Hi Satch,

The game is verrrrrrrry picky about Raven positioning himself directly in front of objects, for the most part. In a few exceptions, 'close' is good enough.

The spear can be easily picked up. ...only 'one' blade swinging? Just wait!

The room with the spears in it is the now famous 'elevator room'. The one with the staff is the 'sin room'. Check out some of the other posts here.

Yvonne

Ok, that's it, I'm about to give up. I cannot get out of the sin room. A couple more trys and that's it. Grrrr. Doesn't seem like much of an adventure. I'm just running around trying to save my ass-teroids. What am I doing wrong?

If you get thoroughly fed up with it, there's a thread in the dreamcatcher forums with a link to a saved game someone has that's just past the sin room. Also, there are some people here who have obtained it from somewhere... just do a bit of poking around

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OK, I have the bull head staff and have made it past the slicer and dicer. I'm in the serpent room and have set the small snakes as directed earlier. But when I go to the front of the big snake and try to open the double doors with the bull head staff, nothing happens. Is this one of those places where you have to be within the exact pixil, or am I doing something wrong?

Thanks for any help.

Satch, Try checking the arrangement of the water and the snake's head. You might have missed a turn of a head. You are to follow the directions of the stand closest to room.
One triangle means the snake's head is towards the door.
2 triangles means it faces the single stair at the back with the water source.

Thanks MaG but that didn't seem to work. According to the last stand before the door, the first pair of small snakes face toward the stairs, the second pair face toward the door, the third pair face the stairs and the snake at the tail face the door. But when I try to use the bull head staff on the doors at the front of the large snake, nothing happens.

Do I have it correct?

Not on the doors but on the green thing in front of the snake. Has a lever like spot. Stand in front of it facing the snake.

Thanks acornia, that did the trick. I got the key and went back to the room with the suspended ladder at the far end and used the key on the slots on either side of the stairs, but nothing seemed to happen.

Am I in the right room? From previous posts, it seems I need more keys. How do you find them?

Thanks

You don't need any more keys for that room. After you use the key on both sides of the stairs, you can now pull the spears right beside the keyholes. Then you'll have access to something you didn't previously have access to.

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OK, now I have access to the wheels to use on the thing at the end of the room. Where do I find the pattern so I know hhow to set the moveable mural?

I looked in the note book, but if the clue is there I didn't see it.

There aren't any clues, really. You have to sort of figure it out with reasoning. or luck.

BUT, I discovered after finding the right combination that there's a way to see the right combo which is unintentional. Stand between the giant wheel and the lever, facing the wheel with your back right up against the lever. Then go into the free-moving camera mode (press the right mouse button). Then move the mouse around so that you are looking up at your character from behind. the clipping issues in the game allow you to see the bottom of that white block of stone on the lever stand, and it has the correct wheel pattern on it. Of course, this isn't the intended way to see the pattern, but there it is.

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Thanks auntieshoque, I got the mural to line up and now I see what everyone was talking about with the elevator. Not sure how I'm going to get to the elevator before it raises, but will keep trying.

Well, apparently there's someone at the adventure company forums who said that what he did was get the combo on the dial right and then turn around and pull the lever. For him the elevator apparently stopped halfway up. He was then able to climb up.

Anyone who has done it here has had to set the dial and then boogie on over to the elevator before it goes up.

The only way I can think of to describe doing it is to know what the combination is, and to prepare yourself about 2 turns of the dial before the combination. Then quickly hit your enter key twice... Raven will quickly do the to turns, but the giant wheel takes a bit longer to do it. During this "bit longer" you have a mere fraction of a second to get your butt moving and get on the elevator. Not easy.

Good luck.

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