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#100973 - 07/03/05 04:31 PM ECHO
SKEETER Offline
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Registered: 08/29/04
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Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Hi Everyone,
I just started Echo and I,m stuck already.
Can someone explain the cave maze to me.Thanks in
advance for any help.

SKEETER!!!!

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#100974 - 07/03/05 04:36 PM Re: ECHO
looney4labs Offline
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Skeeter, I just played that yesterday---did you look at the rock that Klem gave you and the big rock in front of the different cave entrances???
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#100977 - 07/03/05 05:15 PM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
I'll try it L4L.
Thanks for the fast reply.

SKEETER!!!!

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#100979 - 07/03/05 07:11 PM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Sorry L4L I stil don't understand the maze.
I enter the first cave marked brown and then I
get confused. I don't see any big rocks near the
other caves.
what am I missing.

SKEETER!!!!!

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#100980 - 07/03/05 07:16 PM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 12/28/99
Posts: 65242
Skeeter,

At the start - first room with the fire is a flat rock. That flat rock has the maze map. There are no other rocks in the other caves.
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Then you plan the maze colors to go through to reach the starburst pattern.
Collect all torcehs. Light one torch and go through. Count your steps - it takes 8 clicks for the torch to go off. So light the next one on the 7th click. luck

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#100981 - 07/04/05 04:41 AM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Hi Mag,

I enter the first cave marked brown. When I come to the next cave's I see no colors or markings. I get lost very easily. I seem to end up at the same place all the time.Do I go left
or right? How many steps in each cave? I,m at a loss. Please walk me thru it. Thanks.

SKEETER!!!!!!

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#100982 - 07/04/05 06:46 AM Re: ECHO
MaG Offline
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Once you enter an opening - there might or might not be a passage to the next cave.
At the next cave - pan around to see all the openings with the respective colored squares beside them.
I'm not sure if a step by step will work since I won't be able to say pan left or right since that step is not static.

You can do this, Just enter correct opening, be in a passage, exit to the next cave, pan right or left to look for the next correct opening, enter that opening, etc... luck

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#100983 - 07/04/05 03:16 PM Re: ECHO
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Skeeter I did notice that usually it took 2 'steps' to get to the next cave---
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#100984 - 07/04/05 04:34 PM Re: ECHO
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Hi Skeeter--Are you still having trouble with the maze--I went back to a save and replayed it-- Pick up all the torches like MaG said and light 1--then go to the cave entrance with the Brown Square on the Left and the Sun drawing on the Right side

1. You go into the the cave with the brown square --go 2 clicks
2. Now you are in another big room. Pan Right and go in the cave with the Black square by the entrance. Go 2 clicks.
3. Another room. Pan Left--there will be a cave with just the Square outline--not colored in--go 1 click into there--then right click to bring up your inv.--select a torch-and then left click on the torch in the bottom left of your screen to light a new torch--now go 1 more click--
4. Another room. Pan Left and go through the cave entrance with the Brown square next to it. 2 clicks again.
5. These rooms are getting repititive laugh You need to go through the cave entrance with the Black square this time--I did this 2ce--once it was directly ahead and the other time I had to pan to the right just a bit to find it-2 clicks--
6. Here's another room. Go Straight to the cave entrance with the Brown square. 2 clicks
7. Guess what--yep, that's right--a room. Pan right just a bit and there is a cave entrance with the Black square--go 1 click and then you have to relight your torch-then 1 more click
8. Yep, you guessed it--another room---This time go Straight into the cave entrance with the Brown square--2 clicks
9. Almost there--and yet another room. woozy Pan Left and go into the cave with the Red square--click click--and you should be in a room with a totally different puzzle and on your way out--

Be careful that you are not picking a black thinking your are picking a brown and vice versa--

Hope that helps-- wave
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#100987 - 07/05/05 04:51 PM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Thanks L4L for the step by step directions.
I'll give it a try. Usually I don't have this
much trouble.Must be my age. Hope you had a
fun 4th of July. Thanks again.

SKEETER!!!!

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#100988 - 07/05/05 05:40 PM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
I have to tell you L4L, those directions you
gave me were perfect. I walked right thru it.
You kept me from getting frustrated.
Thanks again.

SKEETER!!!!!

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#100990 - 07/06/05 01:01 AM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 10/24/00
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Loc: southeast USA
How do you get Brown - Black - Clear - Brown - Black - Brown - Black - Brown - Red out of comparing Arok's little painted stone with the big flat stone?

The path that seems to be laid out on the stone looks sort of like this

___....|
|.......\...|
|___..\|
.........\
____\


(I hope that ascii picture looks OK in other peoples' browsers).

Starting from the lower left of the big stone and matching it with the brown color on the little stone, I get Brown Clear Brown Brown Black Black Brown Black Red, which doesn't work.

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#100991 - 07/06/05 07:12 AM Re: ECHO
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Nic pic, Jenny.

I based it on the single red square of the stone correleated to be the single starburst on the stone. Then tracked the path on the stone that way. Have fun!

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#100992 - 07/06/05 08:05 AM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 09/17/04
Posts: 193
Loc: Ohio
MaG, Am I the only one having problems with the red stags ? I can't seam to get them lined up right. Can you help me with a save when it is done ?
Maxwell

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#100993 - 07/06/05 08:15 AM Re: ECHO
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Maxwell,

Line them up and then click on the double arrows at top of the ?3rd or second stag on the right frame - see where it stops. Then check that set (where it stops) or single stag to see if it will go further.

Also be sure that all acolors are the same and that the man is also the same color and at the correct position.

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#100994 - 07/06/05 08:35 AM Re: ECHO
maxwell Offline
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Registered: 09/17/04
Posts: 193
Loc: Ohio
Is thr one it stops on wrong or the next one ?

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#100995 - 07/06/05 08:50 AM Re: ECHO
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I think it stops at wrong one. I then change that set or that single deer. - look at the picture in the wt to help you. Note the hooves postion and the head position of the stags.

Also, I think one of the mods has a saved game for the 'end of deer fresco' - if you need it.

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#100996 - 07/06/05 08:52 AM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 12/28/99
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Jenny,

I added a new picture and tilted the other picture -s tone map - so you can see the correleation better. ECHO walkthrough.

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#101006 - 07/06/05 03:14 PM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 12/28/99
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Maxwell,

1. Open your My Computer, Main Hard drive (C), Program Files, The Adventure Company, ECHO, Users folder, Profile 1 folder. This Profile 1 is Arok's picture if your playing the firts one on the left.
2. Check if you have a number saved game #9 in this folder. If so, check the last number saves in that folder.
3. Then download the sent saved game to desktop. Change the number to be the last one from step #2 above.
4. Place that ?changed, sent saved game in open Profile 1 folder.
5. Close all folders. Play the game as usual and load the sent saved game.

luck

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#101007 - 07/06/05 07:36 PM Re: ECHO
SKEETER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Can someone help me with the musical stones
puzzle? When I use the hammer on 4,2,5 and 1
stones from left to right,nothing happens.
Thanks in advance.

SKEETER!!!!!

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#101008 - 07/06/05 07:50 PM Re: ECHO
texaslady Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 06/02/04
Posts: 27907
Loc: Texas
Skeeter, you are way ahead of me in this game. Is there a way that you can reset the puzzle and try again? It looks like the numbers are correct according to the walkthrough but I won't know for sure what to do until I get there.

Sue
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#101009 - 07/06/05 08:33 PM Re: ECHO
MaG Offline
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Skeeter,

Try those numbers when the sign are all gray colored. Then do the 4 2 5 and 1 stones. That should turn them all red.

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#101010 - 07/06/05 08:57 PM Re: ECHO
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Registered: 12/12/03
Posts: 10385
Loc: Québec
Yes MaG and when you it the stones, you must hit them a little bit on their left.

I was sure it was 3241 and the puzzle solve.

Because for the first number that is 4, I was almost on top of the 3.

Hope I make sense.

Chief

wave

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#101011 - 07/06/05 09:05 PM Re: ECHO
MaG Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 12/28/99
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Hi Cheif,

Yes, that cursor has to be at the center of the stones to make it work - which make the hammer be off the stones. wave

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#101012 - 07/07/05 02:36 AM Re: ECHO
SKEETER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Thanks Guys,

I'll give it a try using the mumbers
the chief used. Hope it works. I got to say,
this is a great game. Hope more like this
come out.Thanks again.

SKEETER!!!!!

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#101013 - 07/07/05 04:17 AM Re: ECHO
Jenny100 Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 10/24/00
Posts: 34852
Loc: southeast USA
I think the musical stones puzzle may be random. The solution I got did not use the 5th stone. Skeeter, click each stone and watch to see which symbol lights up the red color. You should find that 4 of the stones light up 4 different symbols, with one of the 5 stones not lighting a symbol. You have to hit the stones in whatever order makes the first symbol light up, then the 2nd symbol, then the 3rd symbol, then the 4th.

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#101014 - 07/07/05 08:05 AM Re: ECHO
maxwell Offline
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Registered: 09/17/04
Posts: 193
Loc: Ohio
Sue & MaG

I got the saves ok, but I tried to use them and I can not get any of them work. Sorry I am so dumb with computers.

Thanks anyway Maxwell

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#101015 - 07/07/05 08:12 AM Re: ECHO
texaslady Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 06/02/04
Posts: 27907
Loc: Texas
Maxwell, let's keep trying to figure this out. Are you seeing the saved game I sent in your saved game folder for Echo?

Sue
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Yesterday is but today's memory, tomorrow is today's dream.
Kahlil Gibran

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#101016 - 07/07/05 08:27 AM Re: ECHO
maxwell Offline
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Registered: 09/17/04
Posts: 193
Loc: Ohio
Sue, yes it is in my profife folder, but when I go to load the game it still show my old save.
Maxwell

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#101017 - 07/07/05 08:31 AM Re: ECHO
texaslady Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 06/02/04
Posts: 27907
Loc: Texas
Okay, did you already have a saved game number 9? If you did, did you remove it? Most games will not acknowledge two with the same numbers.

Sue
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Yesterday is but today's memory, tomorrow is today's dream.
Kahlil Gibran

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#101018 - 07/07/05 09:12 AM Re: ECHO
maxwell Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 09/17/04
Posts: 193
Loc: Ohio
My highies was a four.
and now by playing around I have none LOL
Maxwell

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#101019 - 07/07/05 09:21 AM Re: ECHO
texaslady Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 06/02/04
Posts: 27907
Loc: Texas
Oh no, you have no saved games at all? Are you going to start from scratch or would you like to install a saved game right after the deer puzzle? I assume that we can do that but I could be oh so wrong.

Sue
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Yesterday is but today's memory, tomorrow is today's dream.
Kahlil Gibran

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#101023 - 07/07/05 04:41 PM Re: ECHO
looney4labs Offline
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Registered: 04/05/04
Posts: 41474
Loc: Alabama
Quote:
Originally posted by Jenny100:
I think the musical stones puzzle may be random. The solution I got did not use the 5th stone. Skeeter, click each stone and watch to see which symbol lights up the red color. You should find that 4 of the stones light up 4 different symbols, with one of the 5 stones not lighting a symbol. You have to hit the stones in whatever order makes the first symbol light up, then the 2nd symbol, then the 3rd symbol, then the 4th.
That was the case for me also--the 5th stone did not do anything--I could not 'hit' it, tho I could hit the others--hmmmmm..........Skeeter, did you get past this?
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#101024 - 07/08/05 04:57 AM Re: ECHO
SKEETER Offline
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
I got past the musical stones L4L,and I got all
the way to the White Grotto.Right now I'm ready for the bull shadow painting.Great game.


SKEETER!!!!

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#101025 - 07/08/05 06:33 AM Re: ECHO
SKEETER Offline
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Got past the bull shadow painting and to the
Cavern spirit slider puzzle.I click on the dots
according to the instructions and nothing happens.What am I doing wrong?
SKEETER!!!

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#101032 - 07/08/05 09:36 AM Re: ECHO
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 06/02/04
Posts: 27907
Loc: Texas
Hi Skeeter, I can only echo what L4L just said......you are way ahead of me in the game and I don't have any first hand knowledge of how it works.
If you back away, does the puzzle reset itself?

Sue
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Yesterday is but today's memory, tomorrow is today's dream.
Kahlil Gibran

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#101033 - 07/08/05 10:00 AM Re: ECHO
MaG Offline
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Registered: 12/28/99
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Skeeter,

First change all the colors to black by clicking on the inside of the squares. There's 2 squares that are empty of any lines.
Then click on the red dots to rotate the squares clockwise. Note the lines inside the squares, you might be missing the movement of the squares.

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#101034 - 07/08/05 11:18 AM Re: ECHO
SKEETER Offline
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Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Yes it does Sue. I just got some hints from
Mag and I,m going to try them. Thanks Mag,I'll
give them a try.
SKEETER!!!

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#101035 - 07/08/05 11:49 AM Re: ECHO
SKEETER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Mag,
I tried your directions and I get every square
except the square with his tail and the bottom square with his front hoofs between 7 & 8.
These squares are not highlighted in black
like the other ones. How do I get these squares
to highlight in black? Hope you understand what
I'm talking about. SKEETER!!!

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#101036 - 07/08/05 11:59 AM Re: ECHO
MaG Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 12/28/99
Posts: 65242
Click on the inside of the squares to change the colors.
Are they all in place?

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#101037 - 07/08/05 12:13 PM Re: ECHO
SKEETER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
Yes I clicked on all of the squares and changed
them to black. I clicked on the red dots as per
the walkthrough. Every square is highlighted
in black except the square with the tail and
the square with the front hoofs.The whole outline
is good,but those two squares and not highlighted. I went thru everything 5 or 6 times
and I come up with the same thing.
SKEETER!!!

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#101038 - 07/08/05 12:24 PM Re: ECHO
MaG Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 12/28/99
Posts: 65242
Before you do the puzzle - click the inside of ALL the squares to see if there's hidden pattern there and change all of the patterns to be black.
There will be 2 squares that is empty after all the others are black.
The hooves and the tail were blank before you started the puzzle - so click them to show.

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#101042 - 07/09/05 05:19 AM Re: ECHO
Kaki's Sister Offline
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Registered: 11/21/04
Posts: 16297
Loc: Marlborough USA
I just started playing ECHO and am in the cave with th mountain lion outside the entrance. Has anyone got out of the cave or are we here for the duration of the game?

When do we see the light of day? think
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Gerry

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#101043 - 07/09/05 06:06 AM Re: ECHO
SKEETER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 08/29/04
Posts: 250
Loc: CAPE CORAL, FL.
You'll get out Kaki, you just have to gather a few things first.
Skeeter!!!

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#101044 - 07/09/05 09:39 AM Re: ECHO
MaG Offline
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Sonic Boomer

Registered: 12/28/99
Posts: 65242
Gerry,

Look around on the ground and as Skeeter said - pick up all items that can be picked up. Let there be light!

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#101045 - 07/09/05 04:28 PM Re: ECHO
fearfactory5 Offline
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Registered: 07/09/05
Posts: 25
Loc: Cuyahoga Falls, OH
Quote:
Originally posted by looney4labs:
Hi Skeeter--Are you still having trouble with the maze--I went back to a save and replayed it-- Pick up all the torches like MaG said and light 1--then go to the cave entrance with the Brown Square on the Left and the Sun drawing on the Right side

1. You go into the the cave with the brown square --go 2 clicks
2. Now you are in another big room. Pan Right and go in the cave with the Black square by the entrance. Go 2 clicks.
3. Another room. Pan Left--there will be a cave with just the Square outline--not colored in--go 1 click into there--then right click to bring up your inv.--select a torch-and then left click on the torch in the bottom left of your screen to light a new torch--now go 1 more click--
4. Another room. Pan Left and go through the cave entrance with the Brown square next to it. 2 clicks again.
5. These rooms are getting repititive laugh You need to go through the cave entrance with the Black square this time--I did this 2ce--once it was directly ahead and the other time I had to pan to the right just a bit to find it-2 clicks--
6. Here's another room. Go Straight to the cave entrance with the Brown square. 2 clicks
7. Guess what--yep, that's right--a room. Pan right just a bit and there is a cave entrance with the Black square--go 1 click and then you have to relight your torch-then 1 more click
8. Yep, you guessed it--another room---This time go Straight into the cave entrance with the Brown square--2 clicks
9. Almost there--and yet another room. woozy Pan Left and go into the cave with the Red square--click click--and you should be in a room with a totally different puzzle and on your way out--

Be careful that you are not picking a black thinking your are picking a brown and vice versa--

Hope that helps-- wave

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#101046 - 07/09/05 04:31 PM Re: ECHO
fearfactory5 Offline
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Registered: 07/09/05
Posts: 25
Loc: Cuyahoga Falls, OH
Thanks so much l4l. For color-blind people, taking the "brown" entrance doesn't mean much. I knew how to solve the puzzle but just was unable to complete the execution of it withour your assistance.

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