can anyone tell me why this game won't run please? it installed OK then i found out that it wouldn't run. so i uninstalled it to try again. i did so and i checked the run box when prompted. i inserted disk 2 but the game still wouldn't run! so, what's wrong? robert.

The TAGES copy "protection" is probably incompatible with your version of Windows. I guess you could look for a newer version of TAGES -- or try to find a NoCD for your version of the game.

The original 2 CD version was for Win 98SE, ME, 2000, XP with DirectX 9. Big Fish has a version of the game for Windows XP/Vista/7/8 but indicates DirectX 8, which seems odd.
Can't find anything on Google that couples the Game, Tages, and an OS. There are entries showing problems with Win7 and up.
You can find new Tages versions here
http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm?page=minimum.htm

hi Jenny100, i DON'T want to contribute to piracy with this NOCD or copy protection business, but how will TAGES overcome my running Echo? i don't even know how it works. i suppose i am TOO honest! robert.

The disc version of the game uses TAGES as copy "protection."
The version of TAGES that shipped with the game is not compatible with Windows 7 or 8.
Updating the TAGES to a newer version that IS compatible with Windows 7 and 8 might allow the game to start. Updating TAGES has worked with some other games that used old versions of TAGES.

Using a NoCD is not piracy.
Sometimes using one is the only way to get an old game working on a new version of Windows.

Some games published by Big Fish are "edited" and have puzzles removed.
I don't know if that's the case with Echo.
However if you have the Big Fish version it will not use TAGES.
TAGES was used on the disc version.

OK Jenny100. i stand corrected on NoCD. I always thought using NoCD was piracy but as you explained, i was wrong. back to the subject at hand, how do i get a newer version of TAGES THAT IS compatible with Windows 7. BTW, my disks are not BigFish. robert.

The download link for TAGES that Robert Gault found should be as good as any.
http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm?page=minimum.htm

hi Jenny100, Echo won't run choosing 64 bits TAGES even though my system tells me my system in Control Panel says 64-bits. what am i doing wrong with TAGES? robert.

Did you install the TAGES as an administrator?
If not, that might be why it doesn't work.

The TAGES page says:

That seems to suggest you might need to install the game as administrator too, depending on what they mean by "your software."

If that doesn't help, you can try contacting the TAGES people to see if they have more suggestions.
Click on the "Contact Us" link at
http://www.tagesprotection.com/main.htm?page=minimum.htm

If the 64-bit TAGES update still doesn't allow you to play the game, you might consider trying the NoCD.

The *** Windows 7 and games *** page says

However if there is a problem other than the TAGES, you may have to try different video drivers until you find one that works, which is a pain.

We know there's a problem with old versions of TAGES copy "protection" and Windows 7, so that's the first (and easiest) thing to test.

You said you had a Radeon HD5450 on ***this page***. Is that still the card you're using?

please excuse my ignorance but i own this computer and ONLY i use it. could you call me an administrator? robert.

"Administrator" is the type of account -- as opposed to a "limited user" account. It allows changes that affect the entire system, such as installing TAGES drivers.

When you log into Windows, you're logging into an account. You probably set up your account when you first got your computer (or when you first installed Windows 7).

Often people are told to set up a limited user account for web browsing to help prevent a virus infection. But often you can't install games from a limited user account -- at least you can't install them so they work.

Usually you can right-click a shortcut or exe and chose "Run As Administrator" -- even when you're logged in as a limited user -- and don't have to log in as an administrator. But I've had situations where I actually had to lot out of the limited user account and back in as the administrator.

hi Jenny100, i have been reading up on using NoCD for Echo but they say to replace certain files with those in a file archive. how do i access these archived files? robert.

Did you download the NoCD?
It's probably a .rar file, which is a type of compressed file (aka archive file). You extract the .rar file using 7-zip or some other file archive program.

The Echo NoCD I downloaded had 3 files inside:

reloaded.nfo
SOLC.exe
spr.dll

You only need the SOLC.exe and the spr.dll

Copy those two files into your game folder, overwriting any files by the same name.

If you want to save the original files, either move them out of the game folder or rename them before copying the files from the .rar file into the game folder.

In case you were wondering, spr.dll is the Tages program changed so that reports correctly even though there is no special CD. SOLC.exe , the main program, must have been modified to work with the new spr.dll.

Thanks for the additional info.
I assumed spr.dll was a game file, but apparently not.