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#1024333 - 07/21/15 10:31 PM Question on GOG and Steam
rollei Offline
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Hello!

I'm looking for a reputable online game store and I think GOG and Steam would meet the criteria. I would have just used GOG only for their DRM-free games but I noticed some games are not available on GOG, so I need to use Steam as well.

I would like to be able to download the EXE and BIN files directly, without using a dedicated store Downloader from GOG/Steam. (Not to be confused with a download manager like Accelerator Plus, this has nothing to do with third party download managers) I know some stores forced the customer to use their dedicated downloader with no other option to download.

My question is do I have the ability to download the EXE and BIN files directly from both GOG and Steam? Thank you.

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#1024343 - 07/21/15 11:27 PM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
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welcome to GameBoomers rollei

Steam requires their client to play but they have a few DRM free games as well. It all depends on the game.

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#1024344 - 07/21/15 11:32 PM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
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I don't think there is any way to download a Steam game without using their client.

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#1024345 - 07/21/15 11:35 PM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
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Steam is not a 'game store' like others, who let you download 'EXE and BIN'. There are no BIN and no installators!
It is a platform - Steam installs the game itself, no need to seek 'EXE and BIN'.

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#1024346 - 07/21/15 11:48 PM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
rollei Offline
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Thank you, ALL for your replies.

Oh, I didn't know much about Steam. I need further clarifications:

1. For Steam, did it mean I need to install something (software) from Steam in order for Steam to be able to install the game on my computer?

2. For GOG, am I able to download EXE and BIN files direct?

Thank you!

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#1024352 - 07/22/15 12:16 AM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
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Originally Posted By: rollei
1. For Steam, did it mean I need to install something (software) from Steam in order for Steam to be able to install the game on my computer?

Yes you need the Steam client to download and install.
Once installed, some Steam games allow you to copy the game folder to somewhere else and play from it. That's what they consider "DRM-Free."
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

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2. For GOG, am I able to download EXE and BIN files direct?

Yes.
The GOG Galaxy client is optional.
The automated installer is optional.

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#1024360 - 07/22/15 03:05 AM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: Jenny100]
rollei Offline
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Originally Posted By: rollei
1. For Steam, did it mean I need to install something (software) from Steam in order for Steam to be able to install the game on my computer?

Yes you need the Steam client to download and install.
Once installed, some Steam games allow you to copy the game folder to somewhere else and play from it. That's what they consider "DRM-Free."
http://steam.wikia.com/wiki/List_of_DRM-free_games

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2. For GOG, am I able to download EXE and BIN files direct?

Yes.
The GOG Galaxy client is optional.
The automated installer is optional.


Thank you for the info. GOG looks good. I like it that I can download the EXE and BIN so that if GOG close shop or if they decide to withdraw a game, I still have the softcopy that I can install when I want to play the game again in future. The DRM-free is bonus. The only problem with GOG is they don't have all the adventure games. I was looking for Art of Murder, Lost Horizon and AR-K - The Great Escape at GOG and they don't have it.

I'm new to Steam's business model, I will need to research more before I decide to use them.

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#1024400 - 07/22/15 09:16 AM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
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You can download the EXE and BIN, for all games, from FireFlower Games as well. smile

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#1024506 - 07/22/15 08:44 PM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: Fireflower]
rollei Offline
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Originally Posted By: Fireflower
You can download the EXE and BIN, for all games, from FireFlower Games as well. smile


Thank you. It is great to be able to download EXE and BIN. That's a nice site and all games are DRM-free too! I hope you will add more adventure games to the store, especially the new release ones.

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#1024587 - 07/23/15 11:49 AM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
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Here's a few more sites that offer DRM free & direct downloads.

Adventure Gamers Store
Humble Store
ShinyLoot
GamersGate

Some of them do sell Steam keys, so make sure its a DRM free game, and you'll be alright.

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#1024724 - 07/24/15 04:01 AM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: Jenny100]
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
[quote=rollei]
Quote:
2. For GOG, am I able to download EXE and BIN files direct?

Yes.
The GOG Galaxy client is optional.
The automated installer is optional.


It should be added though that GOG uses their own wrapper to the exe and bin files. There are ways to "unwrap" this after download but there really is no need. And the built in integrity check of the GOG file(s) is a bonus.

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#1024725 - 07/24/15 04:06 AM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: Overmann]
frazap Offline
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Originally Posted By: Overmann
Here's a few more sites that offer DRM free & direct downloads.

Adventure Gamers Store
Humble Store
ShinyLoot
GamersGate

Some of them do sell Steam keys, so make sure its a DRM free game, and you'll be alright.


Gamersgate uses (or at least used the last time I bought a game from them) their own DRM even on "DRM-free" games. You must be connected to the internet to install. There are workarounds, but I think it's a bit misleading of Gamersgate to call some of the games they sell DRM free.


Edited by frazap (07/24/15 04:07 AM)

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#1024793 - 07/24/15 03:54 PM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: frazap]
rollei Offline
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Registered: 07/21/15
Posts: 5
Originally Posted By: Overmann
Here's a few more sites that offer DRM free & direct downloads.

Adventure Gamers Store
Humble Store
ShinyLoot
GamersGate

Some of them do sell Steam keys, so make sure its a DRM free game, and you'll be alright.


Originally Posted By: frazap
Originally Posted By: Jenny100
[quote=rollei]
Quote:
2. For GOG, am I able to download EXE and BIN files direct?

Yes.
The GOG Galaxy client is optional.
The automated installer is optional.


It should be added though that GOG uses their own wrapper to the exe and bin files. There are ways to "unwrap" this after download but there really is no need. And the built in integrity check of the GOG file(s) is a bonus.




Originally Posted By: frazap
Originally Posted By: Overmann
Here's a few more sites that offer DRM free & direct downloads.

Adventure Gamers Store
Humble Store
ShinyLoot
GamersGate

Some of them do sell Steam keys, so make sure its a DRM free game, and you'll be alright.


Gamersgate uses (or at least used the last time I bought a game from them) their own DRM even on "DRM-free" games. You must be connected to the internet to install. There are workarounds, but I think it's a bit misleading of Gamersgate to call some of the games they sell DRM free.


Thank you for the insight on all the games store.

GOG - don't have all the adventure games or at least the ones I'm looking for
Adventure Gamers Store - sounds promising, I visit their site often, didn't know they have a game store, anyone highly recommend this store?
Gamersgate - based on the above, since there are DRM-free choices, it sounds pointless to use them

The rest of the stores are new to me. I buy boxed games previously, switching to download games now. I hope to use one store only, instead of multiple stores. The big concern is the store shutting down and I will lose all my games at that store.

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#1025372 - 07/28/15 07:37 AM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
Fireflower Offline
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Registered: 05/01/14
Posts: 18
Loc: Sweden
Originally Posted By: rollei
Originally Posted By: Fireflower
You can download the EXE and BIN, for all games, from FireFlower Games as well. smile


Thank you. It is great to be able to download EXE and BIN. That's a nice site and all games are DRM-free too! I hope you will add more adventure games to the store, especially the new release ones.



Glad that you like it. We are always looking for new (and old) adventure games to add. Feel free to make suggestions in our forum if there is a game you would like to see on FireFlower.

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#1025388 - 07/28/15 09:27 AM Re: Question on GOG and Steam [Re: rollei]
Jenny100 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/00
Posts: 36118
Loc: southeast USA
Originally Posted By: rollei
Originally Posted By: Overmann
Here's a few more sites that offer DRM free & direct downloads.

Adventure Gamers Store
Humble Store
ShinyLoot
GamersGate

Some of them do sell Steam keys, so make sure its a DRM free game, and you'll be alright.

Another DRM-free site is DotEMU.com
They have a few games that never showed up on GOG, like Vampyre Story and Salammbo.
But they don't have AR-K or the other games you're looking for.

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Adventure Gamers Store - sounds promising, I visit their site often, didn't know they have a game store, anyone highly recommend this store?

They are new, but I've bought games there that GOG didn't have, such as Journey Down and Tormentum, and haven't had any problem with them.

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The rest of the stores are new to me. I buy boxed games previously, switching to download games now. I hope to use one store only, instead of multiple stores. The big concern is the store shutting down and I will lose all my games at that store.

With Steam that isn't the only concern. People have lost their accounts due to Steam's poor security. Whether you can get customer support and get your account back seems to be a matter of luck. For example, this recent thread
http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1024952/Steam
And you can Google for
lost Steam account
to find a lot of horror stories, where some people are treated fairly and others are treated like dirt.

Unfortunately Steam may be the only download choice for the games you're looking for. The Art of Murder and Lost Horizon games had boxed versions at one point. Maybe you could find copies from Amazon or eBay.

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