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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1023212
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More curious fun and games. The same AGENT of some type who appeared over there 6 days ago with a sheriff in tow, came back today with TWO Highway Patrol vans. So weird. Again, he had plain clothes, unmarked SUV and a badge on his belt. He and the 2 Highway patrolmen went into the property, rousted the crazy Meth head gal from the far back barricaded garage area, but no one was arrested and they were only there about 10 minutes. Agent came out without the 'papers' and all left. They all came down the street at the same time with the agent in the SUV motioning the 2 CHP cars to pull over.

I looked up what CHP does, since it's weird that one week this guy was with a Sheriff and then with CHP, and it says that they often handle back-up for federal crimes, dangerous felons, or...just serving of papers for various matters. So so strange, a real mystery.

I got a picture of the SUV today and found after blowing it up, it had GOVERNMENT plates. Deeper mystery. Who is the guy? Why is he here 2 weeks in a row, what or who is he looking for and if it was something to do with the motor home, that was here on his last trip. I think he's looking for a specific person either with a warrant or a summons to appear for some trial? Maybe all these people are in witness protection? haha


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1023222
07/14/15 06:10 PM
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rotfl Sorta.


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1023376
07/15/15 11:25 AM
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Found out last night who the guy was that our local PD had handcuffed against the garage early in the morning a few days back. Seems he is a 'mole' that checks out stuff for Bad Gal. She had said she was sending someone who had 'access' to inside the place to just see who is there, etc. Well, after he got hassled by the cops, he called her back and said, "Guess I picked the wrong time to be over there." Ha. Now I know who he is. Bad Gal is very very closed on WHO her 'contacts' are. Never will give me a full name, hedges on nicknames, but I have put a few together with the Facebook pages of some of the others. This guy I had already 'flagged' as some I'd seen earlier who indeed was who I thought. Interesting. He doesn't live there, never did.

Today's project is to CALL the realtor who has had contact with the Niece and see what she knows or if there is progress. THEN I am going to use up some of my precious minutes on my cell phone (which I never use nor give out the number) to call the Niece myself and ask point blank IF the eviction papers have been served and if not, WHEN? I will again enlighten her on the chaos over here. At this point, I could care less if she gets mad at me or anyone. She's done NOTHING that we can see to stop this insanity. We are all guessing now that it is SHE who is holding up probate. Makes sense.

I'm so tired of just waiting for something to happen and then when something does, not knowing WHAT the heck it is. Geez! Maybe a neighborhood lawsuit against the Niece might get something going? I know several of us who are just plain tired of all of this.

OH and it looks like they figured out a 'solution' to the stopped up septic tank. There is now a TRENCH from the area of the house where the drain pipe comes out and it runs across and all the way back to the fence of the next house. SMELL is horrible. I saw the guy trenching about a foot down with a pick axe and then the neighbor said they covered the trench with brush and weeds. THEN the smell started. Good way to fix the drainage and make it someone else's problem huh? I suspect there is a pit at the end of the trench right next to the driveway to the next house (who is the aged/ill mother of one of my 'detectives'). Not a good thing. We are hoping to get someone out to look at this new development by being creative with the call. I've advised the gal nearest to call our gas and electric company saying she smells gas. THEY will respond immediately, they have to. Either the company or the fire or PD or all of them will be here in 15 minutes or less and then will determine it's not natural gas, but sewage. Then the proper agency can take over, they won't just say 'no' because of the address, etc. Good plan. Something has to be done. When the wind changes, the smell comes over to my house, about 300 feet across the intersection.

I wonder if Donald Trump might want to get involved in this?? rotfl


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1023414
07/15/15 04:03 PM
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What a nightmare Sorta. Maybe you ought to contact the reporter and see if he will do a follow up that might get some attention on the situation.


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1023457
07/15/15 08:35 PM
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Today they cut a 5x5 foot hole directly in the center of the wonderful 1920's wooden sliding garage door! I assume they are making the garage into more living space and wanted a window to take the place of the others they boarded up? This is making no sense at all. A lovely home is being slowly, piece by piece, torn apart. Makes me so angry.

Nothing from the Niece. I called the realtor gal who is trying to work with her and she said she was told, 'I'm just not sure what I want to do right now. I need time to decide". Yup, she's stalling. I guess I will call the Niece myself and see if I can get her to tell me if eviction papers have been served OR even started. I'm thinking nothing is being done and we are all being played by her. Not a good feeling.

No cops yet today. Still plenty of time before nightfall.


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1023461
07/15/15 08:50 PM
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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1024257
07/21/15 11:56 AM
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Time for a short update:

After the big TV story about the house, things calmed down on the 'drug buyers'. They only come after dark now. Makes it a bit more fun but hard to see the cars. Some new 'squatters' are arriving. Not sure who, but 2 more guys, a very short gal who, when she stands full height on the ledge of the huge pick up truck, doesn't even reach the top of the window ledge with her head. So creepy. At first I thought she was a troll. Long hair (more than half her height), baggy clothes and a shape like a pear with toothpick legs. Must be part of the 'family' since one side always has UNCUT hair. Looks the same. Never saw anyone so short though trying to climb into a huge pick up. I thought it was a kid at first. Ha. Maybe it's the drugs. rotfl

As for other things. Very calm except for the constant in and out of cars all night till 4 or 5 am. No police, no other 'official' looking cars or people, nothing heard from the Niece or the wanna be realtor.

BUT after the news story, 3 weeks later, a 'shouting match' started on Facebook (the channel 10 news one). The first volley was directed towards ME! Used MY name and accused me of calling the cops a bunch of times and not having a life, etc. So sensing that they 3 weeks later, had decided to start up a row, decided the best thing to do was to responds, nicely, and explain the TRUTH. I carefully constructed a 'retort' and didn't lie. Never called the cops on THIS group. Did call the cops on Bad Gal in January when she lied about me. Security cameras are for MY protection after a burglary in 1980ish. Don't know anything about THEM personally and all I've heard is rumors (which are rumors and can't be proven), etc. This gal actually said on Facebook for all to see that she was a Heroin addict (reformed now) uhuhh. Spent time in prison, was just trying to live a quiet life, blamed everything on Bad Gal, AND the funniest part, lamented about how the trash around there was LEFT by Bad Gal and NOT ONE of the NEIGHBORS had offered to help clean it up???? Whaaa? WE are supposed to clean up the mess the SQUATTERS made? I laughed so hard. Not to mention that the spelling and grammar was so slaughtered it was painful. They called Bad Gal an 'ex-conduct'. Ha. Also said she was a forger, liar, etc. which we already knew.

Now the best part. I fully believe now that Bad Gal, who started all this looting and squatting and forging documents, fully intended to gain possession of the house. The squatters wrote that they were 'fooled' by her into thinking SHE owned the house and she had paperwork to prove it. My fault I guess for telling them (at my yard sale) that the house was owned by the ESTATE and that I was in contact with and sending letters and pictures to the Executors. I think that scared them into realizing that Bad Gal was indeed lying to them. Not that THEY are squeeky clean themselves, but now it's very clear, that the band of thieves are turning on each other big time. I still can't get a straight answer from Bad Gal when I ask her HOW they managed to kick her out. Mystery there. She's hiding something.

AND the ex-boyfriend who isn't the sharpest tack in the pack, came up with the same conclusion! He knows something. He and I together figured out that Bad Gal is STILL in touch with one of the Squatters and they, together are playing a game with everyone. I think the plan which was and still is, involves getting everyone else OUT and the original 2 friends IN. The one she seems to be feeding info to is the one in the video who never looked up when everyone else was screaming into the camera. Makes me really wonder. AND the friend, seemed to know a LOT about things I had said to Bad Gal and seemed to be accusing me of engineering the 'harassment' of the perfectly honest and upstanding 'family' living there and trying so hard to get their lives together. Oh what a hoot! One of them actually said, in response to someone in the neighborhood's comment about squatters, low-life, etc. that SHE (the squatter) has a home, actually MANY homes. Geez. What next. So of course the confrontation continued with 'so if you have so many homes, why are you living in a dead man's house?'

Oh this is way too much fun. I'm going to try to include the 'link' to the original TV 10 news story and then you have to read all the 'replies'. It's confusing since the page 'condenses' the comments, but if you look at each one from the top down, just click 'more' at the end of a segment, and then 'replies' under each one. You will laugh at the comments from the dumbest people alive. Some of it's true though. Criminals helping or hurting their criminal friends and then telling the world on Facebook, just what they have done. Amazing.

Link: https://www.facebook.com/JoeLittle10News...e=2&theater


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1024266
07/21/15 01:29 PM
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Thank you! I've been checking every day for my Sorta's Neighborhood fix! I've been reading the FB page and it's a hoot!


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1024294
07/21/15 03:13 PM
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Sorry Drac for causing you withdrawals. rotfl You have no idea how I carefully plotted my words for that retort to the 'accusations'. Wrong choice would have had the entire clan on the attack. Now I think, they are leaving me out of the equation except where I said I am in contact with the owner. That had them backing off just a little.

The others who got into a battle of words with the squatters are fun. I know one of them (she's the teen daughter of a neighbor and lives directly across from the action. Never knew she was so involved in the fun. The other gal, who says she's also a former addict and now is a drug counselor was the most verbal. I really wonder where she lives. Must be close enough to see the action, but the 'dialogue' stopped abruptly when the other squatter asked if she lived nearby. Hummmmmm. Maybe they took it to a 'private' conversation. I think I know who it is, but I'm not sure. More detective work to be done. If it's the one I think, she's a 'friend' of Bad Gal who walks by the house every day and can see what's happening.

Things have calmed down now, business as usual. I'm still amazed at how their 'view of the world' is so much different than the rest of us who don't commit crimes or feel that everyone should support them. Very hard to figure out why WE owe them? Maybe it's the long life and family history of drugs and arrests.

I'm sure that both sides (Bad Gal and the current crew) are telling SOME truths. Only job now is determining which side is the most correct. They all lie, have police records for burglary, forgery, using stolen credit cards, they all use/sell drugs, they all steal, and they all have taken control of a house that isn't theirs and what's more, they don't care. Just plain fun to watch.

I'll try not to wait so long for my updates. I was hoping that SOMETHING exciting would happen soon. Maybe today? Tonight? In an alternate universe???? haha


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1024306
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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1024351
07/22/15 12:06 AM
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It was interesting to find out "Bad Gal's" plot. It makes perfect sense. Send in a bunch of her - ahem - associates and have them clean up the place; promise them some money; then pounce on getting the property for a song or less.

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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Draclvr] #1024473
07/22/15 04:31 PM
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Sounds like a plan. Now let's all hope it backfires on her.


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1024588
07/23/15 11:51 AM
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So they have started moving in MORE people. Always the same routine. A new car pulls up, it's met by one of the 'regulars', then the 'new' guy goes into the house, and comes back out in about 15 minutes, only to pick up his 'gear' (backpack, water bottle, jacket) and go into the house alone and never return. Ohhhhh, wait, could they be EATING these unsuspecting people? scared haha

In any case, no major movement, no more police (I keep hoping) and doesn't look like anyone is moving out. No one is yelling on social media now and I have a sneaking suspicion that Bad Gal, who said she was going to her son's wedding in NEW YORK, is still here. I could swear I saw her walking up the street. She could just be sneaking around keeping an eye on things. It's really creepy. I'll have to contact the ex-boyfriend and see if she had TWO sons of marrying age. One got married last year. Could there be another? I didn't remember TWO older sons.

Still no word from the Niece who is 'working diligently' on this mess. I now am not believing her at all. Can't take this long to file an eviction and have papers served. Even if you are in another state, it's soooooo easy by phone and fax. AND she says she has a lawyer for the eviction and the probate. Two lawyers, nothing getting done since November of 2013. Geez.


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07/23/15 12:47 PM
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"They go into the house alone and never return?" Gee, sounds like the Hotel California: "you can check out any time you like but you can never leave." LOL


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07/23/15 02:08 PM
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Yup, judith, I'm beginning to believe sinister things about that house. Guess I should start calling it The Hotel California. Great idea! (insert eerie music here...)


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Sorta, I've been following your story and so glad that I have. I just talked to a co-worker the other day who's having the same problem. Her father was just diagnosed with dementia. When they went to his house to get some things so that he could move in with his daughter, they found several squatters living there! The squatters managed to empty every bank account my co-worker's father had and were taking all his SSDI checks! Apparently, no mortgage payments have been made in several months and the home will be in foreclosure soon. His family has been trying to get the squatters out in order to sell the house. Not an easy task! In the mean time, the squatters just keep racking up more and more bills. It's illegal for the family to shut off the electricity on the squatters! How is that even possible? Anyway, I told my co-worker your story and some of the tactics that you and others have used to get your neighborhood squatters to leave. She's now thinking of contacting the local news media to see if there's an interest there. Maybe not, since there's no drugs involved, just a LOT of alcohol. Hope your situation is resolved soon and also for my co-worker! crazy


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"It's illegal for the family to shut off the electricity on the squatters!"

This is a law that needs to be changed. What a hopeless feeling.


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Oh dear! So sorry for your situation, Sherlock. I KNOW how you feel. I'm not even the property owner or anything but I did know this man for 37 years and hate what's happening. I don't even like his family, who was estranged for over 50 years over some alleged stuff between brothers. What a mess.

As for getting anyone out of a squatted home, I went to all the internet places I could find for information. Here's what I found INCLUDING a number of pages of 'help' from our local police department as to what they can and can't (or won't) do to help.

In our case, the actual OWNER or a designee with all the paperwork in hand (must be official deeds and documents) must APPEAR at the house when the police call them for any actions against the squatters. No neighbors or anyone else will do.

The 'owner' must appear and produce evidence of ownership which the police 'may or may not' choose to honor. Huh? BUT, The police WILL accept any paperwork from the squatters even if they feel it's forged or made up.

ONLY a legal eviction will get the squatter's out of the house AND even with that it's several months of court back and forth if the squatters choose to fight it. AND it's not our local police that enforce the eviction, it's the Sheriff's department for some unknown reason.

You are right in the 'utilities' stuff. Bad Gal tried in vain to get the water off, electricity, cable, etc. She was told on the phone and in person on site that they CANNOT refuse services to anyone who asks. So HOW nice for the squatters who will never pay those bills, and WHY do they get preferential treatment in gaining control of the house?

Something is terribly wrong with our legal system when the Squatters have all the rights and the homeowners and their families have none.

I've cried so many times about things we neighbors have tried to do to keep these crooks and druggies out of there, but no body will help. AND I see now that even if you are LEGALLY in charge, it's not much better.

Praying for some relief for you guys, and for everyone who finds themselves at the mercy of criminals.


The strangest part is how THEY feel entitled! It's like they have done this their entire lives and think nothing of presenting themselves as upstanding citizens for all to see. In the past week, we have had more people move in. I counted 9 people who came out to see someone's NEWLY restored 1930's classic car. They all took turns posing in front of it. What a party! They are up all day from noon till 5 or 6 am the next day, then sleep till noon and start all over. Anger is too light a word for what all of us feel around here.

I still am waiting for the 'owner' Niece of the deceased man to COME in person and handle this mess. She's states away and must have her reasons for allowing US to suffer all the stuff that goes on. I have given up noting all but the most outrageous stuff now. BUT the good thing? One of them (the gal who was so skinny in the TV spot) was out there at 7 am pulling weeds! She's crazy. Gotta keep up the appearance of the house? All this after tearing down sheds, barricading the garage, cutting a haphazard door IN the garage door and leaving it sort of hanging there propped up. NOW they have a boat trailer which came in yesterday with a boat 'mold' on it. Then transferred the trailer to a second truck, took it away, came back without the mold, and then, oh yes, parked the trailer in the street, HANGING out 3 feet past the camper parked there (some other house too stupid to tell) and then putting some 'stuff' around the back of it so all traffic now is slowing down and dodging around it. UNSAFE, totally, but now we get to wonder if it will be there forever, or just temporarily, or if maybe they will get a boat too? After all, these guys have all the money in the world for THREE cable companies services and all the utilities, and food and laundry (all goes out) and several cars (which keep changing), reported by Bad Gal to be stolen and interchanged after a week or two.

It's PAYDAY around here. All the welfare checks are out so I think we will see lots of shopping for food. They go out in teams and bring stuff back. The house is NEVER empty. (If it was, anyone could change the LOCKS and then stand guard and not let them in again, THIS is legal). So sad for all of us who used to have a fairly quiet neighborhood. Now it's scary. We all are just waiting for gunshots, fights, screeching cars going into our fences, etc. Already have had so many police agencies there we lost track. They are always looking for someone but never seem to find them.

Life goes on. We wait. So Sherlock, I'm hoping YOU will have better luck with your problem. At least you can prove some legal connection to the house. It might help. If it were up to me, I'd hire some thugs to go in and scare the [blip] out of all of these people. But it's dangerous and someone might get hurt. Best we can hope for is that they fall asleep with a cigarette and burn the place down.

You might try throwing a smoke bomb in there and waiting till all of them run out, then get several of your family and friends to go inside and just not let them back in. Baseball bats might be the 'dress' of the day. Not suggesting anyone get hurt, but then sometimes, I dream.

Now I've got to find some CHOCOLATE! Full moon and things are happening that you would not believe. I might have to start a whole new story about just those things. Sigh...


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So it's still a full moon. Last night at 9pm-ish there were 4 police cars with lights blinking, in the center lane of our street, near the middle of the block. Cars had to go on either side of them. Was a fun scene. Bad Gal's/Squatter's house is at the corner, BUT no police approached that one. All lights mysteriously went OUT in the Squatter's house while the police were around. The usual for them.

So we watched to see what was going on and they seemed to be VERY interested in a small black sedan parked just West of the Squatter's driveway. Yup. THIS car comes and goes all the time. It always parks right there. They opened all doors and the trunk and looked all around with flashlights. Not sure, but they seemed to have the remote for it. Could be that they actually 'caught' the driver coming in or out of the Squatter's house and stopped him. Might have arrested him. Dunno.

Just seemed strange that they spent about 30 minutes going through that car. The car is still there this morning, so I guess they didn't find anything 'good'. It will be fun to see if the 'owner' walks out of the Squatter's house today as usual. I know who drives it now so I will be watching.

At least there was some action over there. I think the police really do know that things are not what they seem and are watching. I live for the day when they drag everyone out in handcuffs. Sigh.

OH and I got to chuckle at 11:30 pm last night. Was just going to sleep, turned on my security camera in the bedroom to check out the Squatter's house one more time and was happy to see 2 guys at the Fuse Box AGAIN. Seems that they can't figure out that a 1930's house wiring won't accept TWO airconditioners, and all the other stuff they are trying to run. Lights were still on in there, but I bet the breaker for the air conditioner went off...again. They seem to have a regular routine for this. Loads of fun. Actually my 'karma chant' was for a plumbing disaster or a small (not deadly) fire. At least I got the electricity thing. I'll have to chant more vigorously today! rotfl


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1027235
08/09/15 11:32 AM
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I never thought my 'stake-out' would get so boring! For the past week, the dynamics have changed. I see the 3 'regular' girls rarely now. They come and go, but mostly just stay in the house. BUT there is now a major influx of males. They sometimes take the girls out or bring them back from somewhere, but usually they just arrive in several cars (3-4 parking all over) and are now concentrating on demolishing (or improving?) a boat trailer which they towed in 2 weeks ago.

They have removed the 'rails', removed one of the double wheels on each side, done something involving cutting metal all over and then nicely moved the 3 foot high, red metal barrel, which was put there to 'warn' drivers that the trailer is sticking out way into the driving lanes, to the BACK of the huge camper that belongs up the street.

So all day yesterday, my neighbor and I kept saying, "someone is going to run into that barrel and we will have a big accident over there". Well, we were wrong. Nobody ran into it, BUT the police (2 cars) arrived about 10 pm and spotlighted that barrel, then got out and walked all around the camper and that ratty boat trailer. Then they shined their flashlights into the windows of the house all around. I think they enjoy doing that just to hassle the occupants. Then again, maybe they were looking for 'signs of life'. The squatters always turn out all the lights when the police are around.

So after looking at everything for 10 minutes, the police moved the offending barrel to the curb and drove off. Today we will see what the squatters do with the trailer which belongs to them (probably stolen) and the camper which belongs to the guys a block away.

Hopefully, the police took the license plates of both and will be checking them for the owners and even more hopefully, TAG the stupid eyesores for towing. They are a hazard to traffic and worse yet, they are blocking my view of the squatter's driveway! rotfl

Wish there was more to report OH I forgot the 2 NEW dogs over there. That makes 3 now. Dunno if the new ones were just visiting or if they are 'regulars' now.


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1027742
08/12/15 01:47 AM
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Wow this sort of stuff going on in your neighborhood Squatters in Canada here have very few rights. and especially with taken over a house and especially if its tied up in an estate boy are you in big trouble. shame wave Why do they encourage squatting for.

Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1027796
08/12/15 12:18 PM
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Hi Dianne! Well, this all started about 7 years ago when some nutty and sly lady, decided that foreclosed houses (owned by the bank and left empty) were hers for the taking. She found the houses (mostly in a new building area East of me, and re-titled them in HER name. Easy to do. Anyone can type up a Deed of Trust, have it Notarized, and file it with the City for a few bucks. The fact that she was NOT the owner, never would be discovered unless the bank (who could care less) went by the places and checked them out and then did a search at the County offices for a 'new' owner.

She happily did this for a few dozen homes, then put RENTERS into them. She picked those people who were really needing cheap housing (down on their luck) and they faithfully paid HER rent. So she was bringing in mega-bucks a month, the renters were happy and paying all the utilities and everyone was happy. UNTIL...a local news reporter got suspicious of his 'new neighbors' and started asking questions. it all 'hit the fan'.

The 'house thief' lady was caught, charged, had her trial, and is now in prison. BUT here's the answer to your question: since the Renters were considered 'innocent parties' (they had NO knowledge of the scam) the courts felt sorry for them and instead of kicking them out, decided they could STAY in the houses (still bank owned) and would be taking care of empty properties and thus the bank would save money on upkeep AND collect rent besides. What a wonderful deal for the bank!

BUT by doing this, it caused a CHANGE in the Trespass and Squatter's laws. Now the police were told NOT to arrest any of the Squatters even if they didn't have any paperwork proving ownership or a rental agreement. Made sense at the time, BUT it became the law for all cases of Trespass and Squatting!

Now when we call the police, they just stop by and chat with the Squatters and if the 'owner' can't be there bodily in person, WITH the actual DEED to the property and proof that they didn't rent to anyone, the Squatters are allowed to stay and do anything they want, INCLUDING, emptying the house (the one I live near) and selling off EVERYTHING the poor old guy had so they can support their drug habits. Makes me soooooo mad! WE even managed to get the 'owner' (the guy's niece who is handling the estate' on the phone while I was standing there, and it was annoying since the police REFUSED to talk to her, until a 'higher' ranking officer came over and he talked to the niece. SHE demanded they arrest those people and get them out of the house, and HE quoted the existing law, "It's a civil matter, you will have to get a lawyer and legally evict them". Same thing they told me numberous times, but I figured if it was the legal owner (or executor of the estate) surely they would do what she was asking. Not gonna happen. So frustrating for all of us living right next door who have to watch these low-life thieves happily coming and going, selling the guy's stuff ON Craigslist and other public sites and making money off the dead. They live rent free, all are on some sort of public assistance programs, and they seem to do rather well for themselves, especially when the first of the month comes around. Lots of shopping.

The cars they drive, lots of them and are always changing every few weeks, are most likely stolen (per the gal who started all this stuff in the first place). They steal them, change the plates, drive them for a few weeks, then dump them and get others. I've checked, and taken pictures of many cars/trucks and sure enough, some of the plates I've recorded on one car, indeed turn up on another vehicle in a few weeks and the first car never is seen again. They all 'share' the vehicles so you never know who is driving what.

They park up the street, across, in front of everyone's homes, but rarely in front of the actual house except for a few minutes. Makes sense. Don't want to be caught with a stolen car in your driveway. But then again, our police aren't looking for stolen cars anyway. They are so inefficient, it's scary. They only arrest when it's a shooting, stabbing, or some other BIG crime. Domestic violence (even when parties are visibly injured) is just a 'warning'. No arrest made, which is unfortunate because 2 weeks ago, the gal who got beat up by the boyfriend (and my neighbor knows the gal's mom) was stabbed to death by the boyfriend! This is AFTER many police responses to that address for the same type of thing and no arrests were made. So sad!

I'm not sure that it's the guys on patrol that are the problem, more likely it's the 'upper management' who tell them what they can and can't do. I've gotten little 'hints' from some of the guys who told me that I should be talking to the 'big guys' if I want things done. Almost a plea from some of them. Sad sad sad. Especially for the poor gal who is now dead. Oh and yes, they finally arrested the boyfriend.

Anyway, off the soap box for now. Still waiting for the 'owner' to get things handled and get those squatters out of our neighborhood. Unfortunately, it's a long, expensive process and no one will every be prosecuted for anything they have done. They will just move on to another empty house and continue the process.

I've been in contact with the 'owner' Niece of the deceased man, and for awhile she was telling me about her two lawyers and that they would be serving eviction papers 'soon'. But that never happened. This was over 2 months ago and we have yet to see anything 'good' happening with the Squatters. I have stopped contacting the Niece. I was telling her the events and sending pictures and documents she needed but since she isn't responding to my letters anymore, I've given up. Now we just wait and wait and wait. Lots of drama, free entertainment, my own reality show right across the street.


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Re: Sorta's Really Mixed up Neighborhood [Re: Sorta Blonde] #1027825
08/12/15 05:42 PM
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It seems like if the niece does not push this that it is never going to end. woozy


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