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New Monitor ? #1033218
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I just bought a new monitor and it has the HDMI hookup... Now my question ...Is it better to hook it up with the HDMI cable to the computer then going with the conventional hookups?


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Re: New Monitor ? [Re: Darleen03] #1033260
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It doesn't matter.
Both DVI and HDMI work fine.
HDMI doesn't involve screwing the cable in, so it's slightly easier to connect than a DVI cable.

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When I changed from a scart lead to HDMI on my grandsons Playstation 2, the improvement in graphics was amazing! Would this apply if I used an adaptor from the HDMI on my graphics card to the VGA on my monitor? Just wondering and apologies for jumping on your thread, Darleen. wave

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Upsydaisy... I was going to say the same thing ..I always thought the graphic's would be better with HDMI... I know on my TV's they recommend using HDMI..

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Re: New Monitor ? [Re: Darleen03] #1033277
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I'm not sure what a scart lead is, Upsydaisy??? An adapter is only as good as the port on the device. If you have a DVI to VGA adapter to plug into a VGA port, the video quality will be VGA. I'm also not sure what you mean by "conventional hookups," Darlene.

HDMI means high definition multiple input - you can also transmit sound over an HDMI cable where DVI is strictly digital video input. If there is a difference in quality between DVI and HDMI, you probably wouldn't be able to see it... both are fine. The difference between VGA and DVI or HDMI is quite noticible. Of course, you always need to assume the video card or chip you are plugging in to is capable of rendering the video to the level of the DVI or HDMI cable.


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Scart leads are pre HDMI and were/are used with playstations and xbox 360 http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hama-Phono-SCART-Switchable-cable/dp/B00006JCXU. They were constantly working loose or falling out of your TV/Monitor.

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Conventional I meant DVI or VGA... Why would the monitor come with a HDMI hookup ?
On my ROKU and my TV's they always recommend HDMI hookup.. Maybe its for sound? Some monitors I seen has a sound card built into the monitor but my monitor doesn't have that.

I guess the best way is to try all three hookups and see if there is any difference.


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Re: New Monitor ? [Re: Darleen03] #1033318
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Originally Posted By: Darleen03
Conventional I meant DVI or VGA... Why would the monitor come with a HDMI hookup ?

Some monitors also come with a Display port, giving you a choice of DVI, HDMI, and Display port.

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On my ROKU and my TV's they always recommend HDMI hookup.. Maybe its for sound? Some monitors I seen has a sound card built into the monitor but my monitor doesn't have that.

I doubt you have a sound card built into your video card, which is where the HDMI cable on a PC plugs in. You're not likely to get sound out of a cable plugged into a video card. If you wanted to attach your computer to a TV, you'd probably need some sort of mixer between the computer and TV to combine audio and video signals from the computer into one cable between the mixer and TV.

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I guess the best way is to try all three hookups and see if there is any difference.

You might see a difference between DVI and VGA, but you won't see a difference between HDMI and DVI unless you have a bad cable or bad port causing the signal from one of them to deteriorate.

There is certainly a benefit to having more than one input on a monitor if you have two computers you want to attach to it. Why a HDMI and a DVI as opposed to two DVI cables? Who knows? Maybe they just wanted an alternative that would work for someone who had one computer but preferred HDMI.

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Thanks, Upsydaisy! I had never heard of those. I had to run in town earlier and didn't have time to look it up, so I appreciate it!


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Thanks Jenny..
The real reason I am bringing this up is: This will revert back to windows 10 and my video card on alienware.
They are saying to have a hookup for HDMI on your monitor if you have an alienware computer. So basically this is why I really bought the monitor with a HDMI hookup.


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Re: New Monitor ? [Re: Darleen03] #1033355
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That's crazy! I'm not sure what is going on with the Dell/Alienware computers, but requiring people to purchase a new monitor with HDMI is absolutely nuts. I'm using a 5 year old ViewSonic monitor with DVI connections and upgrading to Windows 10 had nothing to do with my monitor or its connections!

Now, one of the computers I work on will need a video card upgrade because the integrated graphics won't support DirectX 12, but to require a new monitor?! No way! I'm shocked!


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Originally Posted By: Darleen03
They are saying to have a hookup for HDMI on your monitor if you have an alienware computer. So basically this is why I really bought the monitor with a HDMI hookup.

Let us know whether that works.
The bug will probably be fixed eventually, but if you want to try Windows 10 now, it would be interesting to see if using a HDMI connection actually solves the problem.

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This is one solve I found on the alien ware support site.. There are many others where they refer to the HDMI port to get windows 10 to load..

"I have solved this issue.

Hi, I had the same issue with my X51 R2 with a GTX 750 in it.

It seems there's a mixup with the Nvidia card and the on-board Intel 4600 graphics.

I had a spare monitor and plugged in the Intel HDMI port and behold, Windows 10 was there with the rest of the setup procedure waiting for me! So Windows 10 had switched to the integrated Intel card even though I had a GTX card.

Maybe just switching your monitor cable to the Intel might be sufficient or usage of a second monitor is preferred.

Anyway, once on the desktop, it was a matter of reassigning displays 1 and 2 correctly, setting number 2 (Nvidia) as the main and only display, effectively disabling number 1 (Intel)."
duh

Drac ... No one said to buy a new monitor I chose to get it... Now there is an issue with Alienware graphic cards and monitors. Read down about the HDMI connect.

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Re: New Monitor ? [Re: Darleen03] #1033583
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Ok ..I hooked everything up ..Now I got a window after installing the DVD ...It says Intel(R) HD Graphics..
I Hooked the monitor up to the computer via the HDMI hookup... I took the plunge and did the windows 10 upgrade... IT Worked... bravo I am now using windows 10 on my Alien ware computer.


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Re: New Monitor ? [Re: Darleen03] #1033597
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If you are connected to the integrated graphics on your motherboard chip (Intel HD Graphics), you are not connected to your video card. Or doesn't this computer have a stand-alone video card?


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You are correct Drac..

I have a video card separate from the onboard card that is what the problem was Windows 10 wasn't recognizing my NVidia card. For some reason people are having this issue and Dell has to get straighten out...
I wonder if I switch the cable to VGA what would happen .. think My concern now is games I have to be hooked to my Nvidia card. Am I correct?
Question : What if I hook up both cables leave the HDMI and hook up VGA to my Video card port ?

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Re: New Monitor ? [Re: Darleen03] #1033647
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It's not clear what you have connected.
Doesn't your Nvidia card have a HDMI connection?

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Question : What if I hook up both cables leave the HDMI and hook up VGA to my Video card port ?

Is this what your computer looks like in back?
http://img1.lesnumeriques.com/test/89/8980/x51-connect1080.jpg

If so, there is no VGA port. There are two DVI ports, a HDMI port, and a Display port. As far as I can tell, both those DVI ports may connect to the Nvidia. Are you sure you're connected to the Intel card?

The picture is from this review, but I'm not sure if that's your model.
http://www.digitalversus.com/desktop/alienware-x51-p16124/test.html

The schematic in this Quick Start guide also indicates that both DVI ports and the HDMI belong to the Nvidia (no Display port on this one).
http://downloads.dell.com/Manuals/all-pr...Guide_en-us.pdf

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Jenny... Yes that is the picture of what my computer looks like in the back... You are correct there are two DVI ports and at the top of the computer is the HDMI port.
On my taskbar it has a Intel(R)HD Graphic's control panel.. where you can change the display options. I also have the NVIDIA GeForce on the taskbar as well.


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Dar,.not sure if this will help but just some more info.

I was showing both Intel and Nvidia on my computer. I went into Bios... not used to doing that... Intel graphics showed as Enabled.. I changed it to disabled... this also removed it from by device manager


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OH...Thanks Winfrey.
I wonder how that happened ..It wasn't there in windows 7.. maybe the HDMI hookup did it. I wonder if there is anyway to switch without going into the Bios..
Guess what I found..
I went to settings and clicked on the NVIDIA and this is what came up :

NVIDIA Display Setting are not available..
You are not currently using a display attached to an NVIDIA GPU !
What the heck is that ? eek

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I do believe it totally depends on where you have your cables connected....that is what enables the video card to work... you could just delete the icon I believe --- or disable it from your device manager... pretty sure a techie will respond

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Originally Posted By: Winfrey
I do believe it totally depends on where you have your cables connected....

On a normal desktop, yes the computer autodetects where a cable is plugged in.
But on a normal desktop there is a discrete video card that is obviously separate from the onboard graphics.

On this particular model computer there's a question about whether the ports all connect to the same place. The DVI ports and HDMI port are in the same area of the computer, not obviously on a separate card. The Nvidia may be in an "Optimus"-style arrangement, piggybacked on the Intel, so the same ports would be used for both Nvidia and Intel graphics.

A proprietary Optimus arrangement may be why only HDMI is working and not DVI.

Darlene, if all you're getting is Intel graphics for the HDMI port, I'm guessing the problem is the Dell graphics drivers which do not enable the Nvidia chip. Watch for a Windows 10 graphics update on the Dell driver site.

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Ok thanks

Now what if I disconnect the HDMI and go back to the hookup for DVI only ? Now that I have windows 10 installed ?


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I'm beginning to wonder about the cursed Optimus-style arrangement. It wouldn't have said Intel if the integrated Intel graphics weren't somehow connected.

I think your last statement, Jenny, might be the key.

Darlene, you can only try it and see what happens.


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I found this thread to further complicate matters
http://en.community.dell.com/owners-club/alienware/f/3746/t/19469464

It is from 2012, so nothing to do with Windows 10, but does have to do with Optimus and the Alienware X51.

According to one poster, who included a picture, there are two HDMI ports. There is a HDMI port near the top of his picture, in the black area, and another one in the silver area near the DVI ports.

However the HDMI port in the black area seems to be missing on the example at
http://img1.lesnumeriques.com/test/89/8980/x51-connect1080.jpg
and the guide at
http://downloads.dell.com/Manuals/all-pr...Guide_en-us.pdf

So apparently there are different versions of this Alienware X51, some with 2 HDMI ports and some with only the HDMI port in the silver area.

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