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Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1052792
01/31/16 11:06 PM
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MaG - it is the dishes that have had me going up and down the stairs for over 3 hrs. I don't mean to be obtuse but the diary does not help. I see a picture, that's it. It doesn't help me.

I actually just read the blank paper. It was so light I just didn't see it before but I had already solved the corridor map by trial and error.

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1052793
01/31/16 11:24 PM
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Okay. Sorry to be the one that's not understanding what you've done and got you to jogging all over. <pant>
Hope I am clear here.
Geez - I remember the pain of this puzzle. I think I got a very bad headache and much frustration.

I presume you correlated the blank paper code with the map also.

So you read the diary.
Based on Graham's diary, only 3 stations are needed to be turn off to sabotage the whole system.

Based on the Bermuda Relay Station, #2 is the one that is receiving signal input from North America.

Since you have destroyed that relay station, also verified by the 'no signal input' on the stand by the stairs in the bulkhead - no adjustment is needed for that dish.

The other 4 parabolic dishes will not receive any transmission if they are all adjusted to receive input from North America via the destroyed Bermuda Triangle relay station.
So, the object of the puzzle is to adjust all the dishes to point at North America (directly or indirectly).

--- Learn which dish points to what continent.
Remember that #2 (Bermuda) points to NA. Remember that #2 setting.
--- Then point them to NA (directly or indirectly).

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Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1052795
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Oye. I don't know if I understand this or not but I'll give it a go.

You did not have me jogging all over. I was doing that before I came and asked for help.

Just curious, where did it say that "#2 is the one that is receiving signal input from North America" or how would I have known that? (I already adjusted all of the dishes so too late for that. The "no signal input" on the stand has jumped to a different button.)

I may have to print this out at work tomorrow to keep in front of me while I try to figure it out. I'm going back in tonight for a bit more but probably won't get anywhere.

Thank you so much for trying to explain this to me. I hope I get it so it is not time wasted for you.

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1052797
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#2: When you were in Bermuda Relay station - there's a panel that shows it's getting signal from NA.
Doesn't Graham's diary (last page) show a drawing of the dishes?
At the AI room - there's a control panel that shows that at lower right there's no signal.


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Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1052803
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I guess I don't remember the panel on the Bermuda platform.

Yes, there is a drawing but it's not really helpful (to me anyway).

Yes, on the panel the original one that said no signal changed to a different one after I had been changing all the numbers up. I was able to set them back to where they originally were to start fresh. I now have two of them showing no signal but truthfully, not because I understand what I'm doing.

That's all for tonight though.

Thank you so much for the help MaG!

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1052819
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1. Familiarize yourself by going down the stairs and make a whole rotation back to Dish 1. Note that each dish room has a stand that is used to rotate the dish.

2. In between, the stairs is a map that shows the continent that a dish is receiving data from. Since we know that #2 dish is for North America, then we know which map shows where that dish is pointing to.
Click to reveal..


3. Verify that #2 dish is pointing to NA. Note down the settings.
Click to reveal..
Take note of the setting - 108 on the #2 stand. Move the dish using the arrows to either right or left extreme. Go to the North America map and see that the highlighted area has moved. Go back to the stand and enter 108 again on the stand.


4. Adjust the other dishes to point to NA.
Click to reveal..
Go to the stand on each dish room and click on the arrows to turn the dish. Turn the dish to extreme right or left - 'as far as it goes'. Look at the map that shows its target and see if it points to North America or to a continent that is adjusted to point to N. America in its relay. 3 dishes are needed to be silenced.

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1052950
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Break out the Champagne. I finally finished the game!

By the way, I have no idea what this means: "or to a continent that is adjusted to point to N. America in its relay".

I just had to rely on luck.

I thank you so much for your help MaG. I am going to give us both a break (and Marian) and play a nice casual game next I think.

woot

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1052954
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hamster bravo I'm impressed that you really worked on this game.

Point to N. America in its relay: For example - #5 dish when adjusted extreme right or left points to Australia & South America (checked in map). Dish #1 points to South America and NA. So the signal is relayed via SA.

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1053030
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Oh. Okay.

Thank you for that explanation. I did better going by the numbers. Dish 2 was 108. I used dish 1 at 0 and dish 3 at 216. Were there other combinations?

And then after all that work, it wasn't even over. There came Susan to replace Christine.

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1053031
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I too am impressed by the fact that you really try to get through these games on your own. It's so tempting now to just run to the walkthrough when stuck in a game.

Congrats on finishing. smile

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1053075
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Thanks Marian and MaG. As I'm sure you both know I do get frustrated with them sometimes and go for the walkthrough just so I can finish the game up. Of course, sometimes I recognize that it is just too hard for you to give hints, especially with a non-linear game because it's hard to know what a person has done or not done. And sometimes, it just depends on my mood or state of mind at the time and then I get mad and blame the game. shame

Re: The Moment of Silence [Re: oldbroad] #1053102
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Just enjoy gaming! smile

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