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#1134398 - 12/07/17 02:37 PM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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I've been out of the game for quite awhile. Decided to maybe get back into it, What a shock I received when reading the notes on the lastest updates. First thing I saw in the update note was a new flashpoint (group play) in which you go after the traitor Theron Shan.

When I quit I had completed Knights of the Fallen Empire but not Knights of the Eternal Throne. Well it turns out of course your character eventually takes the throne. But in order for the game to continue something has to go wrong of course. So what goes wrong? According to what I've just read a traitor appears among your ranks. Which means another companion is going bye bye. So I guess you should not romance Shan. He's a traitor against the Alliance because his goal was always the destruction of the Eternal Throne and doesn't like your taking command of it even though your intention if lightside, is to use it to bring peace. If darkside you just want to be a dictator.



They must have lost a lot of players or they just made two huge US servers (3 European). Because my characters been moved to new servers and as a result about 1/4 have to be renamed if I choose to place those. Which sucks because the names are what I wanted. Anyway since no longer a subscriber I'm limited to how many I can unlock to play again until I resubscribe.


Edited by GuybrushThreepwood (12/08/17 04:12 PM)
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#1134420 - 12/07/17 07:24 PM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Odd new feature. You dont actually have to board your ship to travel. You just bring up the galaxy map and you can travel however you will end up outside your ship and if your quest requires you to talk to someone inside your ship you will have to go there anyway. If you want to go to a planet outside your normal quests this will get you there faster but if doing class quests you may as well return to your ship anyway before traveling.
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#1134431 - 12/07/17 10:28 PM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Always a little disorienting going back. I hope most of the changes are good ones. Enjoy!
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#1134439 - 12/07/17 11:22 PM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Some of the limits for not being a subscriber are annoying.
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#1134481 - 12/08/17 10:39 AM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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I'm sure they are. Any thoughts of resubscribing?
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#1134512 - 12/08/17 04:13 PM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Only if I decided to finish Knights of the Eternal Throne, its only available to subscribers.
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#1134784 - 12/11/17 01:45 PM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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I deleted Korishi, one of the characters that needed to be renamed. He's done with class story and I would have to subscribe to have him do Knights. And since I didn't have a differnet name for him I just deleted him.


They changed smugglers and imperial agents so they no longer take cover to use their best skills. Which is confusing me.


Edited by GuybrushThreepwood (12/11/17 01:46 PM)
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#1134981 - 12/12/17 04:11 PM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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I entered queue for "activity" to get a random group in any flash point. Despite no longer being a subscriber and being less than lever 70 I got put in the Knights of Eternal Throne flashpoint (level 70) at the end of which the identity of the traitor is revealed. The group was made up of mostly under leveled people and although the game buffs those under level 70 we couldn't beat the second boss and everybody else quit. So obviously I have access to the flash point but not the quests that lead up to it. I saw the masked traitor twice.

In fact I went through 3 failed attempt at random flashpoints before finding a group that could finish one. The reason for doing a random FP is there is a weekly quest for that. You enter the queue and have to complete what ever FP it tosses you in.
It was funny I kept getting level 49 armor drops on a lever 46 character. She made it to level 49 doing normal quests.

Because I was formerly a subscriber I still have access to the Knigths of Fallen Empire companions the smuggler and the bounty hunter through devices my characters get in the in game mail which lets me summon them without having access to the actual quests. I also still get the jedi knight from the lightside/darkside contest.




Edited by GuybrushThreepwood (12/12/17 04:12 PM)
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#1135028 - 12/12/17 11:19 PM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Attention citizens of the Republic/Empire, it is not advised to travel to the contested world of Alderaan at this time as there has been an outbreak of Rakghoul Plague. Have a Happy Life Day.
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#1135078 - 12/13/17 11:47 AM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Oh dear, stay away wavegirl
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#1135367 - 12/16/17 01:15 AM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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I previously talked about how staring Knights of the Fallen Empire causes you to lose you companions. The following can return during either Knights of the Fallen Empire or Knights of the Eternal Throne:

Note: they are recrutible by all classes not just their original classes.

Jedi Knight:
T7-01: automatically joins you as part of the KOTFE story
Doc: (possible husband for female knight) Missing in Action (MIA)
Kira Carson: (possible wife for male knight) MIA
Lord Scourge: MIA
Sgt Rusk: recrutible KOTFE

Jedi Consular:
Quzen Fess: recrutible KOTFE
Nadia Grell (possible wife): MIA
Felix Iresso (possible husband): MIA
Zenith: MIA
Tharan Cedrax: MIA

Trooper:
Aric Jorgan: (possible husband): joins as part of KOTFE story (can be killed or banished)
M1-4X: recruitable KOTFE (Republic characters only)
Tanno Vik: (original voice actor deceased) will meet but will not join you (can be killed) (only returning companion who is not actually recrutible)
Yuun: recruitable KOTFE
Elara Dorne: (possible wife) recrutible KOTET (can only get her or Malavi Quinn) apparently if trooper makes dark side choices in KOTE she will reject her husband in KOTET

Smuggler:
Corso Riggs: (possible husband) MIA
Guss Tano: recruitable KOTFE
Risha Drayen: (possible wife): MIA
Bowdaar: recrutible KOTFE
Akaavi Sparr: (possible wife): MIA

Sith Warrior:
Vette:(possible wife): joins as part of KOTFE story
Jaesa Willsam: (possible wife): MIA
Major Pierce: recrutible KOTFE (Empire characters only)
Broonmark: recuribtle KOTFE
Captain Malavi Quinn: (possible husband) recruitble KOTET (can only get him or Elara Dorne) (can be killed)

Sith Inquisitor:
Khem Val: MIA
Talos Drellik: recruitble KOTFE
Xalek: recrutible KOTFE (can be killed)
Andronikos Revel: (possible husband) MIA
Asjara Zavros: (possible wife): MIA

Imperial Agent:
Kalyo Djannis: (possible wife): joins as part of KOTFE store (can be killed/banished)
SCORPIO: joins as part of KOTFE, villain in KOTET
Doctor Eckard Lokin: recruitible KOTFE
Ensign Reina Temple: (possible wife) recrutible KOTET
Vector Hyllus: (possible husband): MIA

Bounth Hunter:
Mako: (possible wife) MIA
Torian Cadara: recrutible KOTFE
Blizz: recrurtible KOTFE
Gault Renaow: joins as part of KOTFE story
Skadge recruitble KOTFE (can be killed)

Ship Droids:
2V-R8: (Empire) recruited KOTFE - both are in alliance base, both become your companions
C2-N2: (Republic) recruited KOTFE - has daily quest

So to sum up:
Jedi Knight possible spouses both missing (they just dont want jedi married)
Jedia Consular possible spouses both missing (they just dont want jedi married)
Trooper both possible spouses return
Smuggler possible spouses both missing
Sith Warrior one of two possible wives returns, possible husband returns
Sith Inquisitor possible spouses both missing
Imperial Agent both possible wives return, possible husband missing
Bounty Hunter: possible wife missing, possible husband returns

Theron Shan, Lana Beniko and Koth Vortena are main characters in KOTFE and KOTET. They are romanceble (by either gender, class companions are restricted to opposite sex). Depending on your light or dark choices Koth may leave the alliance. As previous;y mentioned Theron betrays the Alliance. Apparently Koth will return in KOTET and its possible then to kill him.

Note: some former companions can be killed instead of recruited. At one point in KOTFE one class companion will die during the story, you have control of which of two possibilities, Vette or Torian. Not having played through KOTET I'm note sure if any die during that story.

Note: all class companions (including ones killed) can be summoned through an item at alliance base, but this is just so you can have them available for your use. Plot wise the missing are still missing and the deceased are still dead.

HK51, Treek and other misc companions will also disappear but will return without explanation once you reach alliance base
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#1135507 - Yesterday at 10:57 AM Re: Star Wars: The Old Republic MMO - The Topic Awakens [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Star Forces server:
Sasa Lii completed Jedi Knight chapter 1: 12/14/17

Satele Shan server:
Raiini completed Smuggler chapter 1: 12/14/17
Incendios completed Bounty Hunter chapter 1: 12/16/17

While I was gone they had an event which reward a sith companion which I think was the sith the Dark vs Light event would have given if the Dark had won. Since I was not playing in November I can't get the companion or the mini pet. Not that I need either.

Combine servers was supposed to increase group play. In other words I was right, they didnt have enough players on the original 8 North American servers or 9 European servers, a total of 17, so they reduced them to 2 and 3, a total of 5. And then made an event to celebrate this "improvement". Well could be worse, they could have just shut the gamed down. Someday they probably will.

According to a video on youtube there is another flash point coming in 2018. Apparently the traitor gets away at the end of the previous one. So apparently Knights of the Eternal Throne is not quite finished.

One sight claims that despite the reduction in servers SWTOR is still number 4 in top played MMORPGs. So maybe there is hope for the MIA companions after all.

Bioware's licensing agreement runs through 2023. So theoretically it could run until then. Practically, it depends on how long it makes more money than it costs to operate. For excample: Arenanet continues to run the original Guild Wars, five year after Guild Wars 2, they just don't update it. They did have updates planned but they dropped them with the creation of Guild Wars 2, which never lived up to the hype. In fact GW2 is now free to play (without the expansions).

I will probably resubscribe for a month at some point to do KOTET.



Edited by GuybrushThreepwood (Yesterday at 12:47 PM)
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