Re: Virtual PC
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01/17/16 05:00 PM
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There is a patch ** Here ** that addresses problems on the sub. See if it helps.
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Re: Virtual PC
[Re: petert]
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01/18/16 12:19 PM
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I have downloaded the second Patch 9(litept2A) and put it on a CD, but Virtual PC cannot see the patch. (I have not arranged for VPC to connect to the internet, though I did try, but Windows 98 does not allow me to connect. Not that I am particularly bothered, as the host Windows 7 is OK, and also is protected via antivirus etc.)
So my Cunning Plan to creep litept 2A into Virtual PC via a CD did not work.
Presumably, the Windows 98 system cannot read the data that I downloaded and put on the CD.
There must be an easy way to get the data from the Windows 7 download into the VPC, but I cannot seem to figure it out.
Anyway, many thanks for the advice. I do remember that I had to put the patch into my VirtualPC which I used to run on my XP machine, but the shortcoming that I had with Lighthouse was associated with the lack of a map of the rail system in the volcano on the wall in the steam room. But I never had a problem with the bang/bang system in the submarine. I hope that the 3rd patch could perhaps fix that problem.
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Re: Virtual PC
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01/18/16 07:59 PM
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Progress - of a sort. Your advice about 'Right Alt Enter' worked fine, but I cannot drag and drop into Virtual PC - I always get the 'No Entry' sign when I try.
petert Are you running Virtual PC "2007" ?
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Re: Virtual PC
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01/19/16 03:53 PM
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It is my feeling that the original patch - litept2a - had to put into the game folder. Not sure that I can follow the advice from Jenny100 about 'imgburn' and 'iso'; my knowledge of these things is sketchy at best.
I am running VPG 2007.
petert If you haven't installed the VM Additions, you'll need to in order to support drag and drop.
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Re: Virtual PC
[Re: petert]
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01/20/16 05:39 PM
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I suggest watching a YouTube playthrough to make sure you're doing the puzzle correctly. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vY8wlnymIk&index=11&list=PL241CB5AC2ABB5623If you have version 2.0 of the game, you only need the latest patch, which is from 1997. Most people have version 2.0, and going by the description of the latest patch, version 2.0 already had the submarine problem fixed. However the submarine "puzzle" is fiddly, and if you have an old version 1.x of Lighthouse, and didn't patch before playing, you may have to go back to a save before the submarine chapter.
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Re: Virtual PC
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01/22/16 11:21 AM
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Update from yesterday.
When I look in the 'c' drive, I can see the Lighthouse icon in 'Lightwin', but when I click on it, I am asked what program I wish to use to open it but, unsurprisingly, nothing in the list seems to work.
Then I look at the last icon in Lightwin, which is 'Sierw5', and when I click on that, I can enter the game. But when I do that I find that when I wish to load a game, there is no Hint option displayed. Of course, I do not need a hint, but I am aware that the Litept 2a is supposed to, among other things, add the hint system, but it doesn't seem to be there.
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Re: Virtual PC
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01/24/16 04:32 PM
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When I look in the 'c' drive, I can see the Lighthouse icon in 'Lightwin', but when I click on it, I am asked what program I wish to use to open it but, unsurprisingly, nothing in the list seems to work. It's probably not the actual .exe file. Either that or it has to be launched from another file which configures it to run in Windows properly. Then I look at the last icon in Lightwin, which is 'Sierw5', and when I click on that, I can enter the game. That kind of thing is not unusual for a Sierra game. Don't worry about it. You know which file starts the game. But when I do that I find that when I wish to load a game, there is no Hint option displayed. Of course, I do not need a hint, but I am aware that the Litept 2a is supposed to, among other things, add the hint system, but it doesn't seem to be there. It's probably not a Hint feature like what you're expecting. ***AdventureLantern*** describes it like this The game does include a built-in help system in the main menu. This operates on the basis of the screen at which the player left the game, providing pre-defined hints for that screen. While at times useful (for instance in providing the method to clear the tumblers in the safe puzzle), this help is not sensitive to the state of that screen, and thus the same help will appear for a given screen regardless of the state of any puzzles to which it might refer. So it may not even appear until you play a while before returning to the main menu. I'm not sure if loading an old save will refresh it. I played the 2.0a patched version in Windows 98 on an old computer about 15 years ago, and have a vague recollection that the "Help" rarely appeared and wasn't helpful when it did. So I'd forget about the so-called Hint/Help feature. If the game isn't cooperating in other ways, try Collector's installer, which will probably use DOSBox (DOSBox controls for processor speed, and excess processor speed can cause bugs).
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Re: Virtual PC
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01/24/16 06:07 PM
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You are absolutely right about the Hint file, which was in the chocolate teapot school of utility.
My problem is that the Litept2a file, according to the instructions for the patch, was supposed to add the Hint file and also include a red light at the top of the screen to help in positioning the device to enable capture of the hook. I found that the Hint option never appeared at any time ( not that was of any use during the game), and that the red light never appeared. So there was no way of positioning the probe at the front of the scout submarine - it would simply whang from side to side and top to bottom with no intermediate positions whatsoever. Not a lot of use, and would have been equally useless in the lava pit.
My assumption, therefore, is that if the Hint file did not appear, then it was a fair bet that the red light would not appear either, so it was fairly futile to carry on with the game. As I recall, the hint option appeared early in the game whenever I used to play Lighthouse - in the last century, of course!
I will have a go at Collector's installer - I had never heard of this before.
Thank you, Jenny100.
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Re: Virtual PC
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01/25/16 04:55 PM
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I found that the Hint option never appeared at any time ( not that was of any use during the game), and that the red light never appeared. So there was no way of positioning the probe at the front of the scout submarine - it would simply whang from side to side and top to bottom with no intermediate positions whatsoever. That's really starting to sound like a "too-fast computer" problem. I will have a go at Collector's installer - I had never heard of this before. That should work. At least it will take care of any "too-fast computer" problems.
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