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#105070 - 09/24/04 03:42 PM Re: ALIDA ?
SOLVER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 915
Loc: Elk Grove Il.
Hello one and all...
I have completed the Switch...
I am now in 'ENDING ALIDA'...
I have gone into Arins study and read his letter
to Julia...
From this point the W/T gets very confusing...

...at this point I sure could use a 'butt-kick'
to aim me in the right direction cause sure as
heck the W/T is not doing it...
If someone could give me the next step, I'd be
much obliged...SOLVER

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#105071 - 09/24/04 04:03 PM Re: ALIDA ?
LadyKestrel Offline
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 10/08/03
Posts: 9269
Loc: The Garden State
Solver,
I take it you have solved the conservatory model puzzle and seen Arin's spherin for the correct switch settings. If you have set the switch, peghead, and potentiometers to the settings in the spherins, your next task is to translate the rune code you saw up the switch stairs. Have you found the panel that will help you interpret the code?
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"Criticism, like rain, should be gentle enough to nourish a man's growth without destroying his roots."
-Frank Howard Clark

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#105072 - 09/24/04 04:35 PM Re: ALIDA ?
SOLVER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 915
Loc: Elk Grove Il.
Lady K...
Here's my problem...I downloaded the section on
'ENDING ALIDA'and the photo was illegable...
so according to the W/T they said to print out
the 'Switch Lookout Drawing' from the 'Alida
Diagrams'web page...which I did...but that wasn't
any clearer...
so using a 'saved game' I went back to the
'Switch' to see if I could copy it from the wall.
I could not access the 'Switch Ball'...

so...no...I didn't find the panel!...if you mean
the Rune panel I can' even find Luke's vault...

Should I just surrender...SOLVER

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#105073 - 09/24/04 05:00 PM Re: ALIDA ?
LadyKestrel Offline
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 10/08/03
Posts: 9269
Loc: The Garden State
You can access the switch ball from where you are now, Solver, and will just have to reset it according to the spherin. Go to the water tone machine and push the button until the ball is in the center right position of the triangle (B on the keyboard), then go pull the lever to rotate the switch. You'll then gain access to the stairs. You can either make a screen capture of the drawing or copy it by hand, then reset the switch according to the spherin video.

Luke's vault is the one inside the giant sphere under the neck of the guitar.
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"Criticism, like rain, should be gentle enough to nourish a man's growth without destroying his roots."
-Frank Howard Clark

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#105074 - 09/24/04 09:50 PM Re: ALIDA ?
SOLVER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 915
Loc: Elk Grove Il.
Lady K...

Following your sage advice I went back to the
Switch, reset the triangle, and went up the
stairs and copied the Switch Lookout Drawing...
came down, reset the Switch and found Luke's
vault...went down and raised the Neck Support
Stone Gate...
Now if I could only locate the 'FOOTBRIDGE'...I
could move on to the Rune Panel...
Sure could use a bit more of that advice..SOLVER

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#105075 - 09/24/04 10:09 PM Re: ALIDA ?
Melanie1 Offline
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 01/11/04
Posts: 5041
Loc: Bay Area, CA
Solver,

In the main chamber there are switches on the columns. Have you tried changing the switch & going through the doorways yet?

The Runes panel is by the glass house.

Melanie
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#105076 - 09/25/04 02:10 PM Re: ALIDA ?
SOLVER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 915
Loc: Elk Grove Il.
Melanie and Lady K...

I found the Footbridge..
I did the Rune Panel thing and went back to the
Number Wheels Cabinet and got the code for the
vault doors...
I went up and unlocked Arin's vault...
I then went out to the Strummer and played the
tune...Arin appeared on the video and spoke to
me...he walked away and from that moment nothing
else happened...
I strummed again...nada...I went down and un-
locked the main vault...nothing...
I would very much like to finish this thing...
...can you please help...SOLVER

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#105077 - 09/25/04 02:34 PM Re: ALIDA ?
LadyKestrel Offline
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 10/08/03
Posts: 9269
Loc: The Garden State
Solver,
It sounds like one of your final settings is off. Check the switch first. Many folks have forgotten to pull the lever after setting the water tone machine to the final setting in the spherin. If that doesn't do it, go back to the potentiometers and check the final planet settings. In the peghead, you can tell if you've set the machine heads properly by looking out the peg porthole. If there are no lights, that one is correct. Good luck.
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"Criticism, like rain, should be gentle enough to nourish a man's growth without destroying his roots."
-Frank Howard Clark

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#105080 - 09/26/04 04:29 PM Re: ALIDA ?
SOLVER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 915
Loc: Elk Grove Il.
Dear Lady K...
Thank you for the E-Mail..it was encouraging...

I reset the Switch with the ball in the right
corner of the triangle and pulled the lever...
I redid the entire Peghead and when I finished
there were no lights to be seen thru the port...
I reset the four planet panels in the Potentio-
meters...I even double checked the code for the
vault door locks...

I then went back to the Strummer and when Arin
appeared, not only did he not speak but he looked
at me in disgust...
What do you mean when you say I can access the
Spherins without wandering through the entire
w/t?...once again thanks for your patience...
SOLVER

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#105081 - 09/26/04 05:06 PM Re: ALIDA ?
LadyKestrel Offline
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 10/08/03
Posts: 9269
Loc: The Garden State
I mean that you can go directly to each of the spherins (in the conservatory, at the top of the jack tower, and down the peghead elevator) to make sure you have set everything correctly without replaying each puzzle completely. If you've been going back to saved games, you may have gone back to a place where something was done incorrectly.

This is just a thought, but I have been assuming that you have completed the puzzles that revealed the hidden spherins. You have, haven't you? I know of one person who set the potentiometer planet panels the same as the ones in the cabins instead of using the spherin settings.

Again, before you strum, check again to make sure Arin's vault (up the ladder) and the main vault (by the strummer elevator) is unlocked according to the button code.
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"Criticism, like rain, should be gentle enough to nourish a man's growth without destroying his roots."
-Frank Howard Clark

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#105082 - 09/27/04 01:40 AM Re: ALIDA ?
Melanie1 Offline
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 01/11/04
Posts: 5041
Loc: Bay Area, CA
Solver, the switch & the water tone puzzle are what threw me for a loop. The water tone chamber has to have the picture of the keys, not the stairs showing & then you have to hit the switch again.

Check to see if that's your problem. Don't quit. smile

Melanie
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#105085 - 09/28/04 03:56 PM Re: ALIDA ?
SOLVER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 915
Loc: Elk Grove Il.
To all of you that have completed ALIDA...
I salute you...

I have just gone back to square one and redid the
entire game...I meticulously followed the walk-
through...every puzzle...aiming at every Spherin
only to end up with Arin...black t-shirt and all
telling me he can't open the doors...

I think it's a great game...graphics...and mouse
control...but I've got to move on...thanks again
SOLVER

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#105086 - 09/28/04 04:16 PM Re: ALIDA ?
texaslady Offline
The Mischievous Moderator
Sonic Boomer

Registered: 06/02/04
Posts: 27907
Loc: Texas
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Solver, I've been reading of your struggles with Alida and you get a gold star for not having quit the game. But that isn't Arin wearing the black t-shirt! You are so close, please don't quit, just take a break from the game and then go back. I thought the ending of the game was worth the countless times that I went back to puzzles I thought were solved. My biggest problem was I couldn't seem to remember to pull that silly lever one last time. Sue
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Yesterday is but today's memory, tomorrow is today's dream.
Kahlil Gibran

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#105087 - 09/28/04 04:46 PM Re: ALIDA ?
LadyKestrel Offline
BAAG Specialist

Registered: 10/08/03
Posts: 9269
Loc: The Garden State
Solver,
Setting the three areas correctly makes someone come and open the vault. One of your settings is still off:

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Try this:
Move the water tone machine to its original position (B on the keyboard and white ball in the middle right position of the triangle). Go pull the switch lever to open and close the stairs. (The keyboard etching should be showing.) Go back to the water tone machine and set the keyboard to F (white ball in upper right hand corner). Go back and pull the lever. The switch will rotate so the opening to the stairs is flush with the floor. Walk around the switch to make sure. If you are sure, go enter the button code again on the two vault doors.
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"Criticism, like rain, should be gentle enough to nourish a man's growth without destroying his roots."
-Frank Howard Clark

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#105088 - 09/28/04 09:46 PM Re: ALIDA ?
SOLVER Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 915
Loc: Elk Grove Il.
Lady K...here we go...
1. Repositioned white ball in middle right spot
in the triangle...
2. Pulled the lever to open and close the stairs.
3. Returned to water tone and positioned ball in
upper right corner of the triangle...
4. Went back and pulled the lever again...
5. Entered the code in Arin's door and in the
main vault door...
6. Went up to the Strummer...played the tune...
and the guy in the black shirt told me he can't
open the doors...I am totally befuddled..SOLVER

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