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#105643 - 10/09/04 04:54 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Betty Lou Offline
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Hi Jen, Have not been successful at using your saved games but continued on with replaying the game as my 2nd character and with some difficulty and many hold-ups here and there have succeeded in completing the ages and jumped into the cleft. But before that,while choosing each book to return the Totems to the cave ~my new problem is extremely weird~ = Back at Relto, in the hut, in front of the bookcase and facing it (I can see my character in this view), I choose the book by clicking on the bookshelf/books and used to get a close-up of the books so I can choose one, not I get a close-up but it immediately returns to the other view - that is I can see the character looking at the shelves. Now I thought, "so a minor glitch, I must have accidently hit a key on the keyboard (hotkey?) to alter something, but it does not seem to matter so will continue on". HOWEVER, having jumped into the void, arrived back at the Cleft and gone to Yeesha's home and the projector, NOW when I click on the projector in order to arrange the 4 symbols in the correct places - I am inside my character's head looking out thru her skin! I can see thru it/her but can also see my eyes in their goggles blinking and can see her lips (from inside her) etc. This would be OK but it has done something else too, it has removed my cursor's ability to click on the 4 buttons to change the symbols, nothing happens, so then I use my arrow key to back up out of this "ghostly apparition" and cannot change the symbol buttons from this view either. Does anyone know of one of the hotkeys that would give this view of things and which one I need to revert back too a 'playable' cursor? Very strange.
It is almost as if I am jinxed from playing this game, am so near the end of URU so I can start to D'ni over from the beginning, and this happens. Any suggestions?
Love, Betty Lou frown
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#105644 - 10/09/04 05:06 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Jenny Offline
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Betty Lou, I've never heard of anything like that--it's normal to see a third person view, even when you are playing in first person, when you are doing certain things, but nothing like you are describing.

Why don't you try leaving the game completely, and then starting it up again...
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#105645 - 10/09/04 06:32 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Betty Lou Offline
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lol That's funny! They say "great minds think alike" and you and I had the same thought, but mine came after I laid down and took a nap (right out there in the desert cleft right where I fell and out in the hot sun, lol smile laugh
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#105646 - 10/09/04 06:40 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Jenny Offline
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Every once in a while, the URU game engine does freaky things, Betty Lou--people have reported sinking into the floor and walking through walls... eek
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#105647 - 10/10/04 09:58 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Betty Lou Offline
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Yes, it was an unsettling experience, very weird.
Now, I am having trouble finding all the markers I need. Has anyone got a 'screen shot' of the one "Left wall outside the Pub"? My KI does not even register a signal there at all only inside the Pub......
I need a 'screen shot' of the marker in the "recess to the right after King's hall and before the balcony" I found one UNDER that balcony, but on the balcony my KI registers flashing red and I cannot find it at all......
My KI once only registered a marker "inside the egg room" that is inside the egg-shaped or domed linking room outside the classroom, but I could not find the marker no matter which 'age' I looked in. And I cannot find any markers in either age of the room next to the classroom called "The Egg Room".......help me please?
As it is going now I do not see how I am going to be able to locate 30 markers, I will be lucky to find 27 - and I have walked EVERYWHERE in every Nexus selection.....
Love, Betty Lou
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#105648 - 10/10/04 11:31 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Jenny Offline
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Betty Lou, first of all, I have found that when my KI is flashing red and I click on that red flash, I get another marker dot even if I can't physically see the circle. You might try that to see if it works all the time or if it was just a fluke in my game.

As for where the markers are located, are you using the Buda walkthrough here at GB? Because it doesn't mention a marker outside the pub--there is a number 2 after the information about the marker inside the pub, but that refers to a note at the end of the marker list.

Why don't you print out the list, cross off the ones you already have, and let me know what's left. I'll see if I can give you more help on those...
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#105649 - 10/11/04 08:44 AM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
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Betty Lou, glad that you are "back in the game" wink
Printing the list and checking each marker off is a great suggestion. That is how I did it.
Re-reading your post, I think that you made the same mistake that I did in the Great Zero. The first 5 markers can all be uploaded at one time, then the next 15 all at once. The last 5 have to be uploaded 1 at a time. Find the first one, go back to the Zero, upload it, etc.
luck
Viz
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#105650 - 10/11/04 10:21 AM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Betty Lou Offline
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Regarding which walkthrough and a list of the markers - I am currently trying to follow C Buda's w/t from here at GB. I have printed out his list of 25 markers and a similar list of markers (26) from the other w/t at uruobsession. While the two lists have some descriptions exactly the same, there are some differences in descriptions of other places to look. And of course the obsession w/t has one more listed than CBuda's. By combining the two lists being careful to not add a marker just because the geographical description is different for the same place I have a list of 28 markers.
I have printed out both lists and checked off and numbered sequentially each and every marker I have found so far.
The ones I have an indication is supposed to be 'there' but can't find are:
Recess to the right after King's hall and before balcony, red marker is very strong in a small area on the left of that balcony, but no marker appears to me. I also had an indication ~ once ~ that there was a marker in the linking book room (is this what they are calling the Egg room?, the only time that marker shows up is when I am in the age where the 'other' Egg Room door next to the classroom door will not open for me, in the other 'ages' it does not show up at all.
There are two on the obsession list and on the CBuda list that are not there at all according to my KI indicator and they are on the Tokotah rooftop with the two slits. Also this time around I cannot find one in the Baron's office.
Let's just say that I am having a great deal of difficulty trying to find my last 3 markers I need because they are not showing up where they are supposed to be according to both w/t's.
Viz, I will give it a try clicking on my KI red signal to see if that works. But before I do that = I have registered every marker I have found both in the machines next to all the linking machines, then at the machine at Great Zero, and have been very careful to only do what the walkthru tells me to, step by step. I am now at GZ in the '4 machine' room, have completed my first task with the 1st machine on the left side next to the 'window' and done all the registering I am supposed to and the w/t tells me I to continue by clicking on the tiny blue button on the second machine left side closest to the stairs and then click on the blue button on it, but I have done this and nothing happens, no reaction whatsoever and my KI does not show another light yellow slot ready to accept the next marker, if I should ever find one. So it seems I am once again STUCK. Also I have looked at that 'logo' on that champagne-glass-shape in the 'in-between' area and the logo is not the shell one I am supposed to see, so that is why I was stuck before and could not proceed, something is not activating as it should, or I have missed doing something, I just wish I could figure out what..........
I will let you know if clicking on my KI red flashing signal works for me or not.
Thank you both for 'watching over my shoulder' and helping me along. I sure wish I could get to the end of D'ni and go on to POTS, but don't have much hope of that happening now. frown
Love, Betty Lou
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#105651 - 10/11/04 10:55 AM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
dadguy Offline
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Betty Lou,

I will add to Buda's list from my recollections...

Additional Green or Red Markers:

- There is one on the Bevin Balcony (accessible from the link stone in Garheesen near the KI machine).

- The one outside the Pub is in the wall on your left after you jump over the rubble just before the pub entrance door.

- There is also a marker on the roof of the classroom. You can get it by standing (balancing) on a cone just to the left of the classroom door and jumping up (or you can attempt the dreaded balcony leap).

- Rear of the Library, right next to the cliff.

Also, Buda lists some of the Hood markers from Bevin and some from Kirel. I was able to get all of them from either hood.

Jenny is right, that you should be able to secure the markers even if you can't see them, if the red "radar" is flashing.

Hope that gets you enough to finish.

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#105652 - 10/11/04 11:10 AM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
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Registered: 08/24/04
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OK, Betty Lou. That is exactly what I thought that you were doing. I did the same thing. This is all from memory, but when you load the first Ki marker, that gives you the location of the second. Go find the second marker, then come back and load it into the second machine. This gives you the location of the 3 and so on. The walk through is very vague on this part.
Viz
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#105653 - 10/11/04 02:18 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Jenny Offline
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Betty Lou, I had a terrible time with the first of those four machines too, and it was all because I was skipping a step!

When you are ready to get the marker, put your KI in the machine and push the blue button. That should register the marker dot on your KI. Now go find it (this first one is in the Kadish Art Gallery right in plain sight).

After you collect the marker to your KI, go back to the machine, put your Ki in, AND PUSH THE BLUE BUTTON AGAIN!!!! That's the step I was missing--now you are ready to go to the second machine...
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#105654 - 10/11/04 08:15 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Betty Lou Offline
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Well, I have bad, sad news = I surrender = this game save system is the worst I have ever encountered......and while I have made so many lists of the markers I have found and I am pretty sure of the ones I still need to find my KI has stopped working for me (and I have not shut it off), I still cannot get the 2nd (and 3rd) machines to respond to my attempts to follow the correct instructions to the letter, however the 4th machine is working, even tho I have only registered the marker needed for the 1st machine and not those for 2 and 3, I cannot proceed with the game, something just is not 'clicking'. I may confuse you with this explanation - join my club! I have been very careful to follow the w/t and found the marker I needed for the 1st machine, came back and registered it in the KI machine at Rezeera, approached and clicked on the 2nd machine and it is already up and running (?) do not understand this as I have not even started my quest for the 2nd machine marker, and the 3rd and 4th machines are also running already, but only one slot on my KI indicates I have completed my first quest. Yet, when I check that big orange structure out the window behind the 4 machines, the only thing I see is 'rain' falling on it from above, no big blue ray emanating out from it to anywhere. There also is no 'shell' hologram showing in the in-between courtyard, and at the Tokotah Alley precipice there is no blue ray/shell showing for me to jump into.
I give up. Have deleted all my saves and the game, reinstalled both game discs, and copied Jenny's sav files into the game, but nothing is working. Enough is enough already. I can honestly say there is not even ONE other game that has brought me to tears like this one has and it is simply not worth it to continue with this frustration. See ya around in some other game.
Thanks for all your help and suggestions - giving up like this is not easy for me - I am basically a very stubborn person.
Love, Betty Lou
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#105655 - 10/11/04 08:40 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Jenny Offline
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Betty Lou, I sure wish that I were closer to Sacramento so that I could see your game in person! However, all is not totally lost, because if you have the CD for Path of the Shell installed, you do not have to do To D'ni to begin that one.

Just go into your Relto and look to the right--there should be a bunch of new books on the second shelf, and at least one new on at the far right end of the shelf on the left hand wall. There may be three new one, I don't remember if they came one at a time, as in URU, or all at once...
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#105656 - 10/12/04 09:01 AM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
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Betty Lou, I've been reading your saga with URU, like Jenny said, don't give up. If you want to finish D'ni, do it later when you aren't so frustrated with it.
Go on to POTS and kick some alien crabs, have a nice swim and get lost all over again. I accidentally started POTS before I finished D'ni because I opened a new book and didn't pay attention. It won't mess up your game to D'ni.
Sue
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#105657 - 10/12/04 01:37 PM Re: URU-D'ni (my) journal
Betty Lou Offline
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Well, leave it to me to throw another monkey wrench into the works - I have restored from my trashbin everything Uru/D'ni which I dumped last night in a snit.....and it is all there. Have restarted up the game and chosen one of my characters (both were taken to the end of URU and close to the end of D'ni) and my second bookshelf is empty! Where did all those books go that were there a couple of days ago? At what point did I see all those books? <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" />
Love, Betty Lou
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