'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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03/29/16 06:23 PM
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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03/29/16 08:04 PM
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Now if I could just find a way to figure out why a friend is unable to upgrade to Windows 10, no matter what she or I tries! Computer meets and exceeds requirements; she reserves and gets an acknowledgment; downloaded the forced upgrade through the "create bootable media" website; it won't launch with no error codes. We have tried everything we can think of with no joy. Even Leo Notenboom of Ask Leo gave up!
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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03/29/16 11:29 PM
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downloaded the forced upgrade through the "create bootable media" website; it won't launch with no error codes. What won't launch? The bootable media won't boot? Or do you boot from the media and then Win10 won't install? Or do you install Win10 and then Win10 won't boot? Is she able to go back to the version of Windows she was using before?
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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03/30/16 01:33 AM
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She is running Windows 8.1 and wants to upgrade. At the "create bootable media" site, there is also an option to simply "upgrade now." This is the option that I used for my upgrade. It downloads a small file which you double click which launches the Windows 10 upgrade. I've done it on a couple of other computers too. Her downloaded file will not launch or do anything. Using Team Viewer I've deleted, redownloaded, run CCleaner on the registry, stopped the GWX process (the Windows 10 upgrade icon on the lower right) and tried to run as administrator. Nothing happens - no error, nothing. Her main drive is a 250 GB SSD with 180 GB free.
Suggestions from the Ask Leo forums included making sure IE was not disabled and making sure there hadn't been failed attempts to do the upgrade in the Update History. No joy with either possibility. The computer is clean of any hint of malware.
My friend is 91 years old and lives in California. Although amazingly computer savvy, creating bootable media, changing the boot order in the BIOS etc. would be beyond her capabilities. I was just trying to help her avoid having someone come in to her home to do this upgrade. Honestly, I told her she should just forget it, but she successfully upgraded her laptop and really likes Windows 10 and would like it on her desktop too.
I have waved the white flag of surrender on this one!
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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03/30/16 01:12 PM
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I didn't even think to check out the tool since what she wants is to install. If it also does the opposite, it might be worth a try.
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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03/30/16 10:07 PM
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I have sent her the link along with everything I've done and the point I'm at and she is going to call her computer guy to come to her home. If he decides to try it, I'll let you know. I hesitate to do it and screw up her computer when I'm 2,000 miles away! Her computers are sort of her main contact with the world and I don't want to jeopardize that.
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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03/31/16 11:12 PM
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Yes, I am! I use software called Team Viewer. My son used it all the time when he worked in a computer repair and sales business. If you are using it for private use, it's free. They had a Pro account at the business. It allows me to connect to a computer remotely after the person on the other end provides me with an ID and a password. The password is only good for a few minutes, so we both have to be sitting in front of our computers at the same time. Once we are connected, I open up a chat window so we can communicate.
I will not use this unless the individual trusts me completely as normally it is FORBIDDEN to allow someone else to have access to your computer remotely. I discuss with them exactly what I am doing each step of the way. The person on the other end could disconnect instantly any time they wanted.
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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04/01/16 01:04 AM
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It is great... my mother lives 600 miles away and when she still had a computer, I was able to help her with a lot of things without being there. It was a lifesaver for me as no one up there could help her and it was impossible to get any kind of computer assistance in the home.
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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If you go to https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351you can read what Never10 is doing to change the registry to allow or disallow installation of Windows 10. Only instead of having to read through all that, and differentiate what settings allow vs disallow Windows 10 install, Never10 offers an easy interface. You can read more about Never10 and see screenshots at https://www.grc.com/never10.htmYou can see from the screenshots that it's very clear what Never10 is doing. You can run it to check whether Windows 10 install is enabled or disabled on the computer. There is also a clearly labeled button on the interface to change whether Windows 10 install is enabled or not. The only trick is that you have to run it as an administrator if you want to make changes in the registry.
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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This little tool looks really easy to use. I sent the information on it to her computer guy. I'd rather he be there in front of her computer instead of 2,000 miles away like me!
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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04/01/16 03:58 PM
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It seems like the folks at Gibson have covered all the bases and possibilities!
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Re: 'Never10' Tool Stops Accidental Windows 10 Upgrades
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04/02/16 08:20 PM
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You can use the media you created to do a clean windows 10 install instead of an upgrade. The windows 10 media will work with a valid windows 7 and windows 8 key. If you dont know the key you can use Belarc Advisor to get the key and write it down. You can even include the windows key in the media if you are using a usb key. See website link below. Note this is for windows 8 media but also works for windows 10 media. I have used it many times. Solve Windows 8 Clean Installation Product Key Do Not Match Problem
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