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Oops - windows 10 accidently installed #1068405
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My husband accidently installed the free windows 10 on his laptop. He is not all that adapt with computers (and I am not much help). I wanted to ask
is there a way to uninstall windows 10 and get his windows 7 back on his computer? Thank you.

Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068410
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Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068435
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Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068437
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Thanks I stopped it from happening on my gamer7, but it's mice to be able to remove it, if it happens. I changed my automatic up-dates to that I can say yea or nay. Apparently It was a 5/27 update. Hope that works.

Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068459
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If you still have the GSX Icon, there is a way in there to turn it off, but I wouldn't trust it. Jenny100 has posted a link to Never10 in this thread which is what I would recommend.

http://www.gameboomers.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/1066848/Windows_10_Mandatory?#Post1066848


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Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068471
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That 3035583 update still downloads even after installing the Never10. It pops up every week. I hide it every week both at home and on my computer at work. I don't know why I seem to be the only person at work who has it come on their computer. We're all on the same network. Unless nobody else pays attention to it.

Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068474
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Originally Posted By: oldbroad
That 3035583 update still downloads even after installing the Never10. It pops up every week.

Be sure to download and use the latest version of Never10 if you used an early version from April.
The earliest version did not delete downloaded Windows 10 files.

Never10 won't prevent Windows updates. It won't prevent KB3035583 from showing up in your Windows updates. But it will prevent Windows 10 from actually downloading its files to your hard drive (into a secret hidden folder) and installing once it's got all its horrible install files on your poor computer.

Never10's big advantage over other GWX managers is that it's very small, doesn't require installation, and is easy. It also provides an easy way to undo its changes, should you decide you want Windows 10 after all.

If you want to prevent Windows 10 from installing by manually tweaking your registry yourself, Never10 is based on instructions at
https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3080351
However that looks like a multi-step process, easy to miss a step, and since Never10 does the same thing, I wouldn't recommend the manual process unless you enjoy doing that sort of thing (I don't).

I do remember reading that some people have had KB3035583 reappear in their Windows Update recently, even after they'd hidden it. So Microsoft is definitely trying to get you, and you have to check over Windows updates before installing them.

According to this article at PCWorld, Microsoft has gotten more aggressive about pushing Windows 10 and trying to trick people into installing it.
http://www.pcworld.com/article/3075729/w...r-own-risk.html
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Microsoft stepped on the gas in its quest to drive Windows 7 and 8 users to Windows 10 over the past couple of weeks, rolling the upgrade out as a Recommended update. Watch out! The only behavior that could deny the Windows 10 upgrade before—closing the pop-up by pressing the X in the upper-right corner—now counts as consent for the upgrade, and worse, the upgrade installation can automatically begin even if you take no action whatsoever.

So you click the X to get rid of the pop-up, and the %^$&#$! thing installs instead of going away.
Microsoft doesn't believe that "No" means "No."

From http://www.pcworld.com/article/3073457/w...-upgrading.html
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This morning, the unthinkable happened: My wife, an avowed PC user who long ago swore to never touch an Apple device, started shopping around for a Mac Mini. And it’s all thanks to Windows 10. Or rather, the nasty new way that Microsoft’s tricking Windows 7 and 8 users into automatically updating to Windows 10.

...Last week, Microsoft altered the GWX prompt, as ZDNet covered. On the surface, it’s an improvement; the box clearly states when your PC will be upgraded, and even adds a (still small and easily skippable) line that allows you to reschedule or change the upgrade timing. So far so good!

But here’s the icky part: The redesigned GWX pop-up now treats exiting the window as consent for the Windows 10 upgrade.

Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: Jenny100] #1068477
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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Originally Posted By: oldbroad
That 3035583 update still downloads even after installing the Never10. It pops up every week.

Be sure to download and use the latest version of Never10 if you used an early version from April.
The earliest version did not delete downloaded Windows 10 files.

I just did the Never10 a few days ago. Is there a way to be sure the downloaded Windows 10 files were deleted? (Just curious.)

Originally Posted By: Jenny100
I do remember reading that some people have had KB3035583 reappear in their Windows Update recently, even after they'd hidden it. So Microsoft is definitely trying to get you, and you have to check over Windows updates before installing them.

Yes, I've been doing my best to remember not to hit shut down too fast so I can see if there are downloads waiting to be installed and check them.

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So you click the X to get rid of the pop-up, and the %^$&#$! thing installs instead of going away.
Microsoft doesn't believe that "No" means "No."

This is just wrong, wrong, wrong! I always click the X to close it as I worry I may accidently click OK'ing it. Guess it's the same either way then.

No matter how I try, I cannot get the "quoting" thing right it here.

Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: oldbroad] #1068479
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Originally Posted By: oldbroad
I just did the Never10 a few days ago. Is there a way to be sure the downloaded Windows 10 files were deleted? (Just curious.)

They should be gone if you used Never10.

But if they were still on your computer, the folder would be named something like $Windows.~BT and would be in C:

C:\$Windows.~BT

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2983777...7-or-81-pc.html

The $ in front of the folder name makes it a hidden folder.
You'd have to configure Windows Explorer to display hidden folders in order to see it.
http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/windows-vista/show-hidden-files-and-folders-in-windows-vista/

Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Originally Posted By: oldbroad
So you click the X to get rid of the pop-up, and the %^$&#$! thing installs instead of going away.
Microsoft doesn't believe that "No" means "No."

This is just wrong, wrong, wrong! I always click the X to close it as I worry I may accidently click OK'ing it.

A lot of people do that, and that's how they get infected with Windows 10. Apparently shutting down the window through Task Manager is safer.

It is a good thing you used Never10.

Originally Posted By: oldbroad
No matter how I try, I cannot get the "quoting" thing right it here.

I fixed it for you.

You need [ q u o t e ] without the spaces before what you want to quote, and [ / q u o t e ] after what you want to quote.

If you want the quote to say who you're quoting, you use
[ q u o t e = o l d b r o a d ] without the spaces
instead of
[ q u o t e ] without the spaces.

In both cases you use [ / q u o t e ] after what you quoted.

If you are quoting something that was already quoted, you'd need two [ / q u o t e ] at the end instead of one.

For example...

[ q u o t e = Jenny100 ] [ q u o t e = oldbroad ]That 3035583 update still downloads even after installing the Never10. It pops up every week. [ / q u o t e ]
Be sure to download and use the latest version of Never10 if you used an early version from April.
The earliest version did not delete downloaded Windows 10 files. [ / q u o t e ]

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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Originally Posted By: oldbroad
That 3035583 update still downloads even after installing the Never10. It pops up every week.

Be sure to download and use the latest version of Never10 if you used an early version from April.
The earliest version did not delete downloaded Windows 10 files.

Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068484
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I just did the Never 10 (Thanks Jenny).
I saw that this "C:\$Windows.~BT" is still present.

Maybe to verify oldbroad's question about win10 folders (hidden):
In the never10 frame to enable or disable - there is a line above the enable/disable win10. It states the ~6gigs of win10 files/Xfolder are still present. There is a button right of it that you can click on to remove those installed win10 folders.
When done it will state 0kbs in 0 folder.

Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068516
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Thanks Jenny for all of that info and thank you too MaG. I do not see a file or folder named $Windows.~BT.




Last edited by oldbroad; 05/29/16 12:50 AM.
Re: Oops - windows 10 accidently installed [Re: linda333] #1068571
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