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Window 10 #1068436
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Hi I just caught windows 10 trying to hijack my computer and change it from seven which I want and a gamer. Has any anyone else had this happen?

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Well, sort of. It really really wants me to change, and tries to update it automatically, probably cause I did sign up last year to get first chance at upgrading?

Anyway, after testing it, and not liking it, I changed it back to 7. I did also manually "remove" the update from windows update, so it can't upgrade it without me choosing it anymore.
On my laptop, it still says there are new updates, but it can't actually do it without my consent now.

What I did was open windows update and find where it says 10, and then un-check it I think. I can't see it anymore, but I think I chose to hide it also.

Re: Window 10 [Re: ssgamer] #1068458
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Originally Posted By: ssgamer
Hi I just caught windows 10 trying to hijack my computer and change it from seven which I want and a gamer. Has any anyone else had this happen?


It seems to be happening more often than it isn't.
Download Never10 from here
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm

Direct link is here
https://www.grc.com/files/never10.exe

Never10 was created by security expert Steve Gibson and has been written about on several computer websites such as Paul Thurrott's website, PCWorld, Computer World, etc.

Never10 has no installation. You just download it and run it as an administrator and it will stop Windows 10 from installing. It will also delete the hidden folder on your hard drive where Windows 10 downloaded its installation files -- over 6GB worth!!!

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Thanks for the links! Sound like a better idea than mine. =)

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As the July 29th deadline for getting Windows 10 as a free upgrade gets closer, this is going to be happening more and more often.


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At least it's getting closer to the end. thumbsup

Re: Window 10 [Re: Draclvr] #1068472
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
As the July 29th deadline for getting Windows 10 as a free upgrade gets closer, this is going to be happening more and more often.


Maybe not. At least I hope so. I hid 3035583 originally, but that didn't last, so I unchecked it each time it showed up. It wasn't checked the last time I updated a couple days ago. I hope that continues.

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Thanks so far so good now. Not very happy I wasn't sharp enough to see what was going on with windows 10.

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One of my favorite tech bloggers really likes Windows 10, but chooses to not upgrade his Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 computers because he uses them for his blogs and responses to people who ask for help. His latest newsletter compares the Microsoft push for Windows 10 lately as meeting all the criteria for malware. I must agree.


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Re: Window 10 [Re: ssgamer] #1069279
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
One of my favorite tech bloggers really likes Windows 10, but chooses to not upgrade his Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 computers because he uses them for his blogs and responses to people who ask for help. His latest newsletter compares the Microsoft push for Windows 10 lately as meeting all the criteria for malware. I must agree.


If you mean Paul Thurrott, did you see what he posted today?
https://www.thurrott.com/windows/windows-10/67662/thurrott-daily-june-2

Originally Posted By: PaulThurrott
6/2/2016 3:49:56 PM

Microsoft may have just jumped the shark when it comes to deceptive/forced Windows 10 upgrades

I’ve complained and complained and complained about Upgradegate, Microsoft’s misguided strategy to force Windows 7/8.1 users into upgrading to Windows 10 by deceiving them with socially-engineered dialog boxes. Well. You didn’t think this was possible—I certainly didn’t—but it just got worse. The Register explains:

Originally Posted By: TheRegister
Microsoft’s Windows 10 nagware campaign has entered a new phase, with all options to evade or escape an upgrade finally blocked.

Recently, Microsoft’s policy had been to throw up a dialogue box asking you whether you wanted to install Windows 10.

If you clicked the red “X” to close the box – the tried-and-tested way to make dialogue boxes vanish without agreeing to do anything – Microsoft began taking that as permission for the upgrade to go ahead.

Now Microsoft is changing gears.

It has eliminated the option to re-schedule a chosen upgrade time once you’ve confirmed it while also removing the red “X” close option from the screen.


Yes, really. Ah boy.


Re: Window 10 [Re: ssgamer] #1069280
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Although Paul Thurrott is also one of my favorite tech guys, no, it was Leo Notenboom. Obviously great minds and all that...

https://askleo.com/windows-10-behaves-like-malware/?awt_l=LA1hg&awt_m=JK.Znxu273dfbL

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Now, there it is … the issue is that we’ve been trained over the years, over many years, to when we see a dialog box like this, and we don’t want to act on it, or especially, if we don’t necessarily trust it, we close it. Well, if you click the little “x” in the upper right-hand corner, that does in fact close the dialog box. It closes that pop-up message that says Windows 10 is ready to be installed.

The misleading part is: it takes that as your approval to install Windows 10, and it proceeds with the installation.

In other words, closing the dialog box using the “close window” which 99.99% of all other applications on the planet means, “Don’t do this. Stop. Close. Go away. Cancel” whatever synonym you want, in this case, Microsoft has decided that it means, “Yes, please continue with the installation”.

That’s misleading. And like I said, to me, that’s a step over the line.

Unfortunately, Microsoft is completely unapologetic about this. They apparently don’t care. They apparently, whenever they’re being asked about this, are simply pointing at the wonderful literature about how wonderful Windows 10 is, and everybody should be happy to get it.


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Re: Window 10 [Re: Draclvr] #1069314
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As a Win7 Enterprise user, it seems I can take advantage of THIS version of Never 10.

Is that right ??

[Microsoft is and has always been ruthless and all this behaviour with Win10 just acts as further proof of that !!!!]

Cheers.

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Re: Window 10 [Re: Draclvr] #1069365
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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
One of my favorite tech bloggers really likes Windows 10, but chooses to not upgrade his Windows 7 and Windows 8.1 computers because he uses them for his blogs and responses to people who ask for help. His latest newsletter compares the Microsoft push for Windows 10 lately as meeting all the criteria for malware. I must agree.


This is what my techie husband says, too. He also is concerned that it's spyware. That's why we refuse to upgrade to Windows 10. I'm not too happy that Microsoft might make that option impossible once they refuse to support Windows 7, which I have and like.


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Originally Posted By: Mad
As a Win7 Enterprise user, it seems I can take advantage of THIS version of Never 10.

There is only one version for all Windows 7 and 8/8.1.
Never10 has been updated since its first release to include the ability to delete the hidden folder that Windows 10 files download into. If Microsoft has already downloaded Windows 10 installation files onto your computer, Windows10 will prompt you about whether or not you want to delete the folder.

Get Never10 directly from the author's website at
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm


Re: Window 10 [Re: ssgamer] #1069367
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Melia, you have until 2020 to use Windows 7. At that point, it will be ancient in technical terms sort of like XP. I will give Microsoft kudos for one thing - they provide good support for their operating systems for a very, very long time. An article I read some time ago said Apple only supports operating systems for an average of 3 years.

I understand WHY Microsoft is pushing this Windows 10 upgrade so hard - right now they are providing support for no less than four operating systems plus Server 2008. That can only be a nightmare. But they have gone over the line in their tactics and forcing the upgrade when it is actively not wanted.

The hoo rah about it being spyware is grossly overstated. If you don't want telemotry data to be sent to Microsoft, you can turn down the settings. http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-telemetry-secrets/

Apple, Google, Microsoft... they all send back a certain amount of data. And if you use a smart phone, the amount of data that is tracking you is mind-boggling.


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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
The hoo rah about it being spyware is grossly overstated. If you don't want telemotry data to be sent to Microsoft, you can turn down the settings. http://www.zdnet.com/article/windows-10-telemetry-secrets/

And the settings may revert to default next time Windows 10 updates itself -- which can be any time, but is most likely after major updates (which will be pushed to your computer, like it or not.) Here is an analysis by Mark O'Neill
http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/5-settings-must-check-windows-10-fall-update/

Ed Bott (author of the zdnet article) also says
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It's worth noting that the telemetry data I describe here is only a small part of the routine traffic between a Windows 10 PC and various servers controlled by Microsoft

But is "telemetry" the worst part?
Here's another analysis by Robert Seder
https://blog.robseder.com/2015/08/16/whats-the-real-deal-with-windows-10-and-privacy/

I don't like the look of this...
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“Examples of data we may collect include your name, email address, preferences and interests; location, browsing, search and file history; phone call and SMS data; device configuration and sensor data; voice, text and writing input; and application usage.” –Microsoft Privacy Statement (pre-release versions of Windows)

That was from the pre-release.
Here's the "privacy statement" from the current release...
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“Microsoft collects data to operate effectively and provide you the best experiences with our services. You provide some of this data directly, such as when you create a Microsoft account, submit a search query to Bing, speak a voice command to Cortana, upload a document to OneDrive, or contact us for support. We get some of it by recording how you interact with our services by, for example, using technologies like cookies, and receiving error reports or usage data from software running on your device. We also obtain data from third parties (including other companies).” –Microsoft Privacy Statement

Is it actually the same thing as the pre-release, worded differently?

and
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they have the right to collect just about all data to which they technically have access. They, like Google, use that to profile you and to sell information to advertisers. So, if you OK with that – then yes – Windows 10 is “safe”, especially with the accusation of having a keylogger.

It is one thing where Amazon collects information about your preferences when you visit the Amazon website. On a per-website basis collecting information about your searches can sometimes be helpful -- at least on a per-visit basis.

Windows 10 was never "free." You have to turn in your Windows 7 or 8 OS to get Windows 10, or it comes on a computer you paid for and is included in the price of the computer. However it now seems that Microsoft is making additional money sending your info to advertisers, and I don't consider that acceptible in any paid-for OS.

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I find that my Amazon searches follow me around on the internet for several weeks and I don't particularly like that either. It happens in Firefox and in Edge. Data collection is becoming so ubiquitous... A year or so ago, there was a huge uproar about Spotlight on the Mac OS collection location and other user data - which they shared with Bing, the Microsoft search engine.

Is there anywhere we can hide?


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Originally Posted By: Draclvr
I find that my Amazon searches follow me around on the internet for several weeks and I don't particularly like that either. It happens in Firefox and in Edge. Data collection is becoming so ubiquitous...

Which doesn't mean you shouldn't fight it.
I don't mind Amazon suggesting related products when I'm visiting Amazon, but I certainly don't want to see suggestions for the same products on other websites.

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Verizon, the largest US wireless carrier by subscribers, was slapped with a $1.35 million fine by the US Federal Communications Commission yesterday (March 7) for its use of “supercookies” that track users’ web browsing activity without their knowledge.

$1.35 million is a slap on the wrist for a company like Verizon.
The people responsible should have been thrown in jail for doing that.
Of course the $1.35 million was actually a "settlement" and the victims received none of that money.
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/FCC-Settles-With-Verizon-Over-its-Stealth-Super-Cookies-136446

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/fcc-verizon-supercookie-loophole
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Perhaps more worrisome is that it would still be kosher for companies to charge extra for the “luxury” of not spying on customers’ internet activity. AT&T's gigabit fiber-optic network, for example, currently charges customers $29 per month more if they don’t want the company to scrutinize their web histories and search engine queries. The proposal also wouldn't cover the content of websites, meaning data from any non-HTTPS encrypted site a customer visits is still up for grabs.


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I listened to a really good hour long piece on NPR about a year ago on this issue and how nearly impossible it is for us to fight it. Even if you use things like "Do Not Track Me," it is still up to a company to comply with your desire to not be tracked by them.

Very depressing.


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Originally Posted By: Jenny100
Originally Posted By: Mad
As a Win7 Enterprise user, it seems I can take advantage of THIS version of Never 10.

There is only one version for all Windows 7 and 8/8.1.
Never10 has been updated since its first release to include the ability to delete the hidden folder that Windows 10 files download into. If Microsoft has already downloaded Windows 10 installation files onto your computer, Windows10 will prompt you about whether or not you want to delete the folder.

Get Never10 directly from the author's website at
https://www.grc.com/never10.htm



I forgot to come and say "thank you". Sorry, Jenny100 !! wave


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You're welcome, Mad.

I'm very glad for Never10 myself.

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