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#1073411 - 07/07/16 02:35 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
UruKat Offline
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Well, I'm still not completely finished with Book 5, but, without giving any spoilers, I'm wondering what others think of it so far. It seems to be tying up all the loose ends and explaining a lot.
I'm not complaining, but Book 5 seems much more like a movie instead of a game. Not a lot of "gaming" to do, just mostly watching cut scenes, but still very good overall.
I'm not sure how much more I have left to play. Just got to the last Interlude and decided to wait and finish it another day.
Has anyone finished it yet? Haven't really heard any reviews or opinions yet. Just curious.....
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#1073550 - 07/09/16 01:03 AM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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Well, I got stuck a couple of times, but then I'm terrible at finding hotspots. lol (That's why I always use a hotspot revealer whenever it's offered in an adventure game. grin) Otherwise, the puzzles were pretty easy, yes, but they weren't that challenging throughout the game anyway. I do think the puzzles were a lot better than they were in the original Dreamfall. Of course, they're not on the level of the original TLJ either, but then, I wasn't expecting them to be. I still think the bot puzzle in Book 3 was the best in the game.

I didn't feel it was more like a movie than a game, but then I play a lot of TellTale games as well, and I would much more readily apply that term to their games. I don't say this negatively, as I love TellTale's games and think there is room for the more movie-like games. Though I wouldn't want every game to be like this. I explored a lot in Chapters, too, though and checked out all the details, so this may have given me a false/different impression of things.

Personally for me, story is where Chapters has shone since the beginning, as well as exploration initially, though that lessened in later books. I still explored as much as I could in every book which made an already long game even longer. As far as the story/exploration elements go, I count it as one of the best gaming experiences I've had when taken as a whole. The amount of lore and detail in the game is amazing, and I don't know when or if there will be another game with this much detail again. (Maybe the next Lost/Last Crown game, whenever it comes out will come close . . . smile)

My biggest complaint is the cuts they made in Book 1, as I thought it was much better before. Luckily, I saved some older versions on a USB stick, so whenever I go back to replay the game, I will play the "correct" version of Book 1. grin
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#1073575 - 07/09/16 09:57 AM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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I agree with you Venus......the amount of lore and detail is amazing. Such an incredible and complex storyline. I doubt there will ever be a game quite like this one again. I'm sad it's over, but I am glad that they tied things up in the end and don't leave us hanging, especially after devoting so many hours to this game.
I haven't gone back to replay Book 1 yet, so I'm not aware of the cuts.
I need to figure out how to put the whole game on a USB stick so I can one day play the entire game from beginning to end again.
Thanks for sharing your impressions of it. It was quite an EPIC game!!
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#1073613 - 07/09/16 02:42 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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Well I may be (usually am) dense but I didn't get my questions answered.

They are:
Click to reveal..
I thought that the old lady at the beginning of TLJ and the end of Dreamfall Chapters was April Ryan having somehow gone to an alternate univrse after her supposed death (because an older Crow was there with her) and then April Ryan comes through a portal. So they still didn't answer who the old lady is.
Who was Saga? Is she the old lady at the beginning of TLJ and ending of Chapters? What happened to Saga's mother and father?


I enjoyed the series immensely but am still confused.
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#1073633 - 07/09/16 06:52 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: oldman]
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Good questions, Oldman. I haven't completely finished the game yet, so I still don't know the answers to your questions. Maybe when I do, I might be able to figure it out.....especially the Saga question. Still wondering about that one. Hoping it would be explained at the end.
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#1073647 - 07/09/16 11:38 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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Oldman,

Click to reveal..

Of course Saga is the old lady at the beginning of TLJ and ending of Chapters! That is shown perfectly clear.
As for her parents - they were lost somewhere in their travels, never to return to the house between the worlds.

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#1073670 - 07/10/16 09:50 AM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
venus Offline
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Oldman, just to expand a bit of what Iurli said smile :

Click to reveal..
Saga is April Ryan reborn. She becomes Lady Alvane after being "adopted" by Kian. (Which struck me as a bit amusing since they are about the same age. smile) It seems as though she remembers a lot of her life as April Ryan but doesn't quite remember that she was April Ryan. Crow was also reborn as well, and it looks as though Saga was able to orchestrate that somehow. If you notice, in that scene where she's with Kian and Likho at the end, Crow is a baby bird there.

Saga's mother got lost in her travels when Saga was just a baby. It sounds as though her father went searching for Etta (Saga's mother) once Saga was an adult, and they were able to say goodbye to each other. We don't know if he ever found her, as this is not something Saga herself knows.


UruKat, I know, I don't know if we'll ever see a game quite like this one again. frown Unless Ragnar decides to make another adventure game at some point, which I hope he does. As for a USB stick, just make sure you get one with plenty of space. (The one I'm using has over 60 GB, so I was able to include several games plus all my pictures and still have plenty of space left over. smile) Then just make sure you transfer all the files from your games. If you're using the GOG downloader, you should have a folder labeled GOG downloads. If you're just downloading them manually, they're probably just in your downloads somewhere. Hope this helps. You can always post in glitches for further assistance. smile

As a side note, I really enjoyed Saga's character. I even named my new cat after her. grin
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#1073672 - 07/10/16 10:57 AM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: venus]
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Thanks Venus for clearing that part up about Saga. It was what I suspected all along. Such a great story line and how it was all tied together at the end is so amazing.
Also....thank you for the advice on transferring games to a USB stick. I plan on doing that so I can one day go back and play from beginning to end one more time. I think that it will all make more sense playing it a second time, now that I know the whole story.
Now I'm SO looking forward to the next installment of Syberia to see what Kate is up to! TookToot! wave
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#1073693 - 07/10/16 04:11 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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This is one of the best games I've ever played. I still haven't played Book 5 because I'm replaying the whole thing from the beginning to refresh my memory.

Life UruKat, I'm also looking forward to playing Syberia 3 to see what Kate Walker is up to.
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#1073790 - 07/11/16 01:16 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: Thorsgoats]
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Well, I've not yet found time to download this (from GOG) as I need to get the whole game - not having played any of it so far. But I'm hoping to get to it over the next day or so.

So, a question ....
Is Dreamfall Chapters a completely "stand alone" game ??

[ Whilst I've played The Longest Journey more than once, I never completed Dreamfall. I really disliked certain aspects of it frown ]
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#1073810 - 07/11/16 07:37 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
venus Offline
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You're welcome, UruKat. I hope you are able to get it saved to a USB stick. I agree, it tied together beautifully, and the entire series tells my favorite story/stories in adventure games. (The Gabriel Knight series is a close second. smile) Even though he says it's unlikely, I do hope Ragnar makes The Longest Journey Home someday, or at the very least, another adventure game. He's my favorite writer in gaming, but games that are too focused on action are not my thing. smile

Mad, Chapters continues where Dreamfall left off. What was it about Dreamfall that bothered you? Was it the action sequences? If so, there are none in Chapters to worry about. There are two (brief) annoying stealth sequences in different books, but that's it. Most of the game is just pure adventure gameplay. You may want to watch a YouTube playthrough of Dreamfall if you want the back story. You can go into Chapters without playing it, but there are a lot of references you won't understand if you do it that way.

@UruKat and Thorsgoats - Yes, Syberia 3 should be great. smile
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#1073875 - 07/12/16 01:00 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: venus]
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Yes, venus. I intensely disliked those action sequences in Dreamfall and am pleased to hear there aren't any in Chapters !! yes

I can get quite a detailed "back story" of Dreamfall from WikipediA so I doubt I'll bother to watch the game on YouTube - although thanks for the suggestion.
I'm sure I'll manage OK grin
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#1073962 - 07/13/16 09:20 AM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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Mad, I don't blame you regarding the action scenes in Dreamfall. I just pushed through them anyway since I wanted to play the game so badly. lol Now, since I have them memorized, I have no problems at all, and it's one of my favorite games in spite of having so many elements I dislike. Go figure. lol That said, I'm certainly glad they decided to do away with them in Chapters. yes

Wikapedia works also, great idea. thumbsup Just be careful not to spoil yourself with the added Chapters info. grin
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#1074053 - 07/13/16 10:56 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: venus]
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Oh, I'll make sure not to "spoil" myself !! laugh
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#1074328 - 07/15/16 06:56 PM Re: Dreamfall Final Chapter Release Date [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
JoAJ Offline
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I shouldn't really have been reading all these posts as I've not quite finished Chapters! However, I just couldn't resist as I really was getting so frustrated wondering about one of the same questions Oldman asked. Of course I should have just waited until the very end and found out for myself, not sure exactly where I left it last night but think it might be just before the Epilogue.

Must say I've loved the whole game and replayed the original Dreamfall while waiting for Book 5 to be released. I thought I hated the fight sequences originally but for some reason had no problem with them at all this time and loved every moment of playing that again. Now maybe I'll replay TLJ (although I've played that at least 3 or 4 times), then replay Chapters right trough from the beginning....maybe.....

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