Hi NDLVR......changed hidden files viewing..name got me appdata..that got me locallow but local law got me two items
From DocToPDF_65....and...Microsoft. Any comments on this...thanks Chuck...

Chuck,

While waiting for NDLVR, check the other 2 folders inside AppData: local and roaming. See if there is a Phoenix Online Studios in there.
Also please check My Documents folder.

Hi MaG....no deal...tried all..no Phoenix..thanks, Chuck

Where did you buy the game from?
Where you buy it may affect where the save folder is.
If you bought from Steam, the save folder may not even be on your hard drive.

Hi Jenny...checked...bought from Amazon...thanks, Chuck

Chuck, I found a post MaG had replied to when someone asked about saved games locations, and it may help you.
C:\Users\YourUserName\Saved Games

Since you'd said your username is Chuck, try this:
C:\Users\Chuck\Saved Games

Also, a few other folders to look at are:
C:\Program Files
C:\Program Files (x86)
C:\Program Data

Thanks NDLVR.

Chuck.

Hi NDLVR & MaG....sorry, did all of these before. Have played so many games that I looked there first. Time to drop this game and see if can play 2 & 3..thanks very much for your help in this lost cause..chuck

Chuck, try looking here for the saved games:

C:\Users\User Name\AppData\LocalLow\Phoenix Online Studios\Cognition

Seems like not many Gameboomers bought the Amazon version.
Assuming none of the suggested search locations work, you can try doing a search for the word cognition

The Windows search often excludes "protected" areas, so if you use that, make sure it is searching your entire computer.

One thing you can do is try a search from the command line.
First you need a command line with administrative access.
If you use a regular command window instead of a command window with administrative privilege, it won't have the rights to search your entire computer.

One way to do this on Windows 7 is to do a search for the command window using the three-letter word for it:

cmd

using the Start Search.
When it finds cmd.exe, right-click cmd.exe and choose to "Run as Administrator" from the context menu. You may have to enter a password for an administrative account.

That should give you a command line with Administrative privilege.

Enter the command
cd \
That should get you to your root folder (probably C:\ )
Then enter the command
dir cognition*.* /s
That should search all folders and subfolders for the file or folder name cognition.
The " /s" searches subfolders. Make sure to leave the space between what you're searching for and the /s or it might not work.
The .* makes sure to include file names and all extensions.
The *.* will find file names like cognition1.sav, cognition2.sav, etc. if they exist.

This will also work in Windows 8 and 10, though the procedure for opening an administrative command window may vary.

Hi Jenny 100...thanks..looks good..have ran off on Printer and will try when time..Chuck

Thanks Jenny!
Chuck.

Maybe you missed my post above Jenny's, Chuck - it's also worth a try looking where I suggested. I googled and someone had found the saved games there for one of the Cognition episodes. I don't know if they had purchased the game from Amazon, though.

Hi Marian...yes I missed it..looks good and will try tomorrow..let know..thanks..chuck

I have the GOG version and mine is like Marian suggested except for the final folder:

C:\Users\User Name\AppData\LocalLow\Phoenix Online Studios\Cognition _ Episode 1

Also, the search that Jenny suggested would not find my saved games, as they do not contain "cognition".

I have 3 files in that folder:

001_01 Start.png
001_01 Start.sav
AutoSave.sav

01 Start is the name I gave to my manual save.

If you can find the save folder, you should be able to find the saves. Of course the saves won't be called "cognition" but a search for the word "save*.*" would bring up results for every other game you have that has saves with the word "save" in the title. Searching only for cognition*.* will narrow the results -- you'll probably get the game install location, but hopefully little else other than the save game location.

The search for cognition*.* should find any file or folder with the word "cognition" in it. If you don't use the stars, you'll miss anything like Cognition_Episode that is something other than simply "cognition." As long as you are doing the search from the root folder (C:\ ), are using a command window with administrative privilege, and use the /s switch to search subfolders, the search for "cognition" should find "cognition_episode".

Marita gave explicit instructions on how to find
C:\Users\YOU\AppData\LocalLow\Phoenix Online Studios\Cognition _ Episode 1:
earlier in this thread.


Chuck was unable to find the folder using Marita's instructions. That suggests the folder is somewhere else, or is called something else, or is in a subfolder called something else.

I think we can assume Chuck knows to replace the "YOU" with his username, and he indicated that he found the AppData folder.

So unless someone who bought the Amazon version can tell us where their save folder is, it will probably have to be found with a search. You can do a Search using Windows or using the command line, but I've had more luck using the command line. Either way, I suggest searching for cognition*.* and not save*.* Or it's possible you don't need the *.* on the end using the Windows Search.

Unless someone with the Amazon version of the game can tell us where their save folder is, I think the save folder will have to be found with some sort of a search.


Assuming the Amazon version also numbers its saves in this way, you could search for 001_01*.* and that might be a unique enough numbering system to find the exact saves.

Another possible way to search is by date and time. You'd have to use the Windows Search for that. Go into the game, make a new save, exit, and use the Windows Search for very recently created files.

cannot get to Roberts alley. john states contact police. how?

Have you completely studied Sarah Goodman's file already? Then learn about Robert? Ask for Sarah's evidence from Gwen?
If so - replay those and then go to Robert's Alley and talk to the bum.