Trying this game. Not sure about it yet - makes me a little sea sick. Can't figure out how it works.

I read in Jenny100's review that it's possible to pick a wrong conversation. How do you know if you do that or if you pick the right conversation? I am in the bar and there is a long list of people/items I can ask about. I asked about Mikes and Kefalgon which is what I think is right but how do I know?. (I did actually try all of them just to hear the responses and nothing else sounded like it would be right.)

Also, with the computer, am I supposed to just guess what to "search" or will I know when the time is right what I'm trying to search for? The bartender mentioned a name of somebody that Mikes spent time with, or tried to, who I would think maybe I could "search" but without closed captioning I can't really understand the person's name (at least not the last name).

I know these are kind of general questions but I'm just not sure how to proceed because I don't know the basics of how the game works. I'm at a total loss here.

Any advise appreciated.

Taking a look at one of the walkthroughs, I found this about conversations:



Beyond that, I really don't know.

It also appears to me that you will know what to search for when the time is right. Having said that, I have no personal knowledge of this game at all apart from what I can see looking over a walkthrough, so maybe someone else's input can confirm or deny this.

Thanks Marian.

It didn't happen to say how you know if it's a "game-over experience"? For example, does it say "game over" or does it let you wander around aimlessly just not being able to progress. That's what really worries me.

No, it doesn't say, unless I'm missing something. I sure hope it means literally game over and not a dead end that you can be unaware of.

OK, thanks for looking. I really appreciate it. I'll just have to see how this goes.

I will look forward to hearing about it.

Hi Marian. I progress a very teeny tiny bit but I have to go back to the conversation with the bartender if you don't mind. Will there be some indication given if I choose the right conversation?

I assume the bartender is called Bloody Mary. I can't really tell if there's an indication given if you choose the right conversation - it doesn't look like there are any "wrong" conversations here. You will gain some useful information, though.

Yea, if I've gained any useful information it hasn't formed in my brain yet and I've talked to her quite a number of times. I must not be doing something right with the conversation. I did have a conversation with the band that is now complete and I can't talk to them anymore.

I've also made it to Hapacom but I can't get in because I don't know the code to enter or how to get it.

This is going to be a very long game. I am not good with conversation trees or with having to type stuff into computers which you have to do in his apartment. This may be a "use the walkthrough" game.



Thanks for looking!


OHH. Now I see how I can advance the conversation tree so there are more things to ask about. Maybe now I can figure it out.

Good luck, as always.

I've wanted to play this for a long time. @oldbroad, what are you playing on and do you remember where you got the game?

8dognight, I'm playing on Windows 7 but I got the download from ShinyLoot which is no longer in business. I don't know if the disc version would work in Win 7 or not. There are some for sale on Amazon.

Marian, I need help. I need to get in Jenny's apartment and look through Aristos stuff. I don't have any idea what I'm supposed to be doing while I wait for her to go out. I want to sweep but that's not working. If I have his name wrong, I apologize. I scribble and cannot read my own writing anymore and I exited out of the game because it was making me crabby. I also have to break into Rania's apt but I think Jenny's first.

Did you pick up any inventory items in the Iphestos Bar?

I picked up a coaster and a hat in the bar. I used the hat already to talk to Jenny and it is no longer part of my inventory.

This is what is currently in my inventory: lighter, book w/Pekes phone #, cd from band in bar, cotton balls, 3 sticks of gum, card from dumpster that got me in back door to talk to Gloria, coffee, toothpaste, cloth, tape, talc, tennis ball & vitamins. I can use the broom in Jenny's building but can't take it out with me.

While standing near the door in the janitor’s room, have you tried using the broom on Jenny's door?

I tried using the broom on the door from some point. Let me go back in the game and try again. This game doesn't give you hot spots to know where to use things and since it makes me a little sea sick it's a bit harder. I'll come back and let you know. I got out of the game again.

Not working. He keeps saying he must do something else first.

OMG. I went back in and tries again and it worked right away!

Thanks Marian. I'll be calling it a night soon.

Yes, I am heading for bed as well. I am glad you have made some progress with the game - you certainly were on the right track in terms of what to do.

I guess I need more help. In Jenny's apt, I found a key and opened up a box but there isn't anything in it. It looks like the bottom might come up but if so, I can't do it. I also opened up a BusyManBag. If there was a clue to this combination, I didn't find it. I started with 000 and worked my way up until it opened. Fortunately that worked, as that does not always work with some puzzled if you haven't seen the clue. Anyway, I took a couple of things out of there but it looks like there might be something off on the right side of it that I can't seem to get. Not sure if it's anything or not. There is a locked door, I'm assuming is a bedroom that I can't get in.

I still have the same stuff in inventory as mentioned above plus I pilfered: scissors, bra, plunger, chemtron card, psychiatric unit discharge, and from Gloria's some nail varnish.

I don't know what else to do now. I am stuck again.

Thanks.

About the BusyMan case - here is the "logic" of the puzzle:



Looking over this section of the walkthrough, it looks to me like you have done everything, but it's possible I am missing something and will look it over again if need be. The walkthrough from here goes to a new area of the game.

The walkthrough is referring to a certificate and a Chemtron card - is your psychiatric unit discharge a certificate?

Thanks for the info Marian on the BusyMan Bag. I looked at it as a clue because some of the letters were in caps and some not, but I didn't come up with anything. Never would I have thought to count the quantity of letters and consonants/vowels. Maybe gives me some idea of how the puzzles work.

The discharge does not say "certificate" in the title but in the body it says something about "certifies that" something or other. It does not stay up on the screen long enough to even read it all at one time. I was hoping it opened a new location but it did not. Neither does the Chemtron card. Not that it matters. Places need codes and stuff that I don't know.

I'll make those items my focus and see if I can figure something out.

I am still not seeing that you have missed anything in this section of the game.

After this section, it says to leave the building and go to Nick's apartment. Having said that, if nothing is working for you, I will see if I can try to ferret out what you need to do that you haven't already done.

I'm stumped! I went to Nick's and tried to use the computer to look stuff up and talk to Pekes again. I think maybe I just don't know what to look up or how to look it up. I am really no good at this type of puzzle.

Was that box I unlocked in Jenny's supposed to be empty?

The box next to the television was indeed empty.

One walkthrough takes you back to Nick's apartment; another takes you to the Pallatino Building. So, I guess that there is some freedom within the game, even if just a little, and that it's not strictly linear.

Did you read/see the locksmith's card in Nick's apartment? It might be useful for something.

Why do they make you go to all that work of finding a key just to open an empty box???

I cannot get into the Palatino without a membership. I thought maybe I would find something in Jenny's to get me in there but...

No, I have not seen a locksmith's card in Nick's apartment. I will look around for that.

Thank you Marian.

Nitey Nite!

Onward and upward.