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Chewy - Esc From F5 #1096436
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Hi All,

Does anyone know how to get this game to play on Windows 7? Been looking for a couple of days and haven't found anything.

Thank you,

Mr. Bill

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The game should run on Windows 7 using DOSBox. The DOSBox site confirms this. According to MobyGames, the game will run in Windows as well, but I imagine that might be considerably more problematic to get working and you would need to use a virtual machine. I don't have any experience running Chewy with that, however. I did get the game running with DOSBox a few years ago.

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If it's a DOS game, it uses 16-bit code and won't run on 64-bit Windows without emulation. DOSBox is your best bet.

Re: Chewy - Esc From F5 [Re: mrbill] #1096548
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Thank you Marion and Jenny.

I searched the DosBox Website and I came up with 0 matches under search using the full name. Today I searched with just Chewy and got 0 again, but after I found, in the upper left, a menu choice so I could go to games beginning with C and found it (compatibility, C). smile Go figure!

Anyway, I'm going to give it a try, but will need help. When I installed DosBox in the beginning my Windows 7 placed it in C:\Program Files (x86)\DOSBox-0.74\. I realize this is an extra step when going for a game in DosBox. Do you recommend an uninstall and reinstall it as recommended in the Dos Box Tutorial?

Thank you.

Bill

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I don't have it installed in C:\Program Files (x86).
I don't trust the C:\Program Files folders to allow everything to install properly.

So yes I'd uninstall it from C:\Program Files and reinstall it elsewhere -- some location Windows isn't as overconcerned about "protecting" from the user.

No matter where you install the main folder, the DOSBox configuration file will probably go to
C:\Users\your-username\AppData\Local\DOSBox
and will call itself dosbox-0.74.conf in DOSBox 0.74.

So the full path to the configuration file will be
C:\Users\your-username\AppData\Local\DOSBox\dosbox-0.74.conf

The configuration file appears the first time you run DOSBox, but if you've had DOSBox installed before, the file may already be there.

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Thank you Jenny,

I Go to Control Panel uninstall programs and DosBox is not there. I have all folders and file extensions to show. So what have I missed. I do miss XP. :(

Bill

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You can probably just drag that folder to the trash and reinstall. The DOSBox installer may not do anything more than unpack a DOSBox folder to wherever you tell it to, and may not leave junk in the registry like most installers. At least that's what I've read.

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Hi Jenny,

Am I battling a losing battle with a 64 bit Windows 7 Professional OS? The game is on a CD (drive e) with a CHEWY.EX_, CHEWY.BAT, INSTALL.BAT and SETUP.EXE. and I don't know where to begin because if I need to get the game installed from CD into a CHEWY FOLDER in my oldgames folder which I call DOSGAMES. I don't think it plays from the CD directly (don't have a clue).

I realize the person I'm trying to help is more paralyzed by DosBox than I am, but she is using Windows 7 Home Premium (I think). I'm doing this with my 64 bit OS because I would like to play this game with Lela, Sounds cute, as well as help my friend.

Can the qame be installed onto my hard drive using DosBox??

I've Printed out their tutorial, but too many questions before I try things. Where do I start?

Cheers,

Bill

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Hi Bill, the game will definitely work with Windows 7 Pro running in DOSBox. I know, because I have run Chewy with Windows 7 Pro. When you install the game, you install it from within DOSBox, and it will then be installed on your hard drive. You will first need to use a mount command in DOSBOX to point the game as to where to install the game on your (C:) hard drive - in your case, it sounds like that would be your Dosgames folder that you already have. After that, you will need to use a mount command within DOSbox to mount your CD-ROM drive, and then you will be able to install the game.

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Originally Posted By: mrbill
Hi Jenny,

Am I battling a losing battle with a 64 bit Windows 7 Professional OS? The game is on a CD (drive e) with a CHEWY.EX_, CHEWY.BAT, INSTALL.BAT and SETUP.EXE. and I don't know where to begin because if I need to get the game installed from CD into a CHEWY FOLDER in my oldgames folder which I call DOSGAMES. I don't think it plays from the CD directly (don't have a clue).

Open the INSTALL.BAT with Notepad to see what it does.
Maybe the INSTALL.BAT is to install in DOS while the SETUP.EXE is to install in Windows 95. You'll want the DOS install for DOSBox.

You'll need to install through DOSBox. Even if you were able to install directly in Windows 7, DOSBox wouldn't necessarily know about it.

When you first open DOSBox, you get the Z: prompt

Mount the folder you want to be C:

If your DOSBox folder is C:\DOSGAMES enter the following at the Z: prompt

mount C C:\DOSGAMES

Then mount your CD drive as the drive letter you want in DOSBox (usually D: is best for DOS games). So if your DVD drive is F: enter the following at the Z: prompt

mount D F:\ -t cdrom

You may need other options for the CD drive if the game uses CD audio (Redbook files)

You can find more examples here
https://www.dosbox.com/wiki/MOUNT

If it helps, you can read the above as
"mount as C" C:\DOSGAMES
"mount as D" F:\ -t cdrom
In other words, the first letter in the command is what DOSBox sees (D:) and the 2nd letter is what Windows sees(F:).

So in summary

Z:\mount C C:\DOSGAMES
Z:\mount D F:\ -t cdrom
Z:\D:
D:\install.bat


That should start the game installation.

Once you figure out your mount lines, you can add them to the end of your dosbox-0.74.conf file and every time you run DOSBox these lines will be added automatically.

As a check, after typing in
Z:\mount C C:\DOSGAMES
Z:\mount D F:\ -t cdrom

you can do
Z:\dir C:
and
Z:\dir D:
to make sure the right folders/drives are mounted as C: and D: in DOSBox.

Re: Chewy - Esc From F5 [Re: Jenny100] #1096682
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I think MrBill said above that his CD-ROM drive is labeled "E." If so, MrBill, you would want to substitute the letter E in Jenny's outline above for the letter "F."

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Hi Marian,

Can you give me a brief example that I would use to install the game into the appropriate folder. It's the install using DosBox that I don't believe I have ever done. I assume I start by mounting my DVD Drive E.

Z:\> MOUNT E E:\ -t cdrom I don't know if this is how I get started in order to install from the DVD within DosBox, The only example I see in their tutorial is a game being played from the CDROM which I don't believe can be done with this game.

Thank you for helping me.

Bill

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I'm Sorry Jenny, I didn't find your response until now.

Thank you, thank you, thank you. I will print this out and give it a try. You and Marian are wonderful. I'll get back with you after I play with this awhile.

Cheers,

Bill

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Keep us posted, MrBill. I also have instructions at the ready now, if needed. luck

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By the way. I moved (drag and drop) DosBOX and my DosBoxGames folders into C:\ rather than delete them and reinstall DosBox and made a new shortcut for DosBox. Does this seem ok. I did it this way to save time if DosBox does nothing to the Registry.

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That sounds okay to me. I have DOSBox on my C: drive.

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I was asked what install.bat was for. At first it wouldn't open it because of my 64 bit this and that. I fooled it by dragging it into notepad on my desktop. This was the content of it:

echo off
setup
echo on

It is listed in the CD directory as a windows batch file (1KB)

There is also a DOS4GW.EXE that is an application

Bill

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What I typed in DOSBox in order to get the installation of the game to start was:

d:\ install

I did not use install.bat, I just typed install at the d:\ prompt.

This is of course assuming that I am understanding your problem and that you have already mounted your directory on your hard drive and also mounted your CD-ROM drive.

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Originally Posted By: mrbill
I was asked what install.bat was for. At first it wouldn't open it because of my 64 bit this and that.

Don't double-click a .bat file to view its contents.
Double-clicking it attempts to run the file, not view it.
Right-click it and choose Edit and it should open in Notepad.

Quote:
This was the content of it:

echo off
setup
echo on

It is listed in the CD directory as a windows batch file (1KB)

Looks like the game uses the same SETUP file to install in both Windows 95 and DOS.
So you can install using either
D:\>INSTALL
or
D:\>SETUP
within DOSBox.
Originally Posted By: Marian
What I typed in DOSBox in order to get the installation of the game to start was:

d:\ install

I did not use install.bat, I just typed install at the d:\ prompt.

You just did.
If there is an install.bat file present, and you type install, the computer runs install.bat
If there is an install.com file present, and you type install, the computer runs install.com
If there is an install.exe file present, and you type install, the computer runs install.exe
If there is more than one install file present, I expect DOS (or DOSBox) will ask you to clarify.

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Right, Jenny. I understood that I ran a batch file. I was just saying that I did not include the .bat in what I typed in order to launch it. I should have been more clear. I wasn't trying to confuse anyone - sorry if I did. smile

My CD of Chewy, by the way, is only in German. I didn't know this when I purchased it on eBay many years ago. No option of subtitles either. The installation instructions were solely in German as well. It wasn't that big a deal to figure it out, but I didn't get very far with playing the game - just took a look at the intro and the first few screens, so I have a very abbreviated idea of what the actual game is like.

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Some games can be played in other languages, especially if they have subtitles and other text that sticks around while you look stuff up with Google translator. But not all games are like this. I bought a French copy of Monkey Island 2 and couldn't figure out the Dial-A-Pirate thing to start the game. Four years of French in high school and Google translator and I still couldn't do it. My English version is on a CD, and didn't use the Dial-A-Pirate thing, so I still have no idea what I was doing wrong.

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I'm back and confused. After I close DosBox it no longer remembers dir C: or dir D:. Somehow during installation I got a duplication of the DOSGAMES Folder So that Chewy's pathway was in C:\DOSGAMES\DOSGAMES\CHEWY\CHEWY.EXE. I moved CHEWY to the first DOSGAMES and deleted second DOSGAMES Folder. So now the pathway is C:\DOSGAMES\CHEWY\CHEWY.EXE

So far I have not gotten the game to run in DOSBOX, I also did not know what to do when the sound thing came up.

Bill

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I have been trying to start the game. this is what is in a 1KB EXE file next to CHEWY Folder:

OS/4GW fatal error (1004): syntax is DOS4GW <executable.xxx>

Marian - you had it running. Does any of this ring a bell. Should I remove the DOS4GW>EXE File?

Bill

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Originally Posted By: mrbill
I'm back and confused. After I close DosBox it no longer remembers dir C: or dir D:.

That's normal if you don't put the mount lines at the end of the dosbox-0.74.conf file where it says
Quote:

[autoexec]
# Lines in this section will be run at startup.
# You can put your MOUNT lines here.

and save the changes.

The dosbox-0.74.conf file is found here
C:\Users\your-username\AppData\Local\DOSBox\dosbox-0.74.conf
and not in your DOSBox folder.
You edit the dosbox-0.74.conf file with Notepad.

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Somehow during installation I got a duplication of the DOSGAMES Folder So that Chewy's pathway was in C:\DOSGAMES\DOSGAMES\CHEWY\CHEWY.EXE. I moved CHEWY to the first DOSGAMES and deleted second DOSGAMES Folder. So now the pathway is C:\DOSGAMES\CHEWY\CHEWY.EXE

It sounds like you used the path C:\DOSGAMES inside DOSBox instead of C:
Windows sees the folder as C:\DOSGAMES but DOSBox sees the same folder as C:
So when you tell DOSBox to install the CHEWY folder in C:\DOSGAMES, DOSBox creates what it considers to be C:\DOSGAMES\CHEWY -- which Windows sees as
C:\DOSGAMES\DOSGAMES\CHEWY

I always found it easier to create a folder called C -- just the letter C -- inside whatever folder I wanted to keep DOSBox game stuff inside. That way it was easier for me to keep straight what DOSBox was seeing as the C: directory. For example,
mount C C:\dosgames\c

Was there anything else in the C:\DOSGAMES\DOSGAMES folder besides the CHEWY folder? Sometimes games put a specially configured .bat file in with the folder.

It's easy enough to delete the thing in Windows, and then reinstall in DOSBox using C: as the destination.

Quote:
So far I have not gotten the game to run in DOSBOX, I also did no know what to do when the sound thing came up.

You may need to configure sound for the game to work.
Usually choosing SB16 (SoundBlaster 16) works OK in DOSBox. If the game asks, choose

sbtype=sb16
sbbase=220
irq=7
dma=1
hdma=5

Those are the DOSBox defaults.
You can see the SET BLASTER line DOSBox uses by opening DOSBox and typing

type autoexec.bat

You should end up with something like

Quote:
Z:\>type autoexec.bat
SET BLASTER=A220 I7 D1 H5 T6


Originally Posted By: mrbill
I have been trying to start the game. this is what is in a 1KB EXE file next to CHEWY Folder:

OS/4GW fatal error (1004): syntax is DOS4GW <executable.xxx>
Should I remove the DOS4GW>EXE File?

Make sure it's installed correctly.
That file may be trying to point to the C:\DOSGAMES\DOSGAMES\CHEWY folder which no longer exists.

I'd delete everything the game installed and start over using C: as the destination in DOSBox, and not C:\DOSGAMES.

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No, you should not remove that file.

Here's what I did to get the game running. I have tried not to leave out any steps. If something looks wrong or unclear, hopefully Jenny can offer some advice:

First, I created a new folder on my C: drive and named it ChewyF5. Leave the folder empty; don't do anything else with it.

Then, I opened up DOSBox.

At the z: prompt, I typed the following:

mount c c:\ChewyF5 (and then hit enter)

Then, again at the z: prompt, I typed this:

mount d e:\ -t cdrom (and then hit enter)

Then, at the z: prompt, type d: (and then hit enter)

now type: install

You will not need to change the install path when the game asks where you want to install it. Let the game install to the default path. There will be another option for sound configuration. For both audio driver and digital, I chose the Soundblaster 16 option and told it to detect it automatically. After you are all done with that, you can say you are done and then you will be back at the DOSBox screen and you will see this:

C:\ChewyF5>

When you see that line, type the word chewy and hit enter

and then the game will begin.

____________________________________

That's it. I changed the above only insofar as it pertains to your CD-ROM drive letter, which is apparently E.

After the game starts, if it stutters/seems laggy, you may need to up the cycles in DOSBox. This is easily accomplished by hitting F12. I think I hit F12 about three times and then it seemed pretty smooth. What you need to do here depends upon your computer's processing power, I believe. Hitting F11 will cycle down.

The next time you wish to play the game, open up DOSBox and type the following:

type mount c c:\chewyF5 and hit enter

type mount d e:\ -t cdrom and hit enter

then type c: and hit enter

then type cd ChewyF5 and hit enter

then type chewy

You can set the above commands to run automatically so that you don't have to type them in every time you wish to play the game, but let's see if we can't get the game running first.



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