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Do you ever abandon a game? #1099471
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Just wondering if it's just me or has anyone abandoned playing a game? I've only done it a few times, but usually because I come across a frustratingly difficult puzzle that I cannot solve, and cannot get a saved game to pick up after that point. In some cases, games outcome depends on how you play, and using someone ease's saved game will give a different outcome. (or some games are not strictly linear, so a saved game from another player may not find you at the same point in the game).

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099473
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I never used to, but I find a lot of the newer games are not as engaging.


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1099475
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A definite "yes" from me !! yes

If I get bored to tears by a game I just don't see the sense in carrying on with it rolleyes

However, if there are no restrictions to my passing it on, I will do so, if only to a charity shop, as there's always the chance someone else might thoroughly enjoy it laugh


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: Mad] #1099477
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Yes for me too. I gave up on Myst because it was just too tough for me and I really am not a big fan of first person games.


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099478
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I just posted on another thread that I abandoned "Eyes of ARA." Whenever a game becomes more work than fun (Which is not very often!) I'll quit. It's like reading 200 pages of a novel and realizing that you don't care what happens to any of the characters. I just find the next one.


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099483
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I abandoned "The Experiment" It was more work than fun.


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099489
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yep i have - paradise springs to mind , as well as black mirror 2.

neither game reeled me in .

paradise was glitchy ,and black mirror 2 was just too slow moving and lacked

the variety of interesting puzzles the first had.

the myst games were another - just couldn't get into the first ones.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099493
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I've mostly only abandoned games when the computer I was playing them on stopped working. I do have one on this computer (Conspiracies) that I haven't officially given up on but I haven't been back to it for a long while. I am stuck in it and can't move forward. I've never given up on one because I just didn't like it though.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099494
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Yes, I was forced to quit playing "JazzPunk" for really strong motion sickeness.

I was also near to quit "Stacking" for the same reason but managed to play it through playing only less than 20 minute sessions during several weeks of time. Didn't have guts to play many alternative solutions though.

Also quit playing "Deadly Premonition" for poor graphics on WQHD screen and poor gamepad controller feeling.

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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: Mad] #1099495
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Originally Posted By: Mad
A definite "yes" from me !! yes

If I get bored to tears by a game I just don't see the sense in carrying on with it rolleyes


Me too, although I don't like doing it. These days I tend to gravitate to tried-and-true favorites, because I already know what I am getting and invariably finish them.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099533
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I posted on another thread I hsve abandoned eyes of ara, frustrating and it was becoming my lifes work. after 7 hrs of accomplishing nothing, and just getting bored, I quit. I want a game I can move thru and see progress, not a game that was written for the NOT 'ordinary gamer' For anyone who is playing it - enjoy - I DIDNT.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: oldbroad] #1099540
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Originally Posted By: oldbroad
I've mostly only abandoned games when the computer I was playing them on stopped working. I do have one on this computer (Conspiracies) that I haven't officially given up on but I haven't been back to it for a long while. I am stuck in it and can't move forward. I've never given up on one because I just didn't like it though.


How can you enjoy a game if you don't like it ?? woozy


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099554
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Well Mad, I guess I haven't TOTALLY disliked any game that I've played. There were parts of games I didn't like (fighting or boring or certain puzzles or getting motion sick) but I didn't dislike the game enough to just stop playing. Instead, what I may end up doing is using a walkthrough if that will help me to get to the end of the game sooner. I don't think I said I necessarily ENJOY them though. I just like to try to finish what I start, if I can.

Regarding the games on my non-working computers that I didn't finish, some are older games that won't play on Windows 7 like Alfred Hitchcock's: The Final Cut (I'm assuming that won't play on Win 7 but never actually tried it). The others were games that were giving me motion sickness so I haven't felt the urge to start them over (but may) or will try to continue if I ever get that computer fixed. One of the games was American McGee's Alice which I was actually liking a lot but I am not good at those type of games and wouldn't have been able to get much further in it anyway.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099563
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More times than I care to admit. When the fall of the first person adventures came, I tried to play some of the other adventures, more commonly described as 3rd person. I gave up on most of those including Grim Fandango, and Monkey Island 2 . That was at the start of my gaming hobby, and now I have a better handle on my taste in games.
Of my first person games that I didn't finish, most were due to glitches, though I never completed The Last Express nor Voyage because I just didn't like them.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099572
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There are two games I started but didn't finish, at least not yet. I recently was playing Spycraft: The Great Game on my older iMac when my built-in disc drive died. If I can find a compatible USB drive, I will finish the game, or else I"ll load it into my new iMac and start again. I also stopped playing Pegasus Prime because I lost all my saved games when moving to a different computer. I hope to get back to that one as well. I tend to take my time when playing a game and try to savor the moments. I guess I'm just lucky that as yet I haven't played a game I didn't like. smile


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099687
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The book of unwritten tales 2. It just felt like all I was doing was running chores. Maybe I will go back to it since I only completed chapter 1.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: oldbroad] #1099692
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Originally Posted By: oldbroad
Well Mad, I guess I haven't TOTALLY disliked any game that I've played.


Well I certainly can't say THAT !! rotfl


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099709
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When I first started playing adventure games (back when Windows 98 was current), I'd finish everything, even if I had to resort to Hints or a Walkthrough. I enjoyed most games, and nothing was bad enough that I couldn't finish it.

I certainly can't say the same now.

When I first started playing adventure games, there were...
  • No problems with motion sickness. Though nearly all Windows adventure games were first person at that time, they were point-and-clicks and did not use 3D movement.
  • No ruining immersion with pop-ups for so-called "Achievements."
  • No QTE's. There might be timed puzzles, which were annoying, but they weren't the impossible dexterity challenges you see today. They also didn't prevent you from viewing cut scenes the way QTE's do. (You always have to be watching for button command pop-ups with QTE's instead of being able to see what's happening in the game.)
  • Save games were easily transferrable and were located in the game folder -- not spread in locations all over the hard drive. It was easy to back up your saves.
  • Action/adventures were easy to spot. Adventure games might be miscategorized, but you could usually tell what you were getting from the game box.
There are a lot more reasons for me to stop playing a game now than there used to be. Skipping some obnoxious QTE with a save is more difficult when the game doesn't allow saves to be transferred, and usually isn't worth the effort.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: Jenny100] #1099711
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Very well expressed, Jenny. I may well be showing my age here, but I rather wish we were still in the 1990s when it comes to adventure games. There were so many good ones.

Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099730
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If I'd started playing what passes for "adventure games" now instead of back in the late 1990's, I don't know if I'd have continued. The signal to noise ratio has gotten so low, and very few of the games I started with are available (and reasonably bug-free) for modern systems. The re-releases of Cryo and Arxel games are often cut down to the point where they're not worth playing. Even if I found something I liked, it would be too difficult for a newbie to know where to look to find more.

It's not that there's nothing being released that I enjoy -- There are Botanicula/Samorost type games, pixel art games, and a few casuals. But it would be extremely hard for a new player to realize what an "adventure game" is supposed to be given that everything from so-called "walking simulators" to Telltale-style QTE games to platformers-with-a-story is being called an "adventure game."

How is a would-be player supposed to find games when their dexterity is lower than developers think is possible and 3D game engines with "free-roaming" movement make them too sick to play? There's a reason why casual games of various types are the most popular genre. They're the only genre that recognizes that people like this exist. Now if only they'd stop "talking down" to players by congratulating them for every little thing and constantly blocking the screen to tell them what to do next with pop-up and slide-in messages.

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Yes, give me a Windows 98 computer and the adventure games that played on that, and I would be a completely happy gamer. wave

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As the absolutely glorious Adventure releases of the 1990s started to dwindle, I decided to experiment and at least try to diversify yes

So I investigated RPGs (with turn based combat and reputedly decent story lines) and was amazed to find that not only could I manage some of them but I actually enjoyed those I could manage !! laugh

I also looked at Casuals but was disappointed with those until after I discovered that not ALL of them were solely hidden object searches happydance

Obviously a return to the fabulous Adventure games of the 1990s would be fantastic - but sadly it's very unlikely likely to happen. However, GOG's catalogue of "oldies tweaked for modern machines" is growing all the time so there's some compensation to be had there hamster


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Re: Do you ever abandon a game? [Re: nolalou] #1099820
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I uninstalled Guild Wars 2 (darkside) and Ankh 3. Lost interest in both.
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Good Subject !! I thought I was alone !!

I would say that of the games I purchased, that have be released in the past few years, I have abandoned just about all of them for one reason or another. I try to give them a shot but they fall flat real fast. smirk

I find a lot of them are hard to navigate and I wind up fighting a keyboard; dialog trees getting long winded and boring; graphics that look like stick drawings and are much too cartoony and corny; and puzzles that are way off the beam and have nothing to do with the storyline. woozy

Then there are some games that require you to have a "Super Computer" in order to play them. I won't even consider a game I buy that requires a STEAM account and where I have to install their client on my nice clean, powerful, safe machine - but I bet if I did, I would have purchased more games to abandon then I care to play. smashpc


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Games I've enjoyed aren't limited to 1990's releases. The 1990's was certainly when the bulk of them came out, but there were games from the early 2000's (Keepsake, Myst III, Schizm) that are among my favorites, and there were some games from the late 1980's that I enjoyed.

Originally Posted By: Mad
So I investigated RPGs (with turn based combat and reputedly decent story lines) and was amazed to find that not only could I manage some of them but I actually enjoyed those I could manage !!

I'm glad you were able to find a replacement. The trouble with RPG's for me is the repetition. You have to "build" your character(s) before he/she/they can go certain places and progress in the game, usually by fighting and defeating enemies. I don't usually have patience for all that repetition. On the positive side, at least you can eventually make progress -- unlike certain recent "adventure games" that include dexterity challenges that are dead ends even if you're using a walkthrough.

Originally Posted By: Mad
Obviously a return to the fabulous Adventure games of the 1990s would be fantastic - but sadly it's very unlikely likely to happen.

It won't. Gordon Aplin's "Shadow of the Monster" article is as true now as it ever was.
http://www.metzomagic.com/showArticle.php?index=456

Unfortunately the availability of 3D game engines means players who get motion sickness from 3D movement get left out, and aren't able to play recent first person puzzle-adventures (like Obduction or Quern) without getting sick -- a whole sub-genre gone useless. Despite that some people posted in the Obduction forum asking if it would be possible to skip the transitions, this feature doesn't seem to have been implemented. They tried to make "field of view" adjustable, but field of view" has to be "just right," not too wide or too narrow, and be coupled with other graphics features. Field of view adjustment alone isn't going to help everyone. Even people who don't normally get motion sick in FPS games have gotten sick in Obduction
https://www.reddit.com/r/Obduction/comments/4zvbx8/best_fov_to_reduce_motion_sickness/

Originally Posted By: Mad
However, GOG's catalogue of "oldies tweaked for modern machines" is growing all the time so there's some compensation to be had there

GOG tweaks for compatibility, not optimal gameplay.
Unless you want to play a game the size of a postage stamp, you may have to tweak anyway.
Not all GOG games work properly. For example, their version of Myst does not work on any of my computers. I've stopped buying games I already own from GOG "just to support them." I do not want "Galaxy hooks" in the games I play, and would prefer to buy DRM-free games elsewhere because of "Galaxy hooks" being added to GOG games.



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