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#1112997 - 06/06/17 03:08 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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Thanks Marian, I finally figured it out, I had to put the crystal in a different spot, then put it back. But I am stuck again. lol rotfl
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#1113002 - 06/06/17 03:19 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: TLC]
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Out of the frying pan into the fire. lol

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#1113126 - 06/07/17 05:10 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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Nearly finished this game now and I would heartily recommend it !! yes
A well made yay "lite" with an interesting story
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#1113127 - 06/07/17 05:17 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Mad]
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I'm looking forward to it. smile

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#1114133 - 06/15/17 09:11 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New HOPA on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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"No HO scenes?" Wheee! I'll check that out. happydance I don't have the uninterrupted time these days for a full-on PC game, and haven't been all that excited about the ones I've seen, so a casual is just right to fill in the edges.

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#1114137 - 06/15/17 09:50 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New HOPA on Big Fish [Re: Reenie]
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I hope you enjoy it, Reenie. smile

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#1136999 - 12/31/17 05:36 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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What is the difference between a hidden object scene and pixel hunting in an adventure game?

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#1137086 - 01/01/18 10:04 AM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: CountZero]
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That's a good question. From the standpoint of the developers, in a hidden object game their trying to keep something hidden is intentional. In an adventure game that's a pixel hunt, I don't think that's always (or even most of the time) the case.

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#1137138 - 01/01/18 03:04 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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In my experience, the two genre evolved completely differently. At the inception of the purely HOA games, the hunt for hidden things was all there was to the game function, aside from a tissue paper "plot" to give the game its raison d'etre. Gradually, the genre has been evolving to be more "Adventure-like," with the HO part reduced to periodic interruptions requiring you to look though piles of nonsensical stuff to find a few arbitrary bits (that usually bore no relevance to the plot of the game, such as looking for a pair of ice skates when your story was set in Africa). Even that has evolved and improved. Now, the HO you are searching for might be the tool you need to move on with the game, so HO games are becoming more like an mini-Adventure game in that respect. Still, you pretty much are on a "track" in these games, with one scene leading to the next, and only recently did they provide more open-ended play.

In contrast, "pure" adventure games were story-driven from the beginning, since they began life purely as text games on the earliest computers. When they became more visually graphic, searching for objects was added, predicated on the need to find tools to interact with the game environment. The games were wide open, and you always needed to take notes of where you were and what was happening in an Adventure game. Their complexity demanded this. When I played Anachronox and Outcast, I compiled a 3-ring binder as I progressed through the game. There are complex character interactions that can change the game's outcome, depending on how you respond to them. Their focus still remains more on exploring the environment based on a plot. In some of the recent ones I've played, there was very little pixel-hunting.

Just my impression of the differences. I'm simplifying, I know, and this turned into a comparison between the two genre somehow. ha ha

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#1137151 - 01/01/18 06:07 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: CountZero]
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Originally Posted By: CountZero
What is the difference between a hidden object scene and pixel hunting in an adventure game?

With a pixel hunt you can't see what you're looking for and have to click around with your mouse to find an interactive hotspot.

Usually the "hidden objects" in so-called "hidden object games" (at least in the older ones) are not hidden or are only partially hidden, and you can find them by carefully searching the screen with your eyes. This can still be challenging if the objects are small or dark or blurred or otherwise obscured.

Some of the newer "hidden object games" do have pixel hunts because of having "interactive" hidden object scenes. Objects that require "interaction" before collecting them are usually listed in a different color from the regular objects, and may or may not be pixel hunts. For example "lit candle" might require you to use matches on a candle before you can collect the candle. But a different interaction might require you to open a box before collecting an object inside -- and no way to predict that object would be in a box. You would search the screen with the mouse until the cursor changed to indicate possible interaction. But you have to explore with your cursor, just like with a pixel hunt in an adventure game, to locate the interactive objects that aren't clued.

I prefer the older type of hidden object scenes -- either lists or silhouettes -- where the objects can be found 100% by eyeballing and don't require scrubbing around with your mouse, looking for invisible interactions. Although I don't mind something like "lit candle" where you can see the candle and matches on the screen, there are some newer games that take 4 or 5 interactions to find an object, and the object you're looking for has no obvious connection with the first few interactions, which are all "do it because you can and see what happens."

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A discussion of the differences between hidden object scenes and pixel hunts probably deserves its own thread. I expect anyone who regularly plays hidden object games knows the difference.

But I may be in the minority in preferring the older searches that didn't require interactions -- at least not multi-step try-it-and-see-what-happens hidden object searches. I may be in the minority in thinking that the multi-step try-it-and-see-what-happens hidden object searches are more like pixel hunts (and less desirable) than the hidden object searches in the older games.

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#1137236 - 01/02/18 07:51 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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It appears there is no "Trial Game" option on this one? You have to buy it, sight unseen?

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#1137237 - 01/02/18 07:58 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Reenie]
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Not sure what you are looking at, but the download page with the trial version is here. wave12

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#1137239 - 01/02/18 09:13 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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I see the trial version also.
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#1137247 - 01/02/18 10:18 PM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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Well, I downloaded the game and the usual dialogue box pops up, but ~ instead of offering me the Trial Game to play ~ the screen says, "Time's Up! Your free trial is over."

I have not played ANY of it yet. Only downloaded the files! The single option available to me now is the Buy It button. crazy

I guess I will uninstall it and try downloading it again. So weird. Never had that happen before.

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Edit: Well, I just unloaded and reinstalled it and it did the same thing again. It finished installing and immediately said, "Trial Expired." So, I guess I'll skip that one for now.


Edited by Reenie (01/02/18 10:42 PM)

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#1137273 - 01/03/18 07:14 AM Re: Alicia Griffith: Lakeside Murder - New Adventure Lite on Big Fish [Re: Marian]
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I got Alicia Griffith Lakeside Murder from www.denda.com and it is the Dutch version of the game. As I understand it, the game was made by Denda games. Denda is a hugh platform for hidden object games.

In the past Denda offered free trail versions of their games. You could try out a Denda game for 1 hour to decide if the game was worth buying. After 1 hour playtime your trail expires and you could not load it again.

Recently Denda games has decided to quit with trial versions, instead they have lower their prices for there games and they have fix their prices at 5,99 euro per game. Don't know exactly how much this is in US Dollar, but giving that one euro is more than one US dollar it would probebly 3 or 4 US dollars. If you got this game through Big Fish then I believe that Big Fish isn't allowed to offer a trial version for Alicia Griffith. You have to buy the game

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