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Hi Marian I am still near the beginning of this game, at the bridge. I am supposed to be making the hermit's mouse fly but first I have to figure out how to "retain the energy attached to the mouse". Any hints you can give me? Thanks.
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Re: Pilgrim
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07/22/17 11:17 PM
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Hi Oldbroad This was a somewhat convoluted puzzle if I remember correctly and depends where you are at in the sequence. Mags walkthrough is pretty good here and if you post where you are I will look and report back. The first step is go to Petronus
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Re: Pilgrim
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07/23/17 03:30 PM
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No problem at all Marian. I know it is hard to know where a person is when you can't see it. And when trying to explain where you are, you (I) often leave big gaps of information out.
BUT - may I say ARGH!!! A timed puzzle that doesn't seem like it has much time. I will have to work on this.
DOUBLE ARGH. I clicked too fast on too many different things I guess and the game crashed.
Last edited by oldbroad; 07/23/17 03:36 PM.
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Re: Pilgrim
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07/24/17 06:50 AM
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I played this game - twice - a very long time ago - and certainly found it either "buggy" or "picky" !! [Can't make up my mind.] But I still liked it
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Re: Pilgrim
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07/24/17 08:33 PM
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No problem flotsam. I'm sure there will be more opportunities. And Marian got me going. I'm still early in Mad so I hope it's not too bad. I just have to remember not to panic next time I run into a timed puzzle. It just took me by surprise. And I am saving often.
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Re: Pilgrim
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07/25/17 02:35 PM
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It's an older game and not available for download anywhere, as far as I know. I believe that oldbroad is playing this on her Windows XP computer, and no idea whether the game would run on systems newer than that, although I tend to doubt it. I see a few for sale on eBay; here is one listing.
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Re: Pilgrim
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07/25/17 02:47 PM
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I've never heard of this game until I read this thread. Can anyone tell me if and where this game is available for download? It's not available for download -- not from any legitimate site anyway -- and probably won't ever be due to the presence of 16-bit code. Pilgrim was originally published in 1997 for Windows 3.1/95. Windows 3.1 means 16-bit code, which won't run on 64-bit Windows outside of emulation. Although the game was re-released in 2001 for Window 95/98/ME, it's not likely that the 16-bit code was replaced because Windows 95/98/ME is 32-bit and works fine with 16-bit code. 32-bit XP also works with 16-bit code.
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Re: Pilgrim
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08/02/17 12:34 AM
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I agree... definitely one of my biggest pet peeves with some games.
Gardens put to bed for the winter. Time for some gaming!
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Re: Pilgrim
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08/02/17 05:08 PM
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" Mad, did the picky part have anything to do with having to do things in an exact order?" After all this time I honestly can't say for sure, oldbroad, but I think it's very likely it would have. Some of those older games did suffer from such faults and I found consulting a walkthrough to be the best way to get past them ]
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Re: Pilgrim
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Oh, dear !! Well I hope you do manage to carry on, oldbroad. On the whole, even though it had its moments, I did like this game
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Re: Pilgrim
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08/02/17 05:55 PM
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I typed the wrong thing above. It is the cutler that I'm clicking the money bag on (I typed the money changer above but that was my bad memory typing) which is what the walkthrough says to do, and then you are supposed to click Paul on him. When I click the money bag, the cutler stops sharpening and looks up, then when I click Paul on him he looks down. He doesn't do anything else. Doesn't start sharpening again, doesn't talk, doesn't take the money. Therefore, I cannot go back to Paul's home without the maid shutting the door in my face. I guess I will play the part over and hopefully be done with it.
I DO like the game Mad, but when I have to do the same thing over and over, I need long breaks in between. I'm going to go give the replay a try right now though!
Only ended up having to replay 1/2 of the section. Started where I knew what everybody needed but I hadn't started fulfilling their needs. I think the difference was something to do with when I did the scale puzzle. Not sure though but I didn't have any trouble after that.
Am now in the Abbey dungeon.
Last edited by oldbroad; 08/02/17 07:29 PM. Reason: updated info
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Re: Pilgrim
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I'm stumped. I am trying to find Durandal the sword. I found "a" sword and I found a staff. There is a room with holes all in the floor that the staff will disappear into. I thought I was putting it in the sword or something but nope, it is going into the floor never to be seen again and doesn't seem to accomplish anything except that the holes are no longer active hot spots.
Or is it going in the sword? I can't really tell, but the hot spot on the top of the sword does go away when I put the staff in there. I am doing this on the slab where the sword goes. But even if this is correct, I am still stuck then. It is still not Durandal and I don't see anything else to do.
Can you try to hint me?
Thanks!
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Re: Pilgrim
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08/09/17 04:28 PM
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After you have picked up the sword and the staff, the walkthrough says to go back down to the basement mausoleum and place the sword at: The staff gets placed somewhere else. Let me know if this helps get you moving again.
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Re: Pilgrim
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Marian, I swear to you, I tried every hole in that floor and some of them more than once because I did try to use that column as a reference but I didn't get anywhere, until this time! I think I did not have the sword in place when I placed the staff and it did not work placing the staff first and then the sword. I even thought of that at some point but did not feel like going back and retrying them again. (I had to reload a saved game each time as the shaft disappeared into the holes.) Thank you once again for sticking with me here. Let's see if I can get any further. It is taking me a long time to play this game which is actually a testament to the game. The less I like a game the quicker I reach for the walkthrough so I can get it done with.
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Re: Pilgrim
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08/14/17 12:52 PM
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I'm stuck again. I can't seem to move forward very far without getting stuck. I have helped a young couple get rid of a spirit in their home and am now in a room with a bell rope, a stairway up to a platform where there is a circular plaque with many different pictures on it where I can put the Staff and position it at any of these pictures, and there is a room off to the side where I picked up a map painting and read a note left there. The door out of the room will not open. I don't know any other way to describe this Marian. I am sorry. I do know that it is probably about halfway down the walkthrough because I did look at the walkthrough while dealing with the spirit. I guess I have to do something with the staff and that circular plaque thing. I haven't got a clue. This game is way too hard for me!!
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Re: Pilgrim
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I used the walkthrough but it didn't really seem to work for me. I eventually got it after clicking and clicking. The actual maze was a lot different than the map in the walkthrough.
Anyway, I am at the 3 Kings section now. I have talked to all 3 of them and taken all their stuff (peace, power, progress, glory, love, salvation, axe, staff, sword). The King of Lore wants me to kill his guard Weak; Weak wants me to give him power. The King of Strength wants me to kill his guard Pagan; Pagan wants me to give him salvation.
If I give the guards what they want, I get game over. If I give them something else, I get game over. When I give them what they want they bow their heads and it seems like I should do something else, but so far I haven't had much time once the cursor becomes available so I'm not sure if that's right or not.
When you get game over it brings you back to the beginning of the section. After listening to a rather long conversation, I can load my saved game but I'm getting tired of the repetition.
Anything you can tell me without giving me the full answer?
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Re: Pilgrim
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08/15/17 12:47 AM
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Each King has 2 gifts enclosed in glass and can be taken only by breaking the glass with weapons other than that king's. You need to shoot one of the ghosts. Then you need to have a conversation. Sorry - it's hard to be vague.
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Re: Pilgrim
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I don't know anything about chess either, and I suspect maybe you'll just need to know the moves. I know I wouldn't have the slightest clue what to do as a player. Having said that, here is the first line about the chess puzzle: Chess puzzle - to mate in two, click white pawn on blue book/manuscript on chest board. This brings the white pawn to bag. There are three more moves after this. And you are also getting pretty close to the end of the game - there appears to be one more sequence of the game after the chess puzzle.
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Re: Pilgrim
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This doesn't seem to be working for me. The white pawn IS the blue book. I have to click it two times for anything to happen and then it brings the white rook to the bag. I'm reloading again now and will try again but ... Well, ok. What happens next after the white pawn is in the bag?
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Re: Pilgrim
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Well, I am puzzled, because looking the answers over, I don't see how anyone could necessarily come up with all of the correct responses without some sort of additional reference material. I just took a look at a description of the game elsewhere online and it says the following: In addition there is a walkthrough on the first CD, which may be printed for easy reference. Plus there is a comprehensive built-in encyclopedia, which may be accessed at any time, to document and elaborate upon the historical facts relating to the game. What I am wondering is if this encyclopedia might be useful for some of the answers.
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Re: Pilgrim
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08/16/17 04:15 PM
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Getting frustrated again. Have answered 5 questions without to much problem but have been stuck on this 6th one for a long time. Seems like I've tried every possible answer. How many questions are there Marian?
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