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#113293 - 06/24/03 07:21 PM The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
Raj Offline
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Hey folks... Is anyone familiar with The Dig: A Novel by Alan Dean Foster?

I know the book is closely related to the game, but I don't know if it merely amounts to a grandiose walkthrough, or whether it's a novel in it's own right with a plot different from the game. . . and, either way, whether it's any good.

I believe Infocom used to publish novels for text games like Zork and Wishbringer. I just found out about these, but, from what I've gathered, these are novels that take place in the game universe, but they aren't walkthroughs.

I figure it's unlikely that anyone knows about those Infocom games, but Alan Dean Foster is, I understand, a fairly well know science fiction writer.

SO... Whassuppwidduhbooks?
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#113294 - 06/24/03 08:26 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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Raj

My game came with the novel. I haven't read it, but it seems to be the same story as the game.

The Dig

You can read some of the book at the Amazon site. Have you played the game?

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#113295 - 06/24/03 08:31 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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Raj,

Alan Dean Foster is a very reputable author in his own right. I've never read the Dig but Foster can write.

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#113296 - 06/25/03 09:46 AM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
Raj Offline
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Thanks guys!

That settles that!

I had no idea the book was really promotional material. Since Foster is a well known writer and not someone in gaming, I had high hopes.

Really, Pokey... it came with the game!

Well... that makes the analogy pretty complete with Jane Jensen's "novel" of Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Father.

Too bad. If I recall correctly, someone around here (Jenny100?) reported a long list of novels written in the MYST universe.

It'd be nice to see a little more of that, in the cases where we aren't getting new games.

(oooh like... I dunno.... ooooh something, something... something detective-y... something... oooooh... I dunno... something... um... Texan...)

The old Infocom books, at least, don't seem to be walkthroughs.

Perhaps I'll ask around in the IF groups.

Anyhow, thanks guys.

And yes... The Dig is another of the games I've started but haven't finished and now I'll finish the game before reading the novel. laugh
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#113297 - 06/25/03 04:38 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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Didnt even know The Dig had a novel... only reason i really got into the game Rama was because it had 4 novels based on Rama, (game was based on the novel RamaII)

learn something everyday.. i shall keep an eye out for this smile

~Polo
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#113298 - 06/25/03 05:13 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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Myst: Book of Ti'ana
Myst: Book of Atrus
Myst: Book of D'ni

...apparently there is a Myst: Book of Marrim - but they (either Cyan or the publisher) want to release it after Uru comes out...

I've just read another email that says there's a 5th book... but I don't know any detail about it...

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#113299 - 06/25/03 09:40 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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Foster has written alot of adaptations of movies. The Thing is one. Read it before the remake of the movie came out. Didn't see the remake but from what I heard the book is more like the remake than the original. Haven't read the book. He also did the first nine logs of the original Star Trek series and it reads like the show. You'll find him in the sci-fi/fantasy section. Has a neat sense of humor and a wild imagination.
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#113300 - 06/26/03 08:41 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
Raj Offline
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Hey Pollo! You say the game Rama was like Rama II? I know of only one Rama book and that was Rendezvous with Rama. Was that just the first one? I thought the game was going to be based on that one. Perhaps I better read the book before I see if I want to play the game? (I've heard it's hard for arithmaphobes like me.)

Usually, I would do anything to avoid having the plot of a game revealed to me ahead of time. But in this case... I feel differently because I'm unsure of the game. (I guess.)

Magician, who wrote those books? Any of the people who worked on the Myst games? Do they take into account the events of the games? ...and... the big question... who the heck is the protagonist?!?!?!?!

acornia, man! from what you said this whole... read the book first, no see the movie first, no play the game first, no see the remake first... no... uh... just play games like Harry Potter where it doesn't matter as long as you can jump... so who cares how it fits with the books or the movies because... it doesn't.

I'm still on the fence about this whole books from games/games from books thing. I mean... would we want to say Rick Barba has written novelizations of all those games through the Prima guides?
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#113301 - 06/27/03 12:50 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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Hey Raj! yep there are 4 books in the Rama Series!

Rendezvous With Rama
Rama II
The Garden Of Rama
Rama Revealed

got them all from Amazon.co.uk (apart from RamaII which came with the game)- i have read the first three books but i havent started Rama Revealed yet but i'll get round to it of course... ive enjoyed the books so far they are abit to take it but give it sometime...

~Polo
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#113302 - 06/28/03 02:05 AM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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I, too, read all four RAMA books, having played and enjoyed the game. I was a little surprised that it was "Rama II" rather than "Rendezvous With Rama" on which the game was based. John Saul wrote "The Blackstone Chronicles" upon which the game was based. I think it is interesting to read the book upon which an Adventure game was based. I haven't figured which to do first, though so far I have first played the game. In a certain sense this is the opposite of what I prefer to do in the Book/Movie sequence. I prefer to read the book first, since if I see a movie first, then in reading the book, my imagination is stunted by having a fixation on the characters as portrayed in the movie. I prefer to develop them myself and then, possibly, modify them upon seeing the movie.
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#113303 - 06/28/03 11:04 AM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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Quote:
Originally posted by Pokey:
Raj

My game came with the novel. I haven't read it, but it seems to be the same story as the game.

The Dig

You can read some of the book at the Amazon site. Have you played the game?
You would probably better reading the Flinx books than playing a game based on them.Alan Dean Foster,incidentally is the author of Alien.He's one of my favourite authors.

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#113304 - 06/28/03 03:30 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
Raj Offline
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Advpuzlov
Quote:
I haven't figured which to do first, though so far I have first played the game. In a certain sense this is the opposite of what I prefer to do in the Book/Movie sequence.
I have the same dilemma... to see Eldorado: Road to Gold and Glory first, or play the game first? I saw the movie first, and I think that was better because I knew the characters and wanted game play to match the characters and world I'd seen.

Harry Potter? Definitely the books and movies first because the games have pretty much nothing interesting in them... just jumping action stuff... Lara with a wand.

But then there are these books based on games that come off as elaborate walkthroughs, as I think The Dig is. The only one I've read is Jane Jensen's Gabriel Knight: Sins of the Father.

NOW... for that one I did something different, and perhaps I could enjoy following this plan with The Dig, too. I would play the game and then, go and read the section of the book I'd just finished.

But of course I never got stuck and used the book as a walkthrough. No, not me. wink

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You would probably better reading the Flinx books than playing a game based on them. (emphasis mine)
What are the games??
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#113305 - 06/28/03 05:35 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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I have the audio version of The Dig book. I've listened to it many times. I love it. I've also played the game many moons ago. bravo wave
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#113306 - 06/28/03 06:56 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
Raj Offline
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Midge!! That sounds cool! Is that unabridged? Who reads it? Someone who did a voice in the game? laugh
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#113307 - 06/28/03 08:39 PM Re: The Dig Novel - Alan Dean Foster opinions?
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I have read Gabriel Knight, Sins of the Fathers and Gabriel Knight, The Beast Within and The 7th Guest. All after I played the games. It helped me to understand anything I didn't quite follow in the game. I have the three Myst books to read soon. Oh, and I also found a copy of the novel Tender Loving Care that I will read soon. I found the movie Tender Loving Care and that was good--without all the questions. I wish I could get the Tex Murphy novels but I am not willing to pay the kind of prices those go for.

Now, about books before the movie or after, I get too irritated of the way things are changed and what they leave out so I guess I would rather see the movie first most of the time. Then the book just expands on the story.

Well, that's my two cents worth. Shelly

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