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#1137415 - 01/04/18 09:58 AM Current Re-Play :-)
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Long time since I did it so have just started the first Black Mirror (the old and original) and am thoroughly enjoying, all over again, the stilted conversations and the erratic way Samuel walks from place to place wink

They just don't make 'em like that any more lol
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#1137423 - 01/04/18 12:34 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I really enjoyed the first Black Mirror. I wish I could erase my memory to play it like the first time!
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#1137435 - 01/04/18 02:22 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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I loved the stilted conversations and the way that Samuel walked! grin I replayed the game this past year, and enjoyed it even more than I did the first time around. In fact, I'd be ready to play it again this month. happydance

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#1137442 - 01/04/18 03:28 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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A couple of months ago Ross Scott (of Ross's Game Dungeon) posted a video review of the first Black Mirror.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvkcRSLfGHU

It was fun to see what he thought of it.
Probably best if you've played the game before.

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#1137462 - 01/04/18 06:56 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
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Originally Posted By: BrownEyedTigre
I really enjoyed the first Black Mirror. I wish I could erase my memory to play it like the first time!


Memory erase becomes easier the older you get, smile

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#1137485 - 01/05/18 12:08 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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The original Black Mirror is a fantastic game, pretty high up there on my favorites list. I still consider it the best of the series. The voice acting isn't great, it's true, but that's part of the game's personality, just like Nigel's odd way of speaking is part of The Lost Crown's. lol I'm also coming up on a replay of Black Mirror in a few games and am looking forward to it. Glad you're enjoying it all over again, Mad. thumbsup

Jenny, thanks for the link. I added it to my watch later list. smile
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#1137504 - 01/05/18 09:16 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: venus]
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Already stuck !! eek

Reached the point of trying to "re-assemble the torn photo" - which could take me WEEKS lol
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#1137605 - 01/06/18 10:50 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Hah !! Just thought I'd check in and mention that I solved the torn picture tomato

Loving this oldie all over again thumbsup
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#1137616 - 01/06/18 12:24 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Yay Mad! I've got this downloaded for a replay soon also.

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#1137715 - 01/07/18 11:56 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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I'm sure you will enjoy yourself, oldbroad yes

I'm having a great time with it and made HUGE progress today .. Instead of doing things I should have been doing !! evil
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#1137716 - 01/07/18 12:01 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I enjoyed putting that torn photo together; it took me quite a while, but so satisfying to get it finished. yes

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#1137718 - 01/07/18 12:14 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Marian]
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I agree smile But I know there are much more difficult puzzles to come eek
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#1137721 - 01/07/18 12:23 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Indeed. On my replay I used a saved game for one of them. blush

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#1137827 - 01/08/18 10:53 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Marian]
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I've already dug out my ancient notes in case I get stuck and there's any help to be had from them !! laugh
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#1138122 - 01/11/18 01:35 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Wow !! I'd forgotten just how fascinating this game actually is !!

And a good job I dug out my old notes because there are some mind truly mind boggling puzzles to deal with !!

Absolutely having a blast hamster
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#1138124 - 01/11/18 01:40 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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You are making me want to replay this game now. rah

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#1138132 - 01/11/18 02:23 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Marian]
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What .... Again ????

lol lol lol
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#1138141 - 01/11/18 05:54 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Arrgh - So I thought I would also replay Black Mirror - Put the CD in and installed it, but that dumb Star Trac (is that the right name?) security system won't allow it to proceed. I paid for that game; dammit I should be able to play it.
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#1138144 - 01/11/18 06:28 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Tally Ho]
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It is Starforce, Tally Ho. Either google for a Black Mirror NO CD fix or buy the game as a digital download from Steam or GOG. That will circumvent your problem. I have used the first method for my Black Mirror CD in the past, and it works. I have since purchased the game from GOG so that I don't have to mess with the copy protection problem.

Yes, Mad, I am very tempted to start the game again. grin

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#1138171 - 01/12/18 04:16 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I've played the original Black Mirror at least three times, and recently replayed the "trilogy". The original is by far the best imo. The voiceacting, especially the choice of voice actor for Samuel, is not its strongest point, but I consider this game to be a minor classic in the genre. Don't care much for the other two games in the trilogy, but at least they are better than the "reworked" Black Mirror game from last year...

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#1138518 - 01/15/18 10:38 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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More on the StarForce story -

I went to the StarForce website, and found a utility that will diagnose problems.

Here's the message I got.
"Unfortunately, this application uses very old protection version 3.03.027.035 and will not run under Windows 10 x64.
You should contact your product customer support service and ask them to make a patch, which will either update protection system version or remove protection at all.
Unfortunately, StarForce company can't build such a patch since we neither have legal authority to produce any patches nor original application files required for that.

Please, accept our apologies for the inconveniences."

So again, although I paid good money for a game when it came out, if I want to replay if, I must buy it again. That really goes against the grain.

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CAUTION! If you are at all queasy, or sensitive to language or violence or all-out sex, don't watch it. It's really bizarre. It has been compared to Twilight Zone, but no. Not. Nothing like Twilight Zone. The only similarity is that each episode is a stand-alone story.

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Anyway, enough blathering. I probably won't be re-playing Black Mirror. Those of you who do, enjoy. It's a really good adventure. wave2
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#1138520 - 01/15/18 10:45 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Tally Ho]
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Tally Ho, if memory serves, I have seen Black Mirror selling on GOG for less than $4 during a sale, and it will almost assuredly happen again. Not too bad a price to pay, even if you already have the CD.

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#1138544 - 01/15/18 01:34 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Marian]
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Just gave myself a fright !! eek

Reached the point of
Click to reveal..
the notoriously difficult ZODIAC slider puzzle in Wales
but after searching through my old notes found I did have a saved game stashed away.

Phew !! dance
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#1138550 - 01/15/18 02:03 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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That is the puzzle that I used a saved game for, Mad - it's quite the horror! help grin

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#1138552 - 01/15/18 02:09 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Marian]
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Absolutely !!!! crazy
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#1139155 - 01/21/18 06:01 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Finished my re-play of The Black Mirror and thoroughly enjoyed it happydance Now about to start a re-play of The Black Mirror 2 rah
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#1139156 - 01/21/18 06:08 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Sounds good! joy

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#1139178 - 01/21/18 10:23 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Marian]
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Yeah !! 😄
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#1139274 - 01/22/18 02:10 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Now you have me replaying game 1. I am off to a bad start though, already stuck. (I will post in the hints section if I need to.) I cannot open the drawer in my room and I cannot see the too high door frame. eek

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#1139301 - 01/22/18 04:40 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Winfrey .. Just a tip ..

Something I kept forgetting to do was click my R Mouse button on things grin
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#1139306 - 01/22/18 04:54 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Did you mean oldbroad Mad?

Thanks for that tip because I think I thought of trying that but didn't or maybe where I tried it there was nothing to see.

Or are you in a wrong subject here?

Must be the birthday thing. lol

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#1139309 - 01/22/18 05:02 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Definitely left AND right-click on everything; otherwise, you will find yourself stuck at several points throughout the game. wave

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#1139312 - 01/22/18 05:50 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Sorry oldbroad. Yes. I was intending the "tip" for you woozy

[ But blaming the "birthday thing" sounds like a good excuse - even if a naughty one - for the lapse wink ]

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#1139315 - 01/22/18 06:07 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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birthday flowers redchicken Mad.

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#1139323 - 01/22/18 08:13 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Thank you Mad and Marian. I will start to right click!

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#1139340 - 01/22/18 10:09 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Oldbroad and Marian hamster hamster
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#1139345 - 01/22/18 11:50 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I'm replaying the game now too.

Speaking of right-clicking, I just discovered something that I don't remember from previous plays. On the Save Game screen there are 24 save game slots, but you can only see 8 of them at any one time. If you click the up or down arrows it will scroll up or down one slot at a time, but if you right-click the arrows, it will scroll up or down a whole page (8 slots) at a time. Every time you open the Save Game screen, it always starts at the first 8 slots, so if you're using save games near the bottom of the 24 slots, this cane save a lot of clicks.

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#1139389 - 01/23/18 02:20 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I don't know why I didn't re-read the game booklet. Then I would have known about the right clicking.

Uncle Reg - only 24 save slots??? I've already used 6 I think and I'm still at the beginning of the game.

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#1139397 - 01/23/18 03:59 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Saves can be overwritten. I found I managed fine using and then gradually overwriting my saves thumbsup
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#1139398 - 01/23/18 04:25 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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I forgot to mention that this right-click feature also works on the Load Game screen.

Originally Posted By: oldbroad
I don't know why I didn't re-read the game booklet. Then I would have known about the right clicking

I went back and read the manual (which is supplied as a PDF file in the GOG version), and while it amply covers the use of right-clicking during gameplay and in the inventory, there was no mention of using it in the Save Game and Load Game screens.

Originally Posted By: oldbroad
Uncle Reg - only 24 save slots??? I've already used 6 I think and I'm still at the beginning of the game.

The game is divided into chapters (I think I remember that there were 6 chapters in all), so that once you advance to a new chapter, you can safely overwrite the saves for the previous chapter(s). That would effectively give you 24 saves for each chapter. I'm on Chapter 4 now, and the 24 slots have been adequate for me.

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#1139423 - 01/23/18 08:24 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I'm no stranger to overwriting saves. I just didn't realize there were only 24 though.

I'm playing the GOG version but looked at the manual that came with my old disc. I never think to look for manuals with the downloads for some reason.

I'm off work tomorrow so, hopefully, progress will be made!

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#1139424 - 01/23/18 08:33 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Originally Posted By: oldbroad
I never think to look for manuals with the downloads for some reason.

I don't either. I always used to look at the paper manuals back when we had physical releases.

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#1139447 - 01/24/18 03:47 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Jenny100]
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I seldom look at them for Adventure games .... Unless I get stuck in some way .... And then of course I'm kicking myself for not having looked !! blush
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#1139557 - 01/25/18 12:17 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I just discovered another place where right-click works. It's on the scroll arrows at the left or right of the inventory bar. If you right-click the left arrow it will move the inventory items so that the first inventory item is on the left side of the bar, and right-clicking the right arrow will move the items so that the last item is on the right side of the bar.


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#1139563 - 01/25/18 06:37 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Uncle Reg]
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Thanks for the info, Uncle Reg thumbsup
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#1139600 - 01/25/18 03:19 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I'm replaying this game now as well. Thorsgoats and I love to quote these lines - "I think I will go now." "I'll return to my work." Samuel and Bates say these lines so many times, they seem to take up half of the game. lol

Really fantastic game, of course. I haven't gotten to the slider puzzle yet, but as I know the trick to solving it, I've never needed a saved game for it. devil I do, however, keep saved games for two of the very long waits after a couple of characters tell Samuel to come back later. I remember the second one taking about 40-45 minutes, with nothing to do in the meantime but run around to all the areas several times and re-read some of the family history just to pass the time. crazy

I've just gotten to the part where (very mild spoilers for the entire trilogy)
Click to reveal..
Samuel visits Murray in the pawn shop. Murray is a very different character here than he is in Black Mirrors 2 and 3.
grin

The original is still definitely my favorite, though I loved the sequels as well. I'm still avoiding the newest game, as I'm hoping a patch to fix the controls will be released at some point. If not, I'll power through it one of these days. smile


Edited by venus (01/25/18 03:21 PM)
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#1139834 - 01/28/18 03:37 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Hi fellow Boomers,
i'm also re-playing BM1, but this time it's the GOG version, even though I still have my old Boxed version. Purchasing the game from GOG cost me $9.99.I had missed the $4.99 sale, but no big deal. Got past the "Torn Photo"
puzzle by using the savegame. I understand that some other puzzles are more difficult than the torn photo. Haven't gotten to these yet, and I'm hoping there will be more savegames available for the game. Crossing my fingers! lol
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#1139896 - 01/28/18 05:28 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: sanford]
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Having completed and very much enjoyed BM1, I've now started BM2 smile

A much slower moving beginning to this one and the setting is nowhere near as atmospheric but I expect it will fire up soon yes

Got to !! It IS a Blck Mirror after all !! lol
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#1139912 - 01/28/18 07:21 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I finally made it to Chapter 3 in Black Mirror 1 after dying a few times.

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#1140004 - 01/30/18 12:35 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Mad, I think the original game was the most atmospheric by far, which is a big part of why it's my favorite of the trilogy. The sequels are still pretty fantastic as well, however. smile
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#1140014 - 01/30/18 04:44 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: venus]
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oldbroad .. I hope you are enjoying the game ?? smile

venus .. I do remember liking all three games but I agree that the first was the best grin
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#1140069 - 01/30/18 02:55 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Mostly I am Mad - except when I had to wander around doing nothing but enjoy the rain while I waited for a key to be made and then for my photos to be developed. Not as long for the photos thankfully since that was almost immediately after the key. smile

I know game 2 started out more slowly and some people didn't like it, but I seem to remember that I did.

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#1140087 - 01/30/18 07:59 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Yes. I liked them ALL - but the first the most smile

However, that "waiting for time to pass" in the first I originally found confusing. Thought I'd missed some vital clue or something (for ages) that would move me on !! shocked

Got to love those older ideas, eh ?? lol
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#1140099 - 01/31/18 12:03 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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There are two especially bad waits in the original - one with Richard and one later with the priest. That second one took about 40-45 minutes for me. crazy Now, I keep saved games for both of those waits, so I don't have to worry about them again. grin

I suppose they thought the waits would add "realism," but I think there are much better ways to accomplish this. Plus, I think this is one of those instances where the player would want things to be less realistic. lol


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#1140144 - 01/31/18 11:03 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Well, I understand some waiting time, but couldn't I at least have sat down to eat or something while I waited?

Argh. Slider. mad hardwall


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#1140180 - 01/31/18 05:05 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Hi Boomers.
I just found a copy of BM2 on my games shelf. Installed it and it's running perfectly on my WIN 10 PC (no serial number needed).
will start it after I finish BM1, and I WILL refer to Louis Koot's amazing walkthrough. HAPPY GAMING!

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#1140197 - 01/31/18 08:14 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: sanford]
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"Slider" grin

Is that because you just came across it - or because you just conquered it, oldbroad evil
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#1140200 - 01/31/18 08:17 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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That's the slider I use a saved game for, oldbroad.

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#1140213 - 01/31/18 09:59 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Does that mean I have a "slider puzzle' to deal with in BM2? LOL
When I mentioned Louis's walkthroughs as "Amazing", that includes MAG'S walkthroughs as well. She helped us out for many years, and I know we all appreciate her to this day.
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#1140219 - 01/31/18 10:23 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I have put several hours into the slider today and have not YET conquered it. Stand by Marian. grin

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#1140222 - 01/31/18 10:59 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Oh, it's a definite "doozie" of a slider alright eek

After a zillion tries the first time I played the game, I finally solved it.

And, needless to say, kept that save safe for evermore lol
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#1140226 - 01/31/18 11:32 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Well, I looked at MaG's walkthrough to see if I could get some guidance and saw that I had the signs in the wrong places. They were in the right order (thanks to Google) but instead of going around the border I had them going across the rows. So, while trying to rectify that, I got it solved. Yay!!

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#1140229 - 02/01/18 12:59 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Fabulous !! yay
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#1140653 - 02/05/18 10:35 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I'm getting close to the end of The Black Mirror 2 now.

Haven't been as enthralled as I was with The Black Mirror (original).

But fully intend to have a re-play of The Black Mirror 3 next yes smile

EDIT :

Started No 3 now !!!! bravo


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#1140690 - 02/05/18 04:00 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Same here, Mad,
Still playing BM1, just installed BM2, Next will be BM3, but waiting for a GOG sale to purchase BM3. HAPPY GAMING!
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#1140721 - 02/05/18 09:40 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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You made it through the second game pretty fast Mad. Hope your enthrallment returns in game 3!

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#1140725 - 02/05/18 11:44 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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As I remember, Black Mirror 3 felt more similar in atmosphere to Black Mirror 1 than part 2 did. Still nowhere near the same level, of course, but I liked it more than the second game. I did wish the villain in part 2 would have made an appearance in the third game, however, as this person was one of the more interesting characters in the series. smile
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#1140730 - 02/06/18 01:15 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Uncle Reg]
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Thanks for the tip, Uncle Reg, It's saving a lot of "clicks" using the RMB for the savegames and Loadgames
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#1140742 - 02/06/18 07:39 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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You made it through the second game pretty fast Mad. Hope your enthrallment returns in game 3!


I was able to spend more time per session doing my replay of BM2 than I could with BM1 and I eventually found there were some parts I remembered more, too yes

But I doubt it will be the same with BM3 as I don't remember as much of that at all.
Apart from, as venus, says, having a vague feeling it was a better game than BM2 !!
So I expect it will definitely take me longer grin
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#1140865 - 02/07/18 06:51 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Yeah !! BM3 is proving to be SO much more satisfying than BM2 !!

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#1140867 - 02/07/18 06:59 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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That's good to know. I just reached Willow Creek in Black Mirror 2, but my progress has been very slow. smile

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#1140874 - 02/07/18 09:31 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I just finished game 1 today. Pondering starting 2 tonight or maybe a casual game in between.

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#1140887 - 02/08/18 05:37 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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I found progress to be slow most of the way through BM2, Marian. But I did enjoy the game. Just not as much as I did BM1.
However, BM3 is cranking up to be much more to my liking grin

I nearly opted for a "rest" between games too, oldbroad, but that old Lure of Adventure sucked me in !! laugh
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#1140930 - 02/08/18 02:54 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Yes, I ended up starting the game last night. I can still play a casual, or even something else, along side. I played a Hidden Expeditions game while playing Black Mirror 1. You know, when you need to calm down...

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#1140953 - 02/08/18 08:32 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Mad, I think we all share that "addiction" for playing Adventure games, and it's "catching" as well. LOL
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#1141059 - 02/09/18 01:36 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: sanford]
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Definitely, Sanford laugh

And oldbroad ....
I, too, very often have a few games on the go at the same time - but wading through all three of these Black Mirrors I have "contained" myself this time !! lol
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#1141157 - 02/10/18 02:44 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Glad you're enjoying 3 more than 2, Mad. thumbsup
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#1141172 - 02/10/18 08:27 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: venus]
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Oh, I certainly am, venus. It's a much more engaging affair altogether yay
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#1141538 - 02/13/18 11:33 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Well I am very much liking The Black Mirror 3 !!!! thumbsup

Not remembering much of it at all from my original play, it has been like a new game for me - and is fast becoming my favourite of the series yes
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#1141542 - 02/13/18 11:56 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I liked the first one best -- the only one made by Future Games.

Of the 2nd two Black Mirror games (both made by Cranberry Productions), I liked the 3rd one a lot better. The 2nd one seemed to take half the game to get started. Despite that Lovecraft-type stories often take place in New England, I thought the depiction of New England in Black Mirror 2 was very bland and ordinary, and half the game is over before you get out of New England and get to the Black Mirror Castle environment. Even then, the atmosphere wasn't as good as in the first Black Mirror, and I think that is mainly due to the better background sound and music in the first Black Mirror.

As far as games go, the 2nd two games were more stable, and didn't have situations like getting eaten by the wolf because you'd used too many bullets earlier.

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#1141562 - 02/13/18 01:39 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Jenny100]
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Oh, I do still like the first one myself Jenny100. It is an excellent example of how a good Adventure game could play out at that time yes

I found The story in Black Mirror 2 to be soooo slow to develop and, as you say, the game was nowhere near as atmospheric early on as it could have been whistle

But the more "modern" build up and execution of the story - as done in The Black Mirror 3 - is very much to my taste grin

I think the three together, though, do still make a darn good trilogy thumbsup
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#1141609 - 02/13/18 08:38 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I appreciate that Cranberry made Black Mirror 2 and 3 as real adventure games. I just liked the first one better, and a lot of that was because of the sound design. I can appreciate that some people might like Black Mirror 2 or 3 better. I don't remember being eaten by a wolf in Black Mirror 2 or 3.

Cranberry also made Gray Matter, Mata Hari, and Lost Chronicles of Zerzura. I don't remember many people commenting on Lost Chronicles of Zerzura when it came out. I thought it was sort of like one of the Kheops games (like Secrets of Da Vinci or Nostradamus) only in 3rd person.

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#1141689 - 02/14/18 01:22 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Jenny100]
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I wasn't that keen on either Gray Matter, Mata Hari, OR Lost Chronicles of Zerzura myself when they were released - although I think I might still have two of them.

So who knows ?? I might replay those two some day laugh
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#1141694 - 02/14/18 02:05 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I still haven't played Gray Matter but I liked Mata Hari and Lost Chronicles of Zerzura.

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#1141717 - 02/14/18 04:23 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I was a beta tester for Gray Matter - while I enjoyed doing that; by the time the actual game was released I went "ugh - I can't face it again" smile
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#1141721 - 02/14/18 05:10 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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"ugh - I can't face it again"

That is what makes me wonder how people can write walkthroughs.

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#1141733 - 02/14/18 07:43 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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It's boring as heck, oldbroad! lol
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#1141768 - 02/15/18 12:39 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Interesting. I loved Gray Matter and consider it one of the better games I've played. I thought it was developed by Wizarbox, however. duh

Lost Chronicles of Zerzura was fun, but not nearly as good as the Black Mirror games. Mata Hari was frustrating for me. It had way too many mini games, and while the in between parts were okay, they weren't interesting enough to endure the numerous, annoying mini games a second time.
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#1141803 - 02/15/18 10:55 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: venus]
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Interesting. I loved Gray Matter and consider it one of the better games I've played. I thought it was developed by Wizarbox, however.

Actually I think you're right.
I was reading from a list at Mobygames
http://www.mobygames.com/company/deck-13-hamburg-gmbh

The other adventure games in that list do say Cranberry on the individual game pages, but Gray Matter does not, so I'm not sure why it's listed there.

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Lost Chronicles of Zerzura was fun, but not nearly as good as the Black Mirror games. Mata Hari was frustrating for me. It had way too many mini games, and while the in between parts were okay, they weren't interesting enough to endure the numerous, annoying mini games a second time.

I had a similar problem with the "magic" puzzles in Gray Matter. They were pretty much the same puzzle over and over, and I didn't like it the first time. The story was good though.

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#1141809 - 02/15/18 12:55 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Jenny100]
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Although I wasn't too enamoured of the three games, I didn't totally dislike them.
But I did think Gray Matter was rather repetitious rolleyes
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#1141843 - 02/15/18 10:19 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Jenny100]
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Originally Posted By: venus
Interesting. I loved Gray Matter and consider it one of the better games I've played. I thought it was developed by Wizarbox, however.

Actually I think you're right.
I was reading from a list at Mobygames
http://www.mobygames.com/company/deck-13-hamburg-gmbh

The other adventure games in that list do say Cranberry on the individual game pages, but Gray Matter does not, so I'm not sure why it's listed there.

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Lost Chronicles of Zerzura was fun, but not nearly as good as the Black Mirror games. Mata Hari was frustrating for me. It had way too many mini games, and while the in between parts were okay, they weren't interesting enough to endure the numerous, annoying mini games a second time.

I had a similar problem with the "magic" puzzles in Gray Matter. They were pretty much the same puzzle over and over, and I didn't like it the first time. The story was good though.


Thanks for the link, Jenny. That's strange that it would be listed with the Cranberry games on Moby Games.

The story in Gray Matter is what hooked me, it's true, although I thought the standard inventory puzzles were fine. I enjoyed the Daedalus side story and the puzzles that went along with it quite a bit. I do agree with you regarding the magic puzzles. I thought the idea was intriguing, but the execution could have been much better. The magic tricks were just basically following instructions from a list, which wasn't very exciting or much fun.

However, I'd take the tedious magic trick repetition over the frustration of the Mata Hari dancing quick time events and stealth train mini games any day. lol
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#1141850 - 02/15/18 11:51 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I rather enjoyed the dancing in Mata Hari. I got frustrated a few times, but I liked it. wink

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#1141857 - 02/16/18 01:03 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I forgot about those magic puzzles now that you bring them up a replay becomes a tough concept

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#1141935 - 02/16/18 04:29 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldmariner]
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O.K. A change in the verdict on the order of BM's coming up, I suspect wink

I am well on the way to finishing BM3 now and if the final chapter is as enticing as those that have gone before, this third game will definitely take over 1st place in the trilogy - for me
I have SO thoroughly enjoyed this final "episode" smile

I'm considering Woodruff and the Schnibble for my next replay. Unless I get totally tempted by Lighthouse The Dark Being, of course, which is a lurking possibility !! hamster


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#1142045 - 02/18/18 12:09 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Finished Black Mirror 2 this evening. Taking a break before starting Black Mirror 3 though. At least until tomorrow.

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#1142046 - 02/18/18 12:47 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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I hope you enjoy BM3, oldbroad yes
I certainly did !! yay
But fancy deciding to wait such a long time before you start it rotfl
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#1142069 - 02/18/18 10:55 AM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Truthfully, I want to wait longer because it's getting to be too much at one time which ends up taking enjoyment away from it, but still, I don't really want to wait too long. I am anxious to get through with Black Mirror and move on to some other replays and new plays.

I started a casual game that doesn't appear to be too long so will probably start game 3 later today. I'm glad you enjoyed it Mad. the only thing I remember about it at the moment, is the shades, which I did not like.

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#1142090 - 02/18/18 01:06 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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Hi.

Sorry !! I used the wrong "tense" in my last post, oldbroad.
I should have said "I certainly DO like it" as I'm still playing it - and am just about to start the final chapter whistle

[I'm being delayed though because at the moment I'm producing "year end" accounts for a charity school where I act as Voluntary Treasurer and I'll have to forego a fair amount of gaming time until they are finished shocked ]

A big advantage to BM3 over BM2 (for me) is that the story progresses much faster and I find that a lot more satisfactory thumbsup

Good Luck for when you get to BM3, anyway grin
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#1142228 - 02/19/18 04:55 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Started game 3 last night.

Good luck with your year end accounts Mad. Too bad they're interrupting your game time right when you're nearing the end.

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#1142243 - 02/19/18 06:31 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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The delay might be a short term saving of my sanity though, oldbroad, if what I remember of the coming up "Shades" is accurate scared

Anyway, let us know how you like YOUR replay of BM3, won't you ?? grin
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#1142517 - Yesterday at 06:10 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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Well I have entered the area of The Shades. AGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH !!!!

I had forgotten JUST how frustrating this part of the game is.
So if I make it out alive I will be holding on to the appropriate save, that's for sure scared
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#1142524 - Yesterday at 06:24 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: Mad]
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I remember getting help from MaG on the Shades and still had trouble!

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#1142526 - Yesterday at 06:33 PM Re: Current Re-Play :-) [Re: oldbroad]
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I have little doubt I, too, will need help, oldbroad. So MaG's walkthrough might be getting a good thumbing through - metaphorically speaking laugh
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