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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141302
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DRac, I am with you! I have dual authentication on everything that allows it! I just had 17 attempts to hack in my FaceBook account, I had a major attack on my itunes account and without the notifications that someone was trying to log in from a computer that isn't mine, I would have been in deep doodoo! I say we can't be too safe!


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141307
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I was actually thinking of you when I wrote that post. I know you also swear by it....


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Draclvr] #1141310
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I use ALL security options for sites where anything like credit card details are held but not necessarily at others.

And sites allowed to hold any details of that nature relating to me are VERY few.

GOG isn't one of them smile

Plus I "clear history" on both Firefox and IE before I close down my computer for the day which should help to "break some ties" ??


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141318
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Not if the website itself is hacked and you have an account there. As I said, I don't allow sites to "keep" my CC info, but I HAVE used it at GOG or Steam or other websites. As Ana says, you can't be too careful and 2 step verification is worth it to me.


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Draclvr] #1141328
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"Not if the website itself is hacked and you have an account there."

But if I don't leave any "finance" details on site, what can the hackers get think


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141331
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But if they can get into your account, how much of your other personal information can they get? Name, email, etc.??? Access to all your games? Personally, I'm not willing to take a chance. Two step verification is just far too simple to pass up a little extra security.


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Draclvr] #1141332
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I suppose so yes

But there ARE loads of places hackers can get that kind of information - if they're decent hackers !! duh


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141352
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Correct, Mad, which is why the more places you can protect yourself, the better!


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141356
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What Ana said! while my information may be out there in lots of places, having it all tidily available in one place is not acceptable for me.


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Draclvr] #1141368
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When GOG first decided to introduce this dual security option, they emailed me and invited me to try it.
So I did. And it was a total disaster. It didn't work. With the fault entirely theirs.
Plus it resulted in my being locked out of my account for several days shocked

The finale was that THEY had to take me out of the procedure and get me logged back in to the site and since then I have never bothered with their dual stuff. Nor had any security problems !!
In fact, if the archives here at Gameboomers go back to that time, it might be possible to read the long thread that was specifically devoted to the problem.

I am a member at many sites where some details of me are held - such as here at Gameboomers - and where just a normal log-in user name and password are required, and, to my knowledge, none have ever been hacked and none of my info ever stolen.
So I'm not actually sure what you mean by "having my info tidily available in one place" ??

Obviously I AM very careful about what sites I might choose to join yes


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141406
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I do 2 step also, not that hard and I want that extra safety net.


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141407
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GameBoomers doesn't hold any info on members. We do not even require real names, just a member name of their choice and email address you registered with. No addresses, no phone #'s, no nothing.


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141413
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I actually remember when you got locked out of your GOG account right after they started the two step verification. As I recall, it was a nightmare for you!

Steam had a huge hack a couple of years ago and users information was stolen is one instance.

I may have a username and password at places like GB. But at places like GOG or Steam, they have a lot more information in my account than places like GB or Mystery Manor. And sure, I tell them to not retain my credit card information, but how do I know for sure??

I can understand why you don't use it - I probably wouldn't either! But I would much rather take an extra 60 seconds to be safe rather than sorry.


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141418
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Hi

I'm getting a bit confused here.....Naturaly I to have a gog.com account but I don't have that two-step thing there activated. In fact I have deactive it and I can not see what's the harm in that. Gog do not have any information about me that could harm me if they are hacked. Gog only knows my username and my password. Gog doesn't now my real name, doesn't now my address and it doesn't now my bank info, at least I never told them.

When I buy a game at Gog.com I pay it with Paypall and I do not have a lot of money stashed there, just enough to buy the game. The worst that could happen is that hackers steal my games from my gog library, but I have already download them and keep them on a safe external drive. Once in a while I check my gog library to see if there are any updates or patches for any of the games I bought there, and until now all of my games are still there.

So, I don't see any reason to activate that two-step thing. Anaway's I don't use there Galaxy thing either because it messed up my computer totaly when it accidentaly get installed through a gog game I bought recently....but that problem was over after I get rid of that Galaxy thing

I also have a Steam account but I hardly used it...I'm a profound Steam Hater, but sometimes you can't without it

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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141423
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And that's why GOG and other places give us a choice. Not everyone wants to use two-step verification... to each their own! However, I am firmly in Ana's camp and I want to take whatever precautions I can to prevent ANY of my accounts from being hacked, no matter what information is there.

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Drac, I am with you! I have dual authentication on everything that allows it! I just had 17 attempts to hack in my FaceBook account, I had a major attack on my itunes account and without the notifications that someone was trying to log in from a computer that isn't mine, I would have been in deep doodoo! I say we can't be too safe!


I've had to recover FB accounts for two people and they ended up having to change email addresses because the hacker obtained access to their email and was sending out all kinds of spam and pleas for money. If nothing else, it's just a huge pain to have to recover an account from anywhere if it's hacked...


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Draclvr] #1141428
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I can only reiterate that my credit card details are retained by only two or three major sites at the most and have been safely held by those sites for years now.

[But not by GOG and certainly not by Steam .. I left Steam years ago.]

Plus .. None of the sites who DO hold my info offer dual security log-in procedures but happily, so far, none of them have been hacked.

Nor am I a member of any social media places such as Facebook, Twitter etc..

And for making purchases on-line I mostly use PayPal which I consider to be one of the best.

The very few times someone has attempted to fraudulently use my ID, my bank has notified me immediately and prevented any transaction from taking place and I have then also immediately changed my password at the relevant site !!

Obviously NO site can be regarded as bomb proof but the one computer of mine that does have internet access is as well protected as it can be.

It's SO easy to become paranoid about security !!

And are we still "on topic" ???? woozy


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141431
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I'm not sure why people are recommending Mad use GOG's two-step when it
locked her out of her account.

Steam is going to be much more of a target than GOG. If someone breaks into a GOG account, they can download the person's games. If they're smart, they won't change the person's password because it's better for them if the account owner never knows about the break-in. If they do change the password, locking out the owner, the owner will contact GOG and eventually get control back and change the password, locking out the thief.

If someone breaks into a Steam account, they can sell any of the owner's virtual items associated with MMO's. Some of these virtual items sell for absurd amounts of money, into the thousands of dollars. Even if the victim doesn't own any virtual items, the thief can use the victim's account for illegal transactions, which often gets the account banned by Steam, though the owner of the account had nothing to do with the transactions, has no knowledge of them, and has luck of the draw getting their account back after the banning. Once banned, the victim loses access to all their games and can't play any except the relative few that are DRM-free once downloaded (and were previously downloaded).

Considering the amount of money that can be invested in a Steam account beyond the initial cost of the games, I think Steam is remiss in not allowing physical tokens for security -- in other words, real security.

SMS and email notifications are poor security.
There is no verification that the intended recipient even receives the message, let alone that it hasn't been intercepted along the way.
Read about SS7 vulnerabilities and why NIST has deprecated use of SMS for authentication.

GOG keeps re-enabling the "two-step" authentication on my account, despite that I disabled it and consider "two-step" to be near worthless. I wouldn't mind using a physical token -- something that actually increased security -- but SMS/email notifications only increase the chance of being locked out of my own account should my ISP decide the notifications are spam.

Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141438
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I don't think anyone is recommending Mad use two-step. In fact, I agreed with her that I probably wouldn't use it either if I had her experience - just commenting on why I CHOOSE to use it. As I said earlier, it's a choice we all make for ourselves. I'm just glad that GOG gives us a choice, but it sounds like they aren't listening to you!


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141455
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Just to bring you up to date on my efforts with ScummVM - (and perhaps rescue the original topic lol )

I successfully installed MYST and Shivers from their original discs, and got so engrossed with MYST that I finished the game.

Then, undaunted, I installed Lighthouse, making (I thought) the recommended name-changes to some of the files.
The odd thing I noticed was, after copying disc 2, several of the files were renamed, and upon starting the game it yielded a complicated error message. In spite of that, the game ran for a bit, then didn't. I attempted to correct the arbitrary name-changes, but made things worse.

So - I deleted the files and started over. Copied disc one, then created a separate folder and copied disc two into that new folder. This gave me the ability to rename the resource files, and monitor what got merged and what got overwritten in the process of joining the two folders into one. Success! woot

Thanks to all who helped, and please wish me luck when I try the biggie - the Beast Within comes on not two but SIX discs.

Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141460
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Thank you, Tally Ho! for your efforts and for rescuing the original topic!


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Re: Lighthouse: The Dark Being Now on GOG [Re: Marian] #1141484
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