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#114837 - 06/15/04 10:30 AM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
mszv Offline
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Hi all,
Kirkdnose, I hope you correspond with the mod of your choice to get more information on what went on, if that's possible. I think you are a brave person for bringing this up, and I admire you for it. You don't want a perfectly innocent post you did to result in someone being banned. I hope you get your answers, and I for one would very much like you to stay and continue to post! I like it when people question stuff, and I think that's the sign of being a good gameboomers member.

I like it here quite a lot, and I'm honored that my little write-up on Uru was featured here. I really mean that - thank you gameboomers! However, I am not into "complete and utter trust". I also don't agree with all the decisions of the mods - never have, never will. Being here doesn't mean we have to agree with everything that people say or that gameboomers does. I happen to like it here, there are good people (including the moderators) and interesting discussions, and wow, everyone here really knows their games! That's why I stay.

I also think that no board is perfect, including a different board where I'm a forum moderator. Hey, I like the board I moderate, but I don't agree with all their decisions either!

When Gaterlaw (very good message) said "have a little faith", that's what I took it as. Another way I would put it is "give them the benefit of the doubt". That's what I'm going to do, but I don't recommend you do that, since you were involved. Please talk to the mods, and see if you can get an answer, even if it's not shared with the rest of us. That is what I would want, if the same thing happened to me.

I don't know how it works here, but when a problem or issue happens on the board where I'm a moderator, sometimes it's tough to know what to do. Maybe all the mods here always agree on everything, but on the board I moderate we talk about stuff, and work our way to a decision, even if we all don't agree. On the board I moderate, it's also tough to know how much to publish, when something happens, which I think is what gaterlaw was referring to. Now maybe it's not like that at gameboomers, but maybe it is - people imperfectly working their way through an issue, and imperfectly doing the communication. I also think that no decision is perfect, sometimes it's the best one can do. That's how I think of it.

I am so, so glad that this topic came up. I welcome this openness at gameboomers, and I hope it continues. It makes me feel more a part of the community.

Thanks for reading this.
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#114838 - 06/15/04 10:35 AM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
Bruce Fielder Offline
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If Krkdnose has such strong feelings about this board and how it is moderated, it seems to me that he should take these feelings and discuss them directly with the moderators he has problems with. Frankly, I'm getting tired of his issues being aired in the public boards. Of course, the fact that the moderators allow his postings is a direct contradiction of this being a "1984 Big Brother" entity.
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#114839 - 06/15/04 10:54 AM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
Mad Online   content
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Posts: 22753
Loc: United Kingdom
Hi smile

I've only seen the aftermath of whatever it was that went on here but I have to say I think "whatever it was" has been more than well and truly "discussed" ??

Surely the bottom line has to be that if a person wants to be a "Boomer" and therefore part of this "Community", then he/she must abide by whatever rules the Boomer Mods use to run the site.

If a person is not prepared to do this, then isn't it better that he/she attend a Forum elsewhere which has the kind of rules he/she might prefer ??

Then we can all get back to posting the kind of threads this board was designed to display.

Cheers.

Mad wave
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#114840 - 06/15/04 11:11 AM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
Magicscroll Offline
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Hello mszv, I agree that openness is a welcome element for Gameboomers. I consider openness to be based on trust and faith. Being open is caring for the other person's feelings before your own. How else could I take other people's opinions? I can only control my own openness, not others.

I have different aspects about trust. I don't believe in partial trust. It would not be trust if tainted by doubt. Add a drop of lighter fluid into a pint of water. The water becomes an undrinkable solution.

I think it would help krkdnose if he/she trusted the MODs and inquired matters with grace. It's only fair for all, especially when answers are so wanted.
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#114841 - 06/15/04 11:34 AM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
JMK Offline
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Registered: 08/19/02
Posts: 2582
Loc: California
I've been here on the board for a while now and am a veteran of other boards, not related to gaming. I must say this one is the best moderated I have ever participated in.

One thing all the boards shared in common, even though some weren't able to achieve it, was not airing problems publicly. They ALL preferred that if a person has questions about what happened that they email the moderator concerned, directly.

Going over and over and over the same problem in public tends to start flame wars, something I definitely don't want to see here at GB. There is no reason for a moderator to publicly announce what happened between them and another member. It's private, between the two of them, unless someone emails them and wants further details. To post it on the forum could possibly embarrass the people involved. There is just no reason to do it.

I'm not always happy with decisions here, but, as people have mentioned, this is a "private" board, and if I (we) want to remain here, I (we) go by the rules. The rules are made to keep the peace, and I'm grateful for the well done job our mods do.

Jean
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#114842 - 06/15/04 11:57 AM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
mszv Offline
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Good posts, and I'm sorry for those who thought the discussion was continued needlessly. Hey, I'm stopping! Contributing was probably selfish of me, but I really liked having my say. To be fair, it doesn't happen that often, and sometimes working through an issue (not sharing the secret stuff) is a good thing.

Kirkdnose - I do hope you talk to the mods.

OK - I'm really, really stopping!

About the final expansion pack for Uru (Path of the Shell) - have you seen the latest movies (yeah I know spoilers) on Gamespot? They are so good, and (spoiler here) - there's swimming!

Charitably and kindly,
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#114843 - 06/15/04 01:00 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
Linds Offline
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Registered: 03/04/02
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Loc: Westchester, NY
My feelings- "Give it a rest already." There are more important things in this world to dwell on.
I love coming to this board and think the Mods are wonderful people for running this board and VOLUNTEERING their time.
That's all.
Susan

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#114844 - 06/15/04 01:20 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
krkdnose Offline
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Registered: 04/06/04
Posts: 151
Quote:
Originally posted by Mad:
Surely the bottom line has to be that if a person wants to be a "Boomer" and therefore part of this "Community", then he/she must abide by whatever rules the Boomer Mods use to run the site.
That would be a wonderful argument if people knew exactly what these rules are. Just what are these rule violations that get people banned??

Quote:
Originally posted by Linds:
My feelings- "Give it a rest already." There are more important things in this world to dwell on.
I love coming to this board and think the Mods are wonderful people for running this board and VOLUNTEERING their time.
That's all.
Susan
That's really easy to say isn't it, since you're still ALLOWED to come to these forums and give your opinion.

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#114845 - 06/15/04 01:35 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
nickie Offline
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Magicscroll, you write with such beautiful imagery, and it is exciting to read how you not only play the game, but enter the world of that adventure yourself.It is always interesting to read your well thought out posts.
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#114846 - 06/15/04 01:36 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
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KRKDNOSE - Oh Come on! Enough is Enough. Let it go....move on.
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#114847 - 06/15/04 01:44 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
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Soooo...Has everyone seen my new Nosey Questions in Mixed Bag? rolleyes
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#114848 - 06/15/04 01:56 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
krkdnose Offline
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Registered: 04/06/04
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Quote:
Originally posted by BrownEyedTigre:
KRKDNOSE - Oh Come on! Enough is Enough. Let it go....move on.
I thank you for your opinion, but respectfully disagree.


And I have to agree with nickie, Magicscroll. You do write beautifully smile

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#114849 - 06/15/04 01:57 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
BrownEyedTigre Online   happy
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FriedMonkey - rotfl
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#114850 - 06/15/04 02:00 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
friedmonky Offline
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So, ummmm, errrr, .........Seen any good movies lately? <img border="0" alt="[yawn]" title="" src="graemlins/yawn.gif" />
Rusty wink
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#114851 - 06/15/04 02:36 PM Re: Adventuring needs guiding, gaming needs MODs
Namma Offline
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Rusty you are one in a million! thumbsup

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