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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115902
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Just to clarify, I meant monetary value in my initial post. laugh
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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115903
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Just curious, what is the difference between someone who buys games and keeps them and a game collector? Seems to me that there is a very thin line between the two. I guess it all has to do with how you look at it. wink
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Yes, but now we have hijacked your thread to Cuba, where your Capitalist ideas of worth have no meaning, gringo!

Muahahahahahahaha lol


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No, this one hasn't been hijacked yet. laugh
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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115906
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Quote:
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Just curious, what is the difference between someone who buys games and keeps them and a game collector? Seems to me that there is a very thin line between the two. I guess it all has to do with how you look at it. wink
Rusty
I think there is a difference between someone who buys games and keeps them, intending to play or replay them someday, and someone who buys them because they're speculating on the "Collector's market" and holding onto things only because they think they will increase in value.

Re: What is your most valuable game? #115907
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So, a collector is someone who buys games with the intent to unload them someday for a profit and the other is someone who buys games and keeps them forever, never thinking about making money? This makes sense to me. If this is true, then I am not a collector. I buy games, keep them, sometimes replay them, and never want to sell them. Thanks for helping to clarify this for me Jenny100. laugh
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P.S. - However, I am interested in the worth of games even though I don't want to sell them. I get a charge out of finding out that for example, a game I bought a year ago for $20.00 might now be going for 4 times that amount on ebay. I guess I am just weird. rolleyes


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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115908
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I also collect games, and my reason is because I enjoyed them so much, I want to keep playing them over and over. If I get a rare game, and I played it and I don't like it, I would sell it. My purpose of collecting games and keeping them forever, is for me to play them. Some I have bought and doesn't work correctly on my computer, and I don't care how rare it is I would sell it or trade it. That is my biggest enjoyment, playing them. I don't like, I get rid of, I love I keep.

And I have two that I think are valuable.
Obsidian-Retail box sealed with Strategy Guide, which I haven't played yet, but will. And if I don't like it I will sell it.

and Sanitarium-Retail box with 1996 Gamecomputer game with demo inside. Which I plan to play as well. And if I don't like it I will sell too.


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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115909
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Iam not a collector but I have one game that took me so long to find and when I did it was in mint condition and all that other good stuff. I have yet to finish Orion Burger but I have no plans to sell or trade it any way soon.


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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115910
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None of the games I've saved were done so out of expectation of future monetary reward. Of those I have saved, I've done so for one of three reasons.

1. I flat-out loved the game, and had expectations of replaying it on several occasion. Timelapse and Post Mortem are examples of that genre.

2. I had some personal involvement with the author(s), and thus had an emotional attachment to the game. I consider myself to be a good friend of Josh Mandel. (despite the fact that we argue occasionally) And so, everything from Freddy Pharkus to Callahan's Crosstime Saloon sit on the shelves.

3. This category constitutes games that I had person involvement in on a real level. That means anything from editing a walkthrough to managing a game-specific thread on a CompuServe forum. Shivers, Lighthouse and Black Dahlia are examples.

I guess there is a fourth category. That is games that were either so bad that I couldn't get anyone to buy them from me, or games I bought so cheap that they have no resale value also sit on my shelves. Qin is an example of the former. Amber is an example of the latter.


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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115911
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Am I the only one who liked Qin, then? I found it fascinating, once I realized that the magical floating I Ching yarrow sticks were just there for enjoyment and not a puzzle I couldn't figure out. lol

Of course, that game was one example of "grainy" 640x480 graphics I have to concede to Scott Osbourne. frown


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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115912
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Actually I rather enjoyed Qin but I'm a history buff (it was my major in college) so I tend to enjoy the educational games like Qin.


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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115913
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Quote:
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Am I the only one who liked Qin, then? I found it fascinating, once I realized that the magical floating I Ching yarrow sticks were just there for enjoyment and not a puzzle I couldn't figure out. lol

Of course, that game was one example of "grainy" 640x480 graphics I have to concede to Scott Osbourne. frown
BacardiJim, I have Qin loaded, and I am at the very beginning, the review I found very interesting, I let you know if I like this game or not.

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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115914
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Syberia, The Longest Journey, and The Beast Within are my most valuable because I never tired of those games. I also have a soft spot for both Simon the Sorcerer 1 and 2 and Discworld 1 and 2.

P.S. Count all the Monkey Island games too.


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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115915
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I have quite of few of the "very hard to find" big bucks games, but to me my combo 'Zork Nemesis/Zork Grand Inquisitor DVD' has to be a winner.


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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115916
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Quote:
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So, a collector is someone who buys games with the intent to unload them someday for a profit and the other is someone who buys games and keeps them forever, never thinking about making money? This makes sense to me. If this is true, then I am not a collector. I buy games, keep them, sometimes replay them, and never want to sell them. Thanks for helping to clarify this for me Jenny100. laugh
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I don't agree. I have no intention of selling my core collection. Other than the extras, spares and games I no longer want, I fully intend to keep my collection forever. It's a collection. I am a collector. It doesn't mean I'm going to sell at some point. That said, everyone has their price.

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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115918
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Scout,
Not sure how you disagree with a question but, anyway, this quote of mine was a question in response to Jenny100. I was wondering what the difference is between someone who buys games with the intent to make a profit someday and someone who buys games, replays them, and will never sell or trade them away. I was wondering which one would be considered the "collector". I think that word means different things to different people. Some would say that the person who buys games with the intent to make a profit someday is the collector.
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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115919
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Rusty, I think that technically makes them an "investor." wink


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I love my games, and would never part with it. But, I think the most valuable game I have is the longes journey (in Norwegian).

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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115921
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friedmonkey,

It seemed to me that your question was a statement in disguise, a sort of rhetorical question. That was what I was responding to. No biggie...

If you really are asking, IMO a person who buys games with an intent to make money someday, is as BJ says, an investor first. A person who buys games with an intent to possess only, whether a player or not, is a collector. It's all gray area though as collectors start selling and investors start keeping and like you say, there's the reward of seeing a game suddenly increase in value. I do find it interesting that people who avidly buy and maintain and store their games insist they are not collectors. I'd say anyone who tosses the boxes can make that claim, otherwise, if they keep the item intact, never sell it, actively pursue more and more purchases, I'm not so sure they aren't really collectors.

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Scout,
My question was meant as a clarification of what Jenny100 said prior. Like you said, no biggie.
After giving this much thought (do I have too much time on my hands today?) I tend to agree with you. If taken at face value, the word "collector" to me, means aquiring games, holding on to them, and building a collection. In contrast, someone who actively buys, sells, and trades games would not be a collector. They would be an investor, a trader, a dealer, or something along those lines.
Wow, it's amazing how many different meanings this word has in the gaming world.
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Re: What is your most valuable game? #115923
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Well, what I said was

Quote:

I think there is a difference between someone who buys games and keeps them, intending to play or replay them someday, and someone who buys them because they're speculating on the "Collector's market" and holding onto things only because they think they will increase in value.
You could call either one a "collector" since they both "collect." But they have different priorities. Someone who buys games mainly for playing purposes probably isn't going to care that much if the game is "mint in box" as long as it's playable. Someone who is thinking about the "Collector's market value" is probably more concerned about the cosmetic appearance of the game box and its contents than in whether the floppies are still good.

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But, how can someone who aquires games just to turn around and make a profit be considered a collector? They really aren't collecting anything. They are just like a middleman, a stopping off point for the games. Boy, this sure is more of a gray area than I thought. I guess it boils down to what the word "collector" means to you. It means different things to different people.
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I am a game player, first. I will turn around and sell games when I am done with them, but I'm not really concerned with making a profit. (Though I usually do... I write great eBay. lol ) However, if I don't make a profit, no biggie. We just use the money to do nothing but turn around and buy more games. The majority of games we both buy and sell are used. We make just enough to support our habit. We are part of the teeming masses that play the games and then keep them circulating for others to play.

Does the fact that we resell games, usually at a profit, make us "investors?" I don't think so. It just makes us good bargain hunters when we buy the game for a below-market price in the first place. wink Regardless, our primary purpose is to play the game and pass it on.

Is this attitude that unusual? I don't see many other folks saying the same thing. Are we freaks?


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