Im on chapter 4 of this excelent game and I have just two in my party beside me. A dwarf and a human
in the quest "the missing magasters" I need an elf, in chapter 4 is there any chance of adding one

No idea, but if I can find the information somewhere I will post again.

I think you're looking for Sebille - a beautiful elf, rogue companion that can help

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merrick,

I've only been dipping in and out of the game, but so far I have to agree with you, it is shaping up to be an excellent game. I took a chance and put it in my darkside list, because of what I've seen so far. I'm a little on the "once bitten, twice shy" vibe due to my disappointment from InXile's less than stellar delivery of Planescape. From the little I've played so far in DOS2, it makes me wish I would have supported Larian Studios kickstarter for this game rather than the $ I dropped on InXile.

Anyway, glad you're enjoying the game. I may be asking you for pointers soon

Hey, this might be one game I will buy. I've loved all Larian's games, although life intervened during my playthrough of the "original" Original Sin and I never finished it.

I just bought this and think I'll dive in after my second game of Prey is finished. How is everyone liking it?

I haven't played it, but I have heard great things about it. I hope you enjoy the game!

I've just started and I'm already getting annoyed.

I'm finding that the camera angle is so awkward that I often can't see the enemy I am fighting, which makes any kind of tactical decision impossible. I keep thinking that I should be able to move the camera around so that I can get a better angle, like you could in other top-down games, but this one seems to be set in stone.

Her's another example; beside the lifeboat in t he opening chapter, I am supposed to use a ladder to get back down to the hold. But when I click on it, the tattered sail of the boat swings into the fore, obscuring everything else, so I can't do anything.

Is this a sing of things to come, or am I missing something here?

There seems to be a lot of discussion about the camera angles on various forums (Steam, GOG, etc.).

I found this thread here which might be useful.

Thanks, Marian. I hate having to resort to a mod for a game right out of the box, so to speak, but it may come to that.

I seem to be finding posts that suggest there is camera function built into the game, but I don't see it anywhere. It seems odd that camera functionality wouldn't be built into such an ambitious game, though.

I agree that it seems odd and I would be surprised if the camera functionality was not there.

Maybe Trail Mystic will be able to weigh in on this one.

I finally worked out how to use it. It's a bit complicated at first because there is so much else to work on...like how to level up? I gained a level but there doesn't seem to be a screen where I can select skills, etc. when I level up..

If you go into your inventory, your character sheet opens by default to the left. The icons over your character's image will have little green plus (+) signs above them that indicate you have points available that you may or may not be able to distribute. The ability to distribute your points is level dependent and you may not be able to use them until you have enough points built up. Skills are found in the same area. They don't make leveling too easy, I'll agree there. The camera is odd, reminds me very much of Neverwinter Nights 2 before they released updates. I would prefer a "chase-camera" that would stay over my shoulder as I move, but here the camera operates independently from the player movement through use of the WASD, Delete and Page Down Keys. I've been going through and re-mapping the key sets. Luckily my keyboard has built in macro-keys that I can leverage as well. The controls and character features are good, but the default key binds for some of them don't make sense to me.

Other than the odd mechanics, how are you enjoying the game hagatha? Now that I'm getting used to the controls, it's getting easier. Oh, and make sure to talk to as many folks as you can, you get xp points from the encounters and sometimes need every bit you can get, because leveling is not given freely in this game. They don't make it easy, that's for sure. Also, be prepared to die during some of said encounters. You really do need to talk to people, but I learned the hard way that in the early levels sometimes it's better to use diplomacy and bribery to get through a nasty encounter rather than ending up a steaming pile of flesh.

I'm finding the first chapter of the game to be punishingly difficult, quite frankly.

I don't mind this in a game overall, but I dislike it when games expect players to enjoy hairy-chested breast thumping and knuckle-dragging right out of the starting gate. People need time to work out the controls and menus before they start fighting multiple tough enemies with a level 2 group, especially if they've chosen a mage or rogue character. There has to be a way to enjoy the more intellect and finesse-based characters at the start of a game, too.

The other thing I object to from the perspective of the first chapter is the the game map is cluttered beyond belief with people and places, making it very difficult to navigate and find anything, especially given the odd camera controls, but strangely there are very few actual quests to complete to get your levels up. I can see locations that I haven't been to yet, but after struggling for a couple hours to find the path to them I gave up.

This game has all the hallmarks of a wonderful experience, given the cool character skill options, but I question the choice of difficulty level at such an early phase of the game (seriously -- those three alligators that can kill you with a swipe of the tail? What's with that at level 2?). It's going to put people off, no doubt about it. We need time to explore, learn the ropes, level up a couple of times, and get to know this new world. As it is I see no way of leveling up, which kind of puts a damper on the proceedings.

Obviously as I get going I'll become more comfortable with the controls, etc., but right now I feel as though I'll never make it to level 3.

Agreed, the camera is a difficult issue to overcome. I know what you are saying about overpowered foes at such an early level. My first death Anyway, it's as you said, the game has all the makings of an amazing RPG, but they need to continue to work on the level difficulty balance, have more complete tutorial notes (e.g. none currently mention that you can't level attributes with the points you earn until they reach a specific total for each level) and fix the camera. I'm giving them a chance though, because of what I mentioned earlier, that the release is very similar to NWN 2, which was horrible when released. An awful camera and terrible game killing defects. They fixed it though, and for a short, but glorious time, it worked amazing until they released Mask of the Betrayer and that stupid Spirit Meter. Are you taking notes Larian? One hopeful thing is that they've been releasing large updates, so it seems they are addressing something on a regular basis. They have an open code base that's allowing mods, but it seems way to early after release to start employing those considering the aforementioned updates that are being released fairly often. Unless they are adopting Bethesda's model; release a half finished game with tons of querks and bugs, make the code open source and "allow" modders to fix it for free. I am doing better since I've gotten better armor and weapons, but I don't want to say how many times I died or how long it took me to get there...

Seriously, this is getting really frustrating. The last 4 new games I've purchased, 3 of which I backed have been disappointing.

I have reached the point where,at level 4, I am finally able to get around and take on some enemies with at least SOME finesse. That nasty Griff guy is toast. And I was awfully happy to be able to tell Emmie that Buddie misses her, even though it made her sad.

Those three card players. I talked my way out of trouble the first time, then slapped down that magical card the second time and they had to give me the entire pot. I'm thinking maybe I'll take them out next time.

The character leveling is a really nice feature, though I have to say I'm sort of guessing what skills to pick. My main character is a rogue/assassin type with a couple of really decent combat strategies. Not sure about my posse yet, but I'm trying to at least create a sort of rogue/mage/fighter/ranger party, with an eye to handing out some cleric spells later on. .

The character skills and available attribute adjustments are one of the things that keep me going too. It's nice to see Larien continuing a "traditional" character development tree when so many games have been dumbing-down that aspect of the game. I may be a little too hard on them, only because my expectations have been messed with in the last couple of games I've played. The game does feel much more polished than Bard's Tale and combat is a little more intuitive, once you figure out the key bindings than Deadfire. I also like the heavily character driven dialogue. They keep the choices true to the alignment you want to pick without getting overly wordy. That's kind of an art form that's hard to hit. Torment is a good example, the have a great story, but they took the dialogue way to far to make up for the game play issues. I enjoy good banter and a depthy story, but you have to put the limiters on to keep it enjoyable. Larian seems to be doing a good job at all of that.

I am enjoying the game a lot more now. My main character has a terrific one-two combat sequence that really nails it -- a jump-and-Backstab move, followed by Sucker Punch. Usually just one or two more stabs and buckets are kicked. I'll be interested to see if that strategy evolves as the game progresses. I'm winging it with others, though Fane is yer basic wizard type, so he's fairly easy to level.

I'm playing as the Red Prince, and I think I fell back on his flame attack too much, but the effect when he does it is really cool.

I have noticed some bugs, quite annoying ones that require reloading and have resulted in the loss of equipment. The first is that equipment I have bought is somehow not in my inventory when I go out of the merchant screen. Just not there, in anyone's inventory. Then I reload, and hey, presto, the merchant now has different stuff, and not nearly as good as that which I bought previously.

The second one is that sometimes when I enter combat, one or more party members no longer have any of their skills showing up in their skill quickslots, which makes combat impossible.

Other than that, I'm blundering through, not really knowing what it is I'm supposed to be doing. I wiped out a few of those magisters inside the fort mostly because they're evil (nothing to do with wanting all their stuff, no, no, never that). I can't see anything else to do so I'm going out the back door of the fort now because it seems to be the only way to get to the eastern part of the map. More dead magisters, I suppose.

I've hit a bug during combat where after equipping a new weapon, I'm unable to move it to the hot bar and cannot right-click use either. Of course equipping and un-equipping burns action points so, your turn is used and accomplishes nothing. It's like putting your sword into your sheath, pulling out a dagger, putting it away, pulling out your sword again and then telling your attacker, "right then, go ahead and kill me now. I just lost a turn, I'm on fire and can't use any other attacks so no use in going on." Other than that, I actually am enjoying the game.

I'm pretty sure I've messed up many of the Fort Joy quests by blundering into the Fort from the dungeons below, discovering some nasty goings-on, and killing everyone. I am supposed to find Magister Yarrow to give her her father's ring, but since I can't find her I guess I must have taken her out, too, though I should be able to find her corpse.

There is obviously a finesse way of doing this section, but whatever. I did find the underground boat way of escaping, too, but then I'd have to leave behind way too much loot. I hope attacking the Fort doesn't mess up my game later on, but I honestly could not see any other way of getting past this area and anyway, there's always a second play-through once I know what's what.

Also, I figure that if I wasn't supposed to go after the Magisters, they wouldn't have been equipped with such good gear.

When game mechanics are more complex and quests challenging, I tend to look at my first game as a throw-away. I even name my saves for the initial game as "First Try" or "First Go." In a way, the beginning difficulty level reminds me how I felt when starting up Morrowind and getting killed by that caterpillar thing within the first 10 minutes of the game

Is there a game save limit? I just finished the SECOND run through a tough battle and definitely saved afterwards, (not a quick save, either), but when I try to reload, the save just isn't there.

Anyway, I'm ploughing my way through. I think if there's one thing I would say about the game difficulty, it is that the easiest level is too easy, with a huge jump in difficulty for the next level of difficulty. Not that this is a problem for my first run through the game. Now that I have decent equipment and know a bit more about the game's mechanics, It's a lot more fun, with some of the little quirks that i remember from the original Divine Divinity. I can see this becoming a favourite.

EDIT: You got killed by a caterpillar? I vaguely remember that the cow landed on me. Or maybe it landed beside me and scared me to death. I always loved finishing one game at level 70 and then starting a new one, and forgetting that at level one you can't one-shot a crab, which then laughs at your puny strength and eats you for breakfast.