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#116473 - 01/28/05 08:00 PM What is happening to Adventure Games?
SOLVER Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
Posts: 915
Loc: Elk Grove Il.
I am totally frustrated with today's Adventure
Games...in scanning the posts in so many of our
forums I see the same problem popping up in the
fact that members have difficulty installing or
playing most Games and not just 'older' Games...

I would think that with all the sophisticaction
in the Computer world you would not have to re-
hab an entire Computer just to play a Game that
happens to be a couple of years old...
Is there not a method that would permit [with a
minimum of effort]someone to bring a Game up to
speed...
Or perhaps we are left at the mercy of the Game
developers...it's almost as if no two Games can
be installed the same way...
What do you think?...SOLVER

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#116474 - 01/28/05 08:54 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
qadventuregames Offline
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Registered: 10/12/04
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Hi Solver,

I guess I'm fortunate that I kept my old computers so that I have a wide variety of operating systems available for "older" games, 95, 98, 98SE in addition to my XP SP1.

I must say that all the recent games I have purchased have installed on my XP PRO SP1 computer. I don't seem to have the problems that a lot of the other posts seem to have. I don't know what the difference could be, except that when I purchase a computer, I get a Lot of ram up-front, the fastest machine available at that time, and really good video and audio cards. When I install a game, I also check the game site for available patches and read the "Read Me" file for helpful tips.
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#116475 - 01/28/05 09:36 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
SOLVER Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
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Hello 'qadventuregames'...

You are the unique exception...I mean in having
the variety of systems available to you...
I was refering to the guy or gal who drops into
their local 'Best Buy' and picks out a new title,
takes it home and attempts to install it on their
[one] Computer...thats where I think there should
be some possible installation uniformity..SOLVER

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#116476 - 01/28/05 09:45 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
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#116477 - 01/28/05 10:09 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
qadventuregames Offline
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Hi Solver,

I know I'm really fortunate to have many operating systems available.

However, the general public (not necessarily me) seems to want more and more from their games (more graphics, more speed, etc.). If they have not upgraded their computer system accordingly, they must read the game requirements carefully before buying the games. The requirements are not just a suggestion they are a reality. If the computer doesn't meet or exceed those requirements, you are in for trouble.

I guess the only way to have every game be uniform, would be to never have any changes and/or improvements. We would still be playing DOS text games. Which might not necessarily be bad, but I guess I'll take some glitches to advance.
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#116478 - 01/29/05 06:00 AM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
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Like qadventuregames I use XP Pro SP1 on the main gaming system at home. I've not had serious problems installing a new game in ages. I do still have 98SE on that machine as an option, but haven't booted into 98 in ages.

If you want to play the 'A'-grade games as soon as they hit the shelves, always check the minimum requirements. Sorry, top rate games often require top rate machinery, because they attempt to get the most out of the current state of the art in graphics/sound/media technologies available at the time of writing.

It's as simple as 'Buyer beware'. Know what you've got, read what the game requires, and there should be no problem.

Gremlin

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#116479 - 01/29/05 07:32 AM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
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Registered: 05/04/02
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Loc: Kentwood, Left my heart in New...
I also have multiple computers with different OS's.(From dos to xp) And I still have trouble getting some old games to run on the OS they were made for. So I gather this is an old problem that will be around as long as there are computers, OS's, and games.
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#116480 - 01/29/05 10:05 AM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
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Registered: 12/01/03
Posts: 1337
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This has always been and always will be a problem. I think it's actually LESS of a problem now than it was 15 or 20 years ago when some of us were playing text adventures. Then we had to track down the Atari, Amiga, Apple or C64/C128 version of a game to play and we were paying major big bucks for the privilege - like $50 a game. Then we hoped and prayed we could get it to run with our sound cards, etc.

At least now we can start out with just 2 real decisions - PC or Mac - and many games are hybrids of those. XP at least makes the attempt by giving us compatibility mode so we've got a shot at it. Then, thanks to technology we can find patches and things like DOSBOX on the internet to help us further. Last but not least we have access to amazing places like this forum and others and manufactures via the net.

Yeah, I agree that it would be great to buy a game and put it in the drive and play it with no worries or cares about equipment. It's so frustrating when you have to upgrade to play newer games. That's usually when I sit back and play the older games (there's only about a million)and eventually upgrade to a newer system about every 3-5 years. Come to think of it, that's also why I have 5 working computers with different versions of Windows, soundcards, etc. Oops slapforehead

happy trails,

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#116481 - 01/29/05 10:33 AM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
ron.etti Offline
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Registered: 06/10/01
Posts: 1345
Loc: McClure P.A. USA.
HEAR HEAR,,I think Johnboy is right.
I hate to agree but a long as there ard more then one
computer company you will have this........

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#116482 - 01/29/05 12:15 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
SOLVER Offline
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Registered: 01/24/04
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Loc: Elk Grove Il.
I apologize to one and all if I gave the
impression that I didn't see much difference
between a Windows 95 and an XP system...
My mini-tirade was aimed mainly at what it takes
to complete 'Return to Mysterious Island'and then
try to lnstall 'Atlantis-the lost tales'...

Must it not be so complicated?...SOLVER

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#116483 - 01/29/05 01:05 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
Bonnie Offline
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Registered: 08/13/04
Posts: 1723
Loc: Neptune,NJ
I have to admit-I have a computer that plays both older games and the newer ones-but I'm like qadventures-when I buy computers-I create a computer based on the things I know I'll need-the best video card I can buy-lots of RAM-etc-so I know it will last for a few years-I've had my present system 4 years and still have no problems-
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#116484 - 01/29/05 01:16 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
Jenny100 Offline
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Registered: 10/24/00
Posts: 39196
Loc: southeast USA
Quote:
Originally posted by SOLVER:

My mini-tirade was aimed mainly at what it takes
to complete 'Return to Mysterious Island'and then
try to lnstall 'Atlantis-the lost tales'...
Thing is, it doesn't take a top of the line computer to run those two games. SOLVER's computer should have run them with no problem.

SOLVER's computer specs are

Quote:

SOLVER wrote:
I have a hp pavilion a530n
AMD Athlon64 processor
3200+operating at 2.00GHz
512MB PC2700 DDR SDRAM memory
200GB 7200 RPM ULTRA DMA hard drive
DVD+RW/CD-RW
CD-ROM drive 48x max.speed
NVIDIA GeForce FX5200XT AGP 8X
graphics card w/128MB DDR video memory
They certainly meet the specs listed on the boxes for Atlantis: Lost Tales and Return to Mysterious Island.

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#116485 - 01/29/05 01:29 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
Mad Offline
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Registered: 11/21/00
Posts: 28649
Loc: United Kingdom
"However, the general public (not necessarily me) seems to want more and more from their games (more graphics, more speed, etc.)."

Hi smile

That's definitely NOT me laugh

I want a good story, a sensible interface and loads of interesting puzzles before more graphics and more speed wink

Cheers.

Mad wave
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#116486 - 01/29/05 01:45 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
qadventuregames Offline
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Registered: 10/12/04
Posts: 596
Hi Mad

I could not agree with you more!! That is also exactly what I want in a game. To me, the rest is just window dressing.
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#116487 - 01/29/05 02:04 PM Re: What is happening to Adventure Games?
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Registered: 04/02/01
Posts: 15679
Loc: England
I do like pretty graphics, but have had as much fun with some of the older games and free games which are not 'state of the art' .
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