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quern #1144769
03/15/18 11:04 AM
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Does anybody find QUERN a difficult game to play or is it me.Ilove challenging games this is a great game but for me extremely hard. does anybody body else feel that way.Of corse being 80 years old don't help.


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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1144796
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You are wright, it is a difficult game but it is very nice
there are lots of puzzles, sometimes easy but also some very difficult one.
i made a walkthrough for it but that one is in Dutch, for one puzzle i cannot give a solution.
the puzzle is a game of mastermind and is every time different.

if you want some help let me know which puzzle and i will try to help you.

Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1144844
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Originally Posted By: Billy the Kid 64
Does anybody find QUERN a difficult game to play or is it me.Ilove challenging games this is a great game but for me extremely hard. does anybody body else feel that way.Of corse being 80 years old don't help.


I certainly found it difficult, Billy the Kid 64, and although I got well past halfway through, I did give up and leave it for a second attempt in the future.

The puzzles were altogether mind boggling - and tired me out laugh


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Re: quern [Re: Mad] #1144863
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You're right. It is very difficult game but I found it enjoyable - especially when a light bulb
goes off and you've solved something during your journey through Quern - and that's what is, a journey.

I did find a very good video walk through on Youtube if you're interested.

You can find it here.

Robert


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Re: quern [Re: rmelone] #1144877
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Thank you, rmelone. I'll make a note of it grin


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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1144888
03/15/18 08:16 PM
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Another good YouTube person for walkthroughs is J.B. Lewis, who has a walkthrough for Quern here
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCdcBwzARVX1AJs9kmNaV4tagiYyU507Z

He also has walkthroughs for the RHEM games, though he doesn't have one for the SE version.

Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1144936
03/16/18 08:44 AM
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Hi everybody,

We have made a text walkthrough for Quern with lots of screenshots back in 2017, this one is in Dutch.

Next week I will translate that one to English, after I finished it I will send it to Louis and he will put it on his site: www.pcgameswalkthroughs.nl.

I will make a reply when it is on the website.

I hope you have fun with it.

Lion_1251

Re: quern [Re: Lion_1251] #1144969
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Jenny100 ..
I do have that one noted already, but thank you very much grin

Lion_1251 ..
Great !! Will be going for it as soon as it's available yes


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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1166572
10/19/18 11:25 PM
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I backed this game on Kickstarter and downloaded it as soon as it came out but just tonight have started playing it. So far, so good. I played under 2 hours and solved a couple of puzzles. Moving right along. lol I didn't have my eyes open at first and did consult a walkthrough on the very first lock puzzle because I thought I might be doing something wrong. Had I been paying better attention, I would have seen the problem and figured it out but I'll give myself that one as part of the "learning curve". I do hope it doesn't get too hard though later in the game.

Re: quern [Re: oldbroad] #1166625
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I really liked this game but had to shelve it for a future re-play (to maintain my sanity) even though I was probably three quarters of the way through.

The constantly very difficult puzzles were wearing me out !! slapforehead


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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1166666
10/20/18 10:37 PM
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I played for 2 hours tonight and didn't accomplish much of anything. There's already a puzzle I can't figure out.

Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1166955
10/23/18 05:19 PM
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Quern is definitely the best game I have played this year, and even compares reasonably with my all-time favourite game, Riven (to which it has more than a passing resemblance!) I found most of the puzzles satsfyingly logical, though I used a walkthrough on one or two occasions to point me in the right direction. The game has some very useful built-in help: a map that grows as new areas are opened to you, an ability to make sketches (stylised screenshots) whenever you want, and a hint function in the Inventory which I found very useful.

It is also an amazingly long game. When I first looked at the walkthrough on YouTube, I thought I was about halfway through the game, and found that I was only part way through the first of five videos! As you open up new areas you find amazing new things to play with.

If you want a game that recaptures the atmosphere of Myst and Riven, but with a fully 3D environments, then Quern is a must play game!


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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1166962
10/23/18 06:09 PM
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I like the game a lot so far. After posting above about being stuck, I managed to figure that puzzle out the next day and made a lot of progress but then became hopelessly stuck again. There was one thing I was trying to do but I guess I didn't try hard enough. I used the walkthrough just enough to see that I need to continue on with the thing I was trying. I didn't look at the solution and haven't yet gone back in the game to see if I can figure it out. As long as I am "exploring" and getting someplace I am fine, but when I get stuck and start wandering around to see if/what I missed, then I start getting motion sick. frown

I think I am only about a third of the way through the game.

Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1167028
10/24/18 04:39 AM
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Quern is a very good game, I played it a couple of times and Louis and I made a text walkthrough for this game.
Most puzzles I could figure out but sometimes I needed a little help from a walkthrough.

We explain all the puzzles exept 1, that is a game of master mind and that is different in each game.
In march I played it again and I have translated the walkthrough to English, you can find it on the website of Louis.

Lots of fun playing Quern,

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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1168720
11/10/18 11:10 PM
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I was really, really, loving this game until tonight. (I still love it but am just upset with it at the moment.) There is a puzzle involving a projector that I worked on for a couple of days and finally consulted a walkthrough for help. I was not doing something right but now that I have, the result that was supposed to happen, didn't. duh Anyway, it's making me ill so I had to get out for now. I think I'll take a look at Louis and Lion's walkthrough when I am feeling better enough to go back in.

Edit: OMG! I finally figured it out, why the location and clue didn't make sense to me and why the result didn't happen. I was focused on the wrong target. Unfortunately, I am too sick to continue now! sick

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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1168738
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Good Luck when you get back in the game oldbroad! fall


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From me, too !! Hope you feel better very soon yes


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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1168784
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Mad - it's just motion sickness from the game. It's really frustrating that I get sick playing some of the best games!! Anyway, thank you and thanks to Kaki's Sister also. I'll be back into the game later on today. At least I am "unstuck" (for the moment). lol

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That's a real shame, oldbroad, and for others who suffer from this affliction also.

But glad you are "unstuck" at least yes


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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1169984
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Well, 49 hand written pages of notes and around 66 hours of playing and I finished the game. Mostly I really enjoyed it a lot but there was one puzzle later in the game that dampened my love of it a little. I could see that I had to do this puzzle more than one time but I did not understand the clue. By my computations (which may of course be wrong) there were 4,680 possible moves. I finally got the solution just under half way through them. I thought that if I saw the solution with the clue I might understand it but I did not. The next puzzle added another element to it so I could not go one by one to hit the solution. I looked at Louis and Lion's walkthrough and studied the pictures there but still could not see how the clues translated to the solutions so that puzzle ruined the game for me a little. After that I didn't try quite as hard and used the walkthrough 2 more times. One of those times was again a puzzle I couldn't follow the clue to the solution. The other one I maybe would have gotten if I had put more time into it.

All in all though, this was a really good puzzle game!

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Congratulations, oldbroad! bravo

Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1169991
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Now that is some dedication! Congrats oldbroad!


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Re: quern [Re: BrownEyedTigre] #1170002
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Phew, oldbroad !! Well Done You !! laugh


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Re: quern [Re: Billy the Kid 64] #1170006
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Congratulations oldbroad with finishing this game.

I am curious which puzzles you couldn't figured out, I known of one puzzle that didn't make sence for me.
That was the puzzle where you have to put the pieces of pipe with the symbols in the right order.

The other puzzle was the Master Mind puzzle but that is a ramdom puzzle, in each game it is different.


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Hi Lion. I don't want to include spoilers in here so I'll say both were underground, the first in Chapter 13. The first corridor puzzle is the one I did by trial and error but could not see the connection between the diagram clues and the "clock" wheels. Your pictures were fine but I could not "see" it. The other was Chapter 17 the Reservoir Cave "volume patterns".

Point me to the part of the walkthrough for the puzzle you had trouble with. I'm not sure which one that was.

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