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#1168933 - 11/12/18 05:06 PM Re: Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales from CD ProjektRed -Release 10/23 on GOG [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Apologies for the double posting, but I wanted to call out something for those that have only experienced Gwent through Witcher 3.

For both Gwent: The Witcher Card Game and Thronebreaker, the card game has changed significantly from Witcher 3; it is more complex. CDPR has been tweaking the mechanics of the game and cards since inception and continues to do so. Gwent is not a casual game, it take a certain degree of dedication to understand the card powers, combos and strengths. I've moved back into Thronebreaker as it offers new cards that are made available to your Gwent deck. I'm working to get achievements that will translate to advancement points and allow me to get more cards. As of now, the starter decks would be no match for an online game unless the Casual Matches truly pair you with someone of an equal level. Otherwise it could turn out to be like any other level-open multiplayer, where more advanced players trash noobies to gain resources, points or whatever.

Honestly, I knew nothing about this new Gwent other than it's become quite popular and they've held tournaments. Now though, I get that you need to build up a really good base of cards in order to develop decks that have a very specific strategy. It's like any of the other similar card games that require a fairly decent time investment to get what's going on. I've got time this weekend, but we'll see how long I can stick with it before life gets in the way.

Put it this way, with the base decks, I won probably 1 out of 10 games against the AI in practice mode. After a few hours of playing and when I started to build up my own deck, that increased to maybe 3 out of 10 times. There's no quick fix or exponential advancement here unless you want to dump a ton of money into new card packs. Even then, it's left up to chance on the quality of the cards you get purchasing the virtual packs. If you go the crafting route, it's a slow slog uphill without going online regularly to play games and get resources.
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#1168939 - 11/12/18 06:07 PM Re: Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales from CD ProjektRed -Release 10/23 on GOG [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Yikes! Sounds like work to this tired old brain.
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#1169359 - 11/16/18 08:48 PM Re: Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales from CD ProjektRed -Release 10/23 on GOG [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Well, I've been splitting my time between Thronebreaker and Gwent, although leaning more towards Gwent. Finding myself somewhat addicted to the card game. The casual matches you play earn points towards moves on a board that result in either crafting goods, additional cards kegs (which consist of 4 standard cards and a choice of three possible rares), or picking up a "leader" for your deck with new powers. I like the problem solving/puzzle aspect it has. You really do need to think about what possible combination you will play and how to defend against your opponents. The casual matches are at first intimidating. I have no clue how they select an opponent, but it's not by level, because at level 4 I was matched against individuals with levels 57, 41, 6 and so on. I think it's just whoever happens to be waiting in the "lobby" at the time. There's no communication between opponents, you just play the game. When it ends you have the option to hit the "GG" or good game button. If your opponent does the same thing you get perks like points and crafting goods. Quests are just based on playing a certain number of games with a specific faction, and winning; that's the hard part. Really not that big of a deal, because there's always some little perk or achievement eventually that pops up just from playing a certain number of games, cards, types of cards and so on.
It is time consuming and somewhat of a slog to build a decent deck. That experience though helps you in strategy planning, building decks and the later matches.

Thronebreaker is basically a board game with Gwent battles interspersed along the way. Like I mentioned, some of the battles are set up differently then that the Gwent game itself and require you to solve how you'll defeat an enemy with a specific combination of cards. If you lose, you just get sent back to the checkpoint again to go a different route or to try again. Getting new Gwent cards that you can only come across in Thronebreaker is the motivation to keep moving through it.

All it all, together they are fun. Like I said though, they do take a certain time investment to build up your skills and decks.

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#1169476 - 11/18/18 12:54 AM Re: Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales from CD ProjektRed -Release 10/23 on GOG [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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So, even if you do end up matched against a high-level player with a skookum deck you can still get something from the game? That's reassuring. I'm still on the fence but I do love Gwent.
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#1169480 - 11/18/18 01:53 AM Re: Thronebreaker: The Witcher Tales from CD ProjektRed -Release 10/23 on GOG [Re: hagatha]
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Originally Posted By: hagatha
So, even if you do end up matched against a high-level player with a skookum deck you can still get something from the game? That's reassuring. I'm still on the fence but I do love Gwent.


Not 100% of the time. If you haven't fulfilled a quest or the opponent doesn't give you a GG, then it's just an instance of getting to know your deck better; as in what needs to be replaced, what works good. Fortunately, about 70% of the opponents I've hit either hit the GG button right after the game or shortly after you hit yours. You get an extra 5 card scraps that are used to build new cards, if the opponent hits GG. Be aware though, the good cards can cost between 800 and 1600 scraps. That's what I meant about this being somewhat of a slog at times.

In Thronebreaker, the matches have just exponentially increased in difficulty. I definitely had to do a few over, but now I've hit a couple where I'm getting trounced every time. It is fun to figure out the combos, but these latest one...Yikes! The thing that's kind of annoying are these specialty battles you come across. The battles are cut to a single round, with custom cards that aren't found in the Gwent game. Rather than trying to win with the most points on the board, they give you tasks like keeping a specific character/card alive. So you work though an almost adventure game style puzzle with those custom Gwent cards. Aside from having to repeat the sequence over if you want to play again, while the exercise helps your logic skills, it doesn't get you any more acquainted with the the way Gwent is truly played.
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