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#118902 - 06/07/05 11:28 PM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
gymcandy1 Offline
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True, but what I mean is that the game ended after the villan fell in the river, soooo.... we dont really know if any of these other characters dissapeared after that point.

Still could be Richard or Miller to my way of thinking.
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#118903 - 06/08/05 05:32 AM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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I suppose, at the end of the day, as long as whoever is revealed as the killer has a plausible motive then I'm not too fussed about who it is. However, it for some reason Miller or even the beat cop - Tate - is the killer simply because you would never have suspecting them, then I would feel cheated.
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#118904 - 06/08/05 09:26 AM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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Refresh my memory please...at one point when Gus was on one side of that 'canal' there was a man in a police uniform on the other side watching him, who was that? Or was he ever identified? And why was he watching Gus, was Gus a suspect at that point?Another question from me = if the killer Victoria is seeking is the same person as the killer Gus was looking for wouldn't he be awfully old and not move around so quickly/easily? The present day killer is tall, slim and moves very swiftly, must be very young (Victoria's age group) and very agile.
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#118905 - 06/08/05 09:42 AM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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I don't believe he was identified. At another point during Gus' investigation there is a different person on the other side of the canal who seemed to have no significance in the story.
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#118906 - 06/08/05 09:46 AM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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I don't believe that cop in the scenes with Gus had anything to do with the plot but who knows?

I think that the present day killer is a "copy cat" killer. Someone who strongly identifies with Mark, the artist, and runs a gallery himself, is Richard. Could that be the connection? Was Mark the original killer??
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#118907 - 06/08/05 10:41 AM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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Agreeing with gymcandy, I am. The present-day killer is a copycat (a "pupil," either in the literal or figurative sense) of Mark Ackerman. It might be a single person or a group, or several acting in series; these crimes, or this type of crime, has been going on intermittently for 70 or more years now.

From stuff I've read I'm almost convinced the killer is NOT actually someone we've met so far. For one thing, before Microids ran out of money, there was supposed to be a couple whole other sections involving the '56 crimes in LA and Victoria's trip there. So there are whole other plot elements that need to be taken into account before this crime even begins to make sense.

Several other sites propose Miller and support the proposition quite well. But he WAS accounted for when Vic was chasing the killer. I remember thinking, "that guy's still having the same conversation?" And it was directly after that, I believe, that he came up w/Vaclav's name.

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#118908 - 06/08/05 11:26 AM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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I think the cop watching Mark Ackerman's place was there because Ackerman was suspected of (or the police chief knew he was responsible) the murders and they were keeping an eye on him. They probably wanted to see, also, who was going to see him. Maybe that made it easier to use Gus as the fall guy. He was seen going in and out of Ackerman's place.
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#118909 - 06/08/05 12:17 PM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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Hopeing we find out I am.

Frustrating it is not knowing. wink
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#118910 - 06/10/05 10:40 AM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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I also believe that it was Richard, for all the reasons you 've mentioned.

I have a question though:
At Mia's appartment (after she is kidnapped by the murderer) when the killer fights with Victoria, we can clearly see that she removes his mask, reveals his face (NOT viewable to us) and looks at him with awe - as if she recognizes him...

What do you think??
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#118911 - 06/10/05 11:55 AM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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Some other people have mentioned this possibility and I'm certainly not ruling it out. But I didn't read it that way. For one thing, Victoria was pretty out of it, either from the hypo that got stuck in her as she bent over Mia or from the shock or blood loss or something. So it's not clear to me that she actually was able to discern anything. Also, you'd think if she DID see something, she wouldn't still be puzzling over who the killer was later.

Some people have also suggested that Vaclav recognised the killer when he stumbled into the carnage. I tend to agree with FOV that the look on his face was kind of more a mixture of shock at finding a tall, costumed person confronting him and the realisation that he was about to get his throat cut.

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#118912 - 06/10/05 12:03 PM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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Hi WW wave

I agree with you on all counts. If Vic had known who the killer was, I don't think she would have been so relaxed and calm in the hot tub.

BTW...Congrats on the wonderful review Lady K gave your book in Mixed Bag! praise

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#118913 - 06/10/05 12:32 PM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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Awww, shucks.... thanks

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#118914 - 06/10/05 01:24 PM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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Book? What book?



I know I shouldn't be reading this, as I haven't played the game, but I'm just curious:

(Out-of-left-field question) Is there any chance Gus is still alive and has turned to the dark side, so-to-speak?


Edited by looney4labs (06/15/07 01:20 PM)
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#118915 - 06/10/05 02:10 PM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
wysewomon Offline
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Quote:
Originally posted by Becky:


(Out-of-left-field question) Is there any chance Gus is still alive and has turned to the dark side, so-to-speak?
I really, really doubt it! Personally, I think the kind of psychic visions Gus gets would prevent that sort of thing.

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#118916 - 06/11/05 10:12 PM Re: Still Life - Who's the Killer? - SPOILERS
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Well, personally I think that the killings were not done by one person; even back in the past killings, ackerman may have just done the last one; and there's nothing to say they haven't happened before that either. It may be some sort of ritual for the club (whose origins may be older; i think there was some mention of the similarities of the killings to Jack the Ripper). I hope they make the next/continuation/sequel so we can find out smile

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