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Ethical question #120359
01/28/03 12:45 PM
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Hi Boomers, I've got a question for everyone. I'm a long-time trader at the Game Trading Zone. In fact, I just subscribed for a year. I just the other day discovered something quite extraordinary - it seems some people have added "Harvest" to their "wanted" list. Well, being as how I created "Harvest", I naturally have an unlimited supply of the game. So, I added it to my list of "available" games, and viola, I've got lots of matches for game trades. Is this ethical? I suddenly started feeling uneasy about it and need to know what others think. eek

Mike


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Re: Ethical question #120360
01/28/03 12:51 PM
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Well, since you created the game, I guess it's up to you how you want your customers to 'pay' for a copy! Either with $$$ or with a another game you want in return. (after all, you could sell the game for cash, and use the cash to buy a game from one of the Trading Zone members, so what's the diffrence?)

Anyhow, that's my take on it! Hmmmm, I wonder if I have any games you want in return for a copy of "Harvest"?? wink

Louis

Re: Ethical question #120361
01/28/03 12:54 PM
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Hi Mike,

I think it's a great idea. wink Just let the trader know you are the developer. wink

Jonathan traded some of his Dark Falls with people that didn't have CC's. It worked out well, both sides were happy. wink

~Dee

Re: Ethical question #120362
01/28/03 12:56 PM
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It doesn't seem unethical to me, they're yours to sell or trade--and btw I did have Harvest on my list of wanted games, but decided I couldn't wait and bought it instead!


Angie
Re: Ethical question #120363
01/28/03 12:57 PM
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Hmm,

well I would make sure that any trades you are offered compensate for your sales losses..

Yes as far as GTZ is concerned, it would be ethical.

What you must appreciate is that there are many players who are discouraged with trading overseas, so want to have a local source for games. I for one hate to use my cc on any sites but a handful (home shopping and amazon mainly) for all other transactions I like to be able to send a cheque or cash (mine not the recipients!!)

Must admit that was why I got Dark Fall so quickly, could send a UK cheque and got my game within a week!!

The nicest take on this scenario is that they have all heard of the game but don't know where to get it from, so you are tapping into a great market!! smile

Hugs

Tig


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Re: Ethical question #120364
01/28/03 12:58 PM
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Why wouldn't it be ethical?

Besides, I think it's kind of cool to trade with the actual creator of the game.

Re: Ethical question #120365
01/28/03 12:59 PM
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Hmm,

adding to Jenny's comments.. now don't go offering Signed copies anywhere but here, OK?? laugh

Tig


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Re: Ethical question #120366
01/28/03 01:03 PM
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I agree with Jenny1 too. smile

And you know what else? I think you are a very nice person for caring enough to ask for opinions. wink

~Dee

Re: Ethical question #120367
01/28/03 01:11 PM
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Ditto that! And as some of us have a bad habit of spending too much at Christmastime (not me of course), we are delighted to make a trade instead of coming up with elusive cash wink Thanks for caring!


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Re: Ethical question #120368
01/28/03 01:15 PM
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It's called "bartering", if I understand the meaning of the word. That has always been ethical and was, I suppose, the earliest form of "buying" anything. If you're happy with what you get in trade for the game then it shouldn't matter to anyone else.

BTW, my copy of HARVEST came in the mail yesterday! Now, if I could just see those colors in the "Colored Picture Puzzle. thumbsup laugh


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Re: Ethical question #120369
01/28/03 01:20 PM
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BB, you have got a stammer!!!


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Re: Ethical question #120370
01/28/03 01:28 PM
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I fixed it. wink

Re: Ethical question #120371
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Mike,

I think that is a GREAT idea..... thumbsup

Re: Ethical question #120372
01/28/03 02:15 PM
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Go for it Mike thumbsup Jonathan traded me two copies of Dark Fall for two of my games that he was having trouble finding. We both walked away happy. wave


Judy
Re: Ethical question #120373
01/28/03 02:19 PM
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Hey Mike. I just took a look at your wanted list. Did you REALLY put down that you DO want boxed games but DON'T CARE if they have manuals?


Judy
Re: Ethical question #120374
01/28/03 02:43 PM
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Did you REALLY put down that you DO want boxed games but DON'T CARE if they have manuals?
Yes. I guess my thinking was that if someone had the BOX, then in all likelihood, they had the manual. smile But now you've got me to thinking. Hmmm.

Mike.


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Re: Ethical question #120375
01/28/03 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Did you REALLY put down that you DO want boxed games but DON'T CARE if they have manuals?
I just assumed you considered playing without the manual to be part of the challenge! laugh laugh

Re: Ethical question #120376
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Me too. laugh I was thinking that if you are smart enough to be a developer, you don't need manuals. wave


Judy
Re: Ethical question #120377
01/28/03 10:31 PM
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I've gone back and changed it - usually, I don't read the manuals, (most of the time they just say how to install and navigate - and I usually just figure it out myself), but now I'm thinking that NOT having the manuals might lessen any value or worth of the game. Thanks for getting me to think. smile

Mike.


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Re: Ethical question #120378
01/28/03 11:41 PM
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Mike,

I think if anyone at all is entitled to do whatever they wish with their game - the creator is certainly the only one who can always dispose of, sell, trade, paper their walls or do truly anything they want. Definitely get the manuals - though I must confess I never read the durn things til I have a problem. I just grump around my office, go online and look for posts, talk to my kids and then finally the last thing I try is to get the manual out. Then it's usually "Ohhhh so that's what I am supposed to do" laugh

Laura





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