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#120521 - 04/28/06 03:38 PM One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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First I need to state that in my opinion this is not an adventure game. Action/adventure maybe but definitely not adventure. I also need to make clear that my first love in gaming is action/adventure and First Person Shooters. And Friedmonky can verify this to be a fact. Ive played every FPS thats ever came out since 2000, and 60% of all the action/adventure games that come out. I never have a problem that I cant adjust to and make work. However in Dreamfall the problem is not all the fighting you encounter in this game, its the controls, they just dont work. You are killed in no time flat because the controls wont respond. I am enjoying the characters and the story, but I am getting so fed up with all the tedious battles that you can barely beat because of poor camera work (angles) and poor controls. Now if the controls would only respond the way they should, this would probably be one of the best games I have played this year next to TombRaider, Legends.
Please note: I am playing the pc version, not the xbox, which I understand has much better controls. Also Ive tried all combinations possible to do the battles and none of them work for me.
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#120522 - 04/28/06 03:45 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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Originally posted by JohnBoy:
And Friedmonky can verify this to be a fact.
Yes, I can! thumbsup

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#120523 - 04/28/06 03:56 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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JohnBoy

I'm glad I read your post.
I was going to go and buy a new video card.
Seems as if the game is not worth it.
Normally I don't care what reviews say - I should have cared this time. frown
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#120524 - 04/28/06 04:06 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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Originally posted by Retired at last:
[qb] JohnBoy

I'm glad I read your post.
I was going to go and buy a new video card.
Seems as if the game is not worth it.
Normally I don't care what reviews say - I should have cared this time. frown
Retired wave [/qb]
Id still buy the new video card. lol
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#120525 - 04/28/06 04:15 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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Well, I can't account for your ongoing troubles, JohnBoy, but I just didn't find it anywhere near as hard as you seem to be. On PC. I died a couple times early on, and then I don't think ever again.

The response times in fights are slow, yes, which is frustrating. But since the enemies largely just stand there doing nothing most of the time, waiting for you to hit them, that's hardly the disadvantage it would be in a true action/adventure.
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#120526 - 04/28/06 04:27 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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Originally posted by Singer:
Well, I can't account for your ongoing troubles, JohnBoy, but I just didn't find it anywhere near as hard as you seem to be. On PC. I died a couple times early on, and then I don't think ever again.

The response times in fights are slow, yes, which is frustrating. But since the enemies largely just stand there doing nothing most of the time, waiting for you to hit them, that's hardly the disadvantage it would be in a true action/adventure.
Are we playing the same game? lol The enemy knocks me down 3 times to my knocking them down once, simply because the controls dont do what they are suppose to do.
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#120527 - 04/28/06 04:36 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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HEY Now.............
Go buy that new Card.......Cause if you think Dreamfall is demanding.....Wait for these other new games to hit the shelves...........

It only GETS Better

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#120528 - 04/28/06 06:22 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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You guys have made my mind up ,,THANKS

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#120529 - 04/28/06 07:11 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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Johnboy I haven't hit any fighting - other than with the lousy controls that is. I can manage to play about 10 minutes at a time and then I get so fed up I quit. About the only thing I've managed to do is run Zoe into walls and have that blasted camera whip around (yes I changed the view but it's still the pits). I really thought after playing RPGs with the keyboard for almost three years this game would be a piece of cake for me - it's a piece of something alright, but cake isn't it lol

Would have been nice if they hadn't have tried to "improve" this game so much they made it a pain to play - What happend to the simple put your finger on the W key and stear with the mouse RPGs have been using for years??????

/Rant Off

Oh and Retired - definitely buy a new video card and then get Oblivion laugh
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#120530 - 04/28/06 07:18 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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Thank you Syd. :kiss:
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#120531 - 04/28/06 07:30 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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No problem JB laugh

Now I'm going back to a game I can play and whack some baddies rotfl
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#120532 - 04/28/06 07:33 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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Hi Syd
Rant off for you - rant on for me.
I can kind of play the game with my GeForce FX 5200 but like you say the controls are so !@#$%?&
bad.
80 Days had the WASD keys and it worked fine for me. So did other games - can't remember what they are (old age is setting in) laugh
Improve - ya - indeed - if it ain't broken don't fix it. mad
Rant off/
I will definetly get a new video card when my computer store can have the time to install it when I bring in the computer - right then and there - while I go for a coffee - can you imagine not having my computer for 2 to 3 days - might as well cut off my right arm. rotfl
Oblivion is not my type of game at the moment - might convert to these games later on. I dnloaded
the demo for KingKong and found it very frustrating.

Funcom is now on my Blacklist XXXXXXXXXXX and more. $45.00 down the drain!!!
I can only wish that Funcom has access to Gameboomers to see how many people are frustrated.

Retired

P.S. - am going back to my Myst Exile - am almost finished - at least with these games you don't have to worry about bad controls
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#120533 - 04/28/06 07:44 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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Hi Retired - actually I had an Nvidia 5200 for years - matter of fact I just replaced it and that was only because Oblivion wouldn't play on it. I loved that card even though a lot of people said it was junk.

Be without a computer????? Arrrrrgh - my worst nightmare rotfl
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#120534 - 04/28/06 07:44 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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I suggest anyone having problems with the controls experiment with the mouse settings or a gamepad.

A gamepad's really the ideal controller for this game, but there are other options. Try setting mouse to "movement" instead of "camera," for example. With that setting, dragging the mouse in any direction causes your character to move that way. It's rather tiring, since you have to move the mouse a lot, but it makes directional control easier.

Or you can use the default controls, but modify the mouse sensitivity settings to slow down how fast the camera moves. And you can generally do pretty well by always pointing the camera in the direction you wish to move, if at all possible. Then you just have to press forward to move and move the mouse to change direction.

I find that the battles in this game are quite easy IF you restrict yourself to only necessary battles. If a battle is too hard to win with ease, you probably can avoid the battle altogether with careful planning and stealth.
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#120535 - 04/28/06 07:52 PM Re: One more rant about Dreamfall (beware - spoilers are lurking)
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There are controls for the mouse on both the Game and Mouse tabs of Dreamfall's options. The Game controls let you reverse horizontal or vertical axes. Retired, if you were OK with 80 Days, try reversing the horizontal axis on the Game tab.

It isn't the fighting that gets me so much as the sneaking and having to time enemy movements. Ugh!

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