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#120778 - 04/04/06 12:54 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
bkrytr Offline
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Probably all those toxins in his body from not eating or having any water to drink and never going to the bathroom fueled his obsession. laugh

Then you have Jerry who was coming to get him and couldn't because of the rain. Yet Michael didn't seem surprised Jerry was still in his office after the rain was over. duh And as worried about him as Jerry appeared to be scared he never again mentioned coming to get Michael out of there. Between that and being evicted from a house he supposedly bought? I'm sure Michael had quite a bit to discuss with friend Jerry. mad
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#120779 - 04/04/06 01:55 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Happy Birthday dragonuk44 Offline
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Don t think he spoke to him again did nt ring any way lol enjoyed it made a change I think the person doing the scratching was the son and he killed his mum and the good Mr Blackmore knew it was all his fault for taking the mask must have sent him batty bet when that goulie jumped for me the next door neighbours thought I had lost it lol dos nt take a lot make me jump I know people say they could nt see well but I got it right for once and it was a change to have a scary game where you can see what you are doing Very slow to start but once in the story I enjoyed it Thought that Jerry was up to some thing though I would have locked the bed room door at night thumbsup

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#120780 - 04/04/06 02:31 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
bkrytr Offline
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Considering all the racket going on in a supposedly empty house scared I do believe I would have slept in the car with the doors
L O C K E D!!! eek
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#120781 - 04/16/06 11:49 AM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
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I hope no one minds that I revive this thread...

When I saw the creature at the end I thought it looked and behaved like how Blackstone descibed the African tribe. But then when I saw the screen cap of the cat eyes I had to think that it was now the feline god from the mask.

So since the creature at the end had cat eyes does that make it the god? Or since it kills by ripping people apart does that make it like the tribe in Africa? The tribe in Africa was also deformed looking. Blackstone commented about that in his diary. I think he said he thought it could be from years and years of inbreeding.


And when Michael did the ritual on the mask, did the the god just then jump into the creature which up until then was just deformed and crazy because of the morning sickness drug(sorry forget the name). But, I didn't think that drug made people crazy, just severely deformed.

I keep going back to that somehow the creature, who do I believe was Robin, was for some reason behaving like the tribe(maybe because of a curse from the mask) and when Micheal performed the ritual on the mask the god jumped into Robin. Maybe too much time had passed between rituals and the god was released before the ritual was complete.

Just some thoughts and ....lots of questions think
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#120782 - 04/16/06 08:13 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
C'ris Offline
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by bkrytr:
[QB] Probably all those toxins in his body from not eating or having any water to drink and never going to the bathroom fueled his obsession. laugh /[QUOTE]

rotfl rotfl rotfl That's what I kept thinking! I just finished the game and loved reading this thread right after:))

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#120783 - 04/17/06 02:22 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Jenna Offline
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Where do I find the medicine bottles? I did finish the game but can't recall where I saw the bottles. think

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#120784 - 04/17/06 02:56 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Bella_g Offline
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Registered: 03/27/06
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They're in one of the dressers in the main bedroom -- the room across from the African gallery. (I say "they", though truthfully I can't recall whether there was more than one bottle.)

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#120785 - 04/22/06 08:26 AM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Becky Offline
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I thnk the game may be set up so that you can "read" two different explanations for events -- the non-supernatural explanation and the supernatural explanation.

In one, James is going mad, has become fixated on the mask and its evil properties, Robin is deformed because of the thalidomide, and James kills his wife.

In the other, James is perfectly sane, Robin is taken over by the spirit from the mask, his deformities are a result of this possession, Robin (even at age two) in a manic frenzy kills his mother by biting her throat.

Either way, James never intended to improve the upper floors of the house -- the mortgage was a way to get plenty of money in the bank so that Robin could be hidden away from the world, automatically fed, etc.

I think Jerry knows there are art treasures in the house, and is using Michael supposedly owning the place to get Michael to move the treasures out and share the gains with Jerry. If the police catch on, Jerry hopes that Michael will prove to be the fall guy.

EDIT: In either scenario, there has to be somebody who knows about Robin who still has access to the house. There's the fresh blood on the table in the part of the "cell" that Robin is locked out of. And the fact that Michael is evicted (and after only three days) shows that whoever is monitoring Robin has quickly figured out that Michael is in the house.

The question is -- who is this? Is it James, who has only faked his death? Is it the doctor, who maybe can't bear to go on living in the house, but does monitor it and is so secretive no one in the town knows he's still around? Or is it someone else?

Skeleton in the coffin could be James or the doctor. I agree the scratching noises are Robin trying to dig himself out.

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#120786 - 04/22/06 10:54 AM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Betty Lou Offline
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I cannot remember what Michael's mortgage contract says about what he can or cannot do with the personal possessions left in this house which by the way he bought or is buying - so he has every right to do whatever he wants with whatever 'treasures' he finds there, doesn't he? Jerry's supposed "I want my share of whatever you find" if it is not in writing and done legally - hasn't any legal rights to a share of profits from sales or whatever that Michael reaps the benefits of.....I could be wrong on this point. There does not seem to be any family member of James and wife and son to legally inherit this mansion and its contents and so the bank listed the property for sale and Jerry is Michaels friend and real-estate agent in its purchase....Mike is not just renting this house nor is he illegally 'camping out' in it. Am I right?
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#120787 - 04/22/06 11:10 AM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
tigger Offline
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didn't he buy the house from the National Trust or some such organisation?? Yes, Jerry told him that the house was his, lock stock and barrel so to share any treasures he found with him.

Over here, once the sale of a property has been 'completed' (ie gone through all the legal stuff) there is no going back by either party.... and I'm sure Michael said he had bought it.

Oh and I didn't like the 'spoiler' comment at the start of day 3 - Michael said 'my last day in this house' or something along those lines....
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#120788 - 04/22/06 02:26 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Bella_g Offline
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I didn't like the 'spoiler' comment at the start of day 3 - Michael said 'my last day in this house' or something along those lines....
Yeah, that bugged me too; I rationalized it by telling myself that what he meant was, "My last day in the house because after this I'm checking into a hotel to get some food and water and take a shower."

Actually, what bugged me even more was that Michael seemed surprised when Jerry told him about the murder that had taken place there; apparently this was complete news to him (another reason why I wanted Michael to go visit Jerry immediately after picking up that crowbar; I've no idea what laws are like in the UK, but over here Jerry could easily have opened himself up to a lawsuit for failing to disclose that). The manual that came with the game went into great detail about the murder, and it just seemed to me that if it was a surprise to Michael, it should have been a surprise to the player -- there was nothing inherent in the game that justified the player having more knowledge than the player character.

All in all, it's a minor quibble -- as soon as I finished playing, I immediately got a friend hooked on playing it, so obviously I loved it.

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#120789 - 04/22/06 06:44 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Betty Lou Offline
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AND...I am still enjoying the game and all the theories batting about even more now that this thread has been revived. Hope more newer players find it and come here to "put their 2 cents in" too. Loving it!
Love, Betty Lou
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#120790 - 04/22/06 10:06 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Becky Offline
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Did I dream that Michael found an eviction notice in his mailbox? scared

Robin is still alive to inherit the mansion. And is there any evidence that James didn't fake his death? It was so convenient, that death -- right when he was being investigated for the murder of his wife.

Jerry was the one who told us that the house had been taken over by the National Trust. Can we trust him?

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#120791 - 04/23/06 11:59 AM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Bella_g Offline
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Registered: 03/27/06
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Robin is still alive to inherit the mansion.
Yes, but I seem to recall a newspaper article that reported his death shortly after birth, so as far as any legal entity is concerned, he doesn't exist.

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And is there any evidence that James didn't fake his death? It was so convenient, that death -- right when he was being investigated for the murder of his wife.
Perhaps his death had some help from the doctor? (Completely idle question, by the way.) I don't think there's any evidence either way, except that it's either James or the doctor who's still alive, the doctor was seen in town after James's reported death, and James seemed a bit fragile mentally to be trusted to go into hiding.

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Jerry was the one who told us that the house had been taken over by the National Trust. Can we trust him?
Frankly, if I were Michael, at this point I'd demand he prove to me that he actually has a real estate license.

Bella, President of the Jerry-Bashers Club

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#120792 - 04/23/06 12:43 PM Re: Scratches question--contains major spoilers
Becky Offline
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Registered: 02/16/00
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Good point that nobody KNOWS that Robin is alive. Except the mysterious person who has been feeding him.

Are we agreed that the skeleton in the coffin must be either James or the good doctor?

Gotta get back in and see who that eviction notice was from. Hope I have a saved game near it.

Rant for game developers who make games with complex plots:

PLEASE give us lots of saved game slots. I shouldn't have to replay large portions of a game while hunting down plot details!

Why do you think the doctor says that if he went to the authorities (years later) and told the truth, he would have to go to jail?

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