Hi,
I know we all talk alot about games that we would recommend playing. I would like to know what game (yes, just one) that you would definitely NOT recommend, for whatever reason. Mine would have to be Arabian Nights. Everything about it I found horrible.
Rusty
P.S. - Yes, I know that "un-recommend" is not a real word. I just made it up!

Timeline

BJ,
It took you two whole minutes to post that! Let's be a little quicker next time...
Rusty

Crystal Key.

It is okay to elaborate a little, people! Please give your reason also.
Thanks,
Rusty

Timeline also, it is not an adventure game IMHO too much action and stupid action at that.
Sylvia

For me it's The Return of the Time Machine! UGH! B O R IIIIIIIIIIIIII N G!

I'd have posted faster, Rusty... but I had to take 48 sceonds to debate with myself between Timeline and Alfred Hitchcock's The Final Cut.

Yes, I noticed that you listed both at first then you removed Final Cut.
Rusty

Strange... I hesitated at starting Final Cut when I realized that it was a keyboard game, but I, for one, am glad that I had second thoughts on it! It turned out to be a verrrrrrrrrry interesting game! Plus, I really enjoyed the spoof on all of the Hitchcock thrillers!

There ARE a couple of games that I couldn't trade FAST enough, they were so bad, but darned if I can remember them right now!

Yvonne

Of Light and Darkness. Most confusing game I have ever played.

In Order;
1. Time Machine
2. Timeline
3. Chemicus

Did not really enjoy any of them. <img border="0" alt="" title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" />

The crystal key, brab and boring. Rusty are you talking about the action/adventure game by Dreamcatcher? If so I loved the game. I thought everything about the game was fun and a good challenge without being extremely difficult. And it was a long game. A lot of play for your money.

Ladyyve, Do you mean "The New Adventures of the Time Machine"? I never heard of the "Return of".

I'm with you, Carmen. OLAD makes Crystal Key almost interesting. Ok, ok, pretty! Ain't nuthin' gonna make CK interesting.

Love, Jen

Phantasmorgia

Was enjoying the game up to the first cut scene by the time it got to the implied rape scene, all I could think was they took a good game and ruined it by trying to gross me out.

Patricia

For me it would be Riven. I found it boring but I am not a fan of first person adventures.

Time Machine is at the top of my list Maybe because I didn't play some of the others that GB'ers have listed.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> Glynn

Adventure at the Chateau D'Or

(I didn't think Hitchcock was that bad - just mediocre.)

Yes Jenny! I guess I was trying to forget that one! Talk about Boooooring!! Glynn

I vote for OLAD, only because I've never played Chateau D'Or. Of Light and Darkness was so confusing and I never finished it.

Loved Arabian Nights!!!!

I may get stoned for this one, but Liath. I found it really annoying and not the least challenging.

A Fork in the Tale - to know it, is to hate it

I wouldn't recommend the Ward to anybody, mostly for the same reasons Jenny100 had in her reply to the Ward - SciFi Adventure thread.

Nine. Too bizarre and boring.

Of Light and Darkness. I'm still sratching my head over that one. Very confusing.

Wow! Lots of interesting replies.
johnboy, yes that is the one I am referring to. I hated it!
Rusty

OLAD definately!! I have the scroll (paid $1.50 for it), but it is out on loan so will give my comments when it comes home..

Flotsam, do you feel up to doing a Bottom 10???

Tig

There are two games that I installed and never finished and finally uninstalled.

1. Light and Darkness. Boring and confusing.

2. City of Lost Children. I didn't like anything about it.

Then there was Koala Lumpur which had an arcade scene in it that was beyond me so I quit the game and forever banished it to my stack of unfinished never to play again games.

Ooooops! YES!!! ROFFFFFFFFFFFLLLLLLLLLLL! Gee, I already had it as a 'sequel'!???? YUCK! HAHAHAHA

THAT'S the one, johnboy!

Syd..what in the world was that one about??? Glynn

Yup, OLAD by far. The whole game is a timed sequence. The only game I have yet to complete.
I take the free tours to practice that level and then play like [blip] when it counts. I almost gave up on American Mcgee's ALICE,until I used the give all and God modes. No such cheats with OLAD.
Hey, The Crystal Key was like a prom date that your buds hooked you up with. It sounded good at the time and looked great. How much did I spend?

some good choices listed here but Phantasmorgia, not even close.

my list of games that i would NOT recommend

1. the quivering
2. the quivering
3. the quivering
4. the quivering
5. the quivering
6. the quivering
7. the quivering
8. the quivering
9. the quivering
10.the quivering

Noone should play this travesty of a game.

I know many people will disagree with me, but Blackstone Chronicles is my choice. It was so depressing and the ending gave me no joy.

Good choice, fildil! It WAS depressing!!! I couldn't agree more!

Oh I do agree about Blackstone Chronicles was very depressing. But I was most disappointed in Nine it was a game I really looked forward to, I love the people in it especially Cher but IMHO it really stank.

Karen

From the manual: "You've just stumbled onto something very big. What started out as a simple trip to the store has left you wounded, confused, and washed ashore on the mysterous island of Eseverson. But this is no ordinary island. This is a parallel universe. To find your way home, you must unravel the centuries old mystery of Eseveron. Of course it won't be easy since most of the inhabitants of this strange and seductive land want you dead. Think fast. Move faster. And remember, everything here happens for a reason."

From actual gameplay - move two steps - die and start over, get to the beach, run two steps, die and start over. Move again, get trompled by horsemen, die and start over. Find the building finally, open the wrong door, die and start over - need I say more????

I absolutely loved Blackstone Chronicles, but I agree that parts of it were sad and morbid. I tend to like adventure games with morbid or strange themes, though.
My pick for the game I would never recommend is the one where you are in the castle and you can't carry around all of your inventory, so you have to store it in chests scattered around in various rooms. The inventory irritated me so much that I not only never finished the game, but I've blocked the name from memory! I think it may be The Messenger, but I'm not sure.

For my money it is Syd's favorite game Kofun. Of course we cannot count the Scroll until she finished it. LOL

1. Bureau 13 (possibly the worst game ever made)
2. Arthur's Knights (too buggy)
3. The Final Cut (lousy continuity)
4. William Shatner's TekWar (horribly done)

Yes that's The Messenger, published in Europe as Louvre: The Final Curse.

Thanks Syd..."A Fork in the Tale" is bound to be the funniest title out there! Glynn

I try, Glynn!
Rusty

Well...You "Done Good"!! I am still cracking up over some of these titles.. :-) Glynn

It is a great thread Rusty (*)

Well let's see, so many games to pick from....

Star Trek Borg - literally a 3 hour game.

Urban Runner: sister to Fork In The Tale. Run in first person with bad camera angles. Run into locker rooms, old buildings, really ugly torn up places. Hear yourself out of breath over and over. Die - re-load - die take game and throw out of window. Catch breath - feel better.

Night Trap: brother to the above, all part of large disfunctional game family.

The infamous Chateau D'or. Thankfully, a short game, just not short enough.

I cannot think of ANY game that I hated so much that I would tell anyone else "FORGET ABOUT IT"! But if you want to know a game or two that I hated I can tell you that = The Ward, terribly frustrating trying to disconnect that lazer maze and open that door, so much so that I quit, uninstalled and sold it to 'get it outta here'!.

AND Shivers II, just could not get the hang of what to do and do it faster in that canyon, tried to manage the placement of those Bajo sticks I found in the Motel office and after about 100 false starts and tries I gave up on this one too and sold it off.....too bad cause Shivers I is one of my favorite games.

there are probably others I did not like much and may have played to the end but ended up hating, but cannot remember what they are now.
Love, Betty Lou

Okay. I've succumbed. No games I actualy hate so far, but then I haven't played as many as some here.

If all my played games were set out and I had to pick my strongest to weakest candidates, then my two weak picks would EASILY be ;

'Road To India' - for being far too short and far too easy.

. . . . but the clear loser . .

. . 'Mystery of the Druids' . .

. . . . because it was a good game completely ruined by the nonsensically repetitive conversation trees. To find out if you DIDN'T need to speak to a person again you had to click through the whole previous conversation again and again and . . . .. For me, this was a good game that became a poor game due to this.

Gelert.

I don't know if it qualifies, but I bought Heart of Darkness even though I'd heard it called "adventure/arcade." In fact, I was never able to get far enough into it to find any adventure. It seemed like all arcade to me. Click click click click click on little black beasties before they get you. And they regenerate too. To make matters worse, the game didn't have a normal save system and you could only save at a few places. Also, your save would be overwritten if you loused up and got eaten. Heart of Darkness had a very nicely done animated introduction. Then the game started.

I'd forgotten about Mystery of the Druids.

Or is the phrase "blocked it from my memory?"

Oh shoot - I have another one - Gothos - first cousin to A Fork in the Tale, Night Trap and Urban Runner - this game is just so unbelievably bad, words fail me

And Kathy how can you not love Kofun???? I mean, geeez woman

Whoa Kofun. What's not to love?

Laura

Why do I have this sudden urge to play "Of light and Darkness" and "The City of Lost Children"? I have been wanting to check those two games out for quite a while and now that they are not recommended I want to play them. I dont get it. <img border="0" alt="" title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" />

If you want to play the games that most people hated, on this thread, don't worry, it just means that you have BAAGS - level 7.

From the Our Archives - Hall of Fame section, here is Syd's post on BAAGS. Enjoy.

BAAGS

Level 7? Oh My! According to Syd I need to be locked up in a mental institution. Will they let me play "Of Light and Darkness" and "The City of Lost Children"? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />

I know I'll get lynched for this one, but for me
" Faust seven games of the soul" buggiest damned
game Ive ever played, I spent more time trying to get it to work than play, made it thru chapter 5,
and just couldnt take it anymore, I was so frustrated with it I just wanted to take the discs and just keep smashing them with a hammer,
of course I didnt, I think I traded it off.

Worse games I've played would be:

Timeline--arcade action and only one puzzle. Didn't finish it. The book was way better.

Welcome to the Future?--not much of an ending, nothing really challenging--just find pieces and put where they belong.

Quest for Karma--decent puzzles but left out the story--just didn't hang together.

Games that I would not recommend are ...

1. Comer - huh?
2. The Watchmaker - voice acting
3. Jazz and Faust - voice acting

There are others that I didn't like but that was because of technical problems rather than issues with the game.

Kim

At one point a bunch of us were going to get The Scroll and play it together so we could commiserate. Only nobody could get up the guts to start playing.

Hmmm..I guess I hit upon a winner with this thread. I am glad you are all enjoying it. I sure am enjoying reading it!
Rusty

I got 3/4 through the Watchmaker and the game quit working I deleted and reinstalled six times. I was sent a replacement disk, and that did not work. I do not know what to do.

Hi Teetsel,
I think you'd have more luck with this if you posted it in our "Glitches, Bugs, and Patches" forum.
Rusty

I would say "Undying" horrifying game, always killing zombies, scare the willies out of me

And

The Watchmaker, never finished it, kind of boring.


Liz.

Myst and any of the sequels (gave up on both Myst and Exile, never tried Riven) or those like them ROTS, etc. Don't like games that are practically stictly puzzles and no plot or character interaction. Loved the Phantasmagorias, Mystery of the Druids and Hitchcock all are in my top 10

Happy gaming,
Lewton

I have to say Mystery of the Druids. I played it halfway through and hated it. didn't like the action. I didn't care about the main character. I traded it in to EB games. Normally when I don't like a game or get tired of it, I will play it to the end using a WT to get the torture over with but with MOTD, I didn't even want to rush finishing it with a WT.

You know, I forgot about Riven. Hated that one too and didn't finish it. I traded it in at EB games. The puzzles were so ridiculously hard to me that I didn't finish that one either.

Glad to get that out of my system.

everyone,
I have to agree about Chateau D'Or and I will add Amerzone to that. I will probably get some heat for the second one but I thought both were boring.
Kay

Have to second "Fork in the Tale". When they said parallel universe, I didn't realize they meant the developers. Totally bizarre!

Hi Kay,
I have to agree on Amerizone. I started it and maybe got halfway through. I keep saying I will go back to it but it didn't really grab me. Other games keeping getting my attention.

Wow, I just discovered this thread today (was not on much over the holiday weekend), and already 5 pages! Hot topic, I guess!

Anyhow, I 2nd the vote for "Chateau D'Or". A game that could have been, but wasn't!

Louis

This was a good thread. I Really enjoyed it. It seems a lot of us are on the same page.

You mean the prom date that went on to become a star on Broadway? (Who'd have thought that thousands of people would pay to catch a glimpse of her?)

My vote -- Lighthouse. If you can repair your own car, you should take Lighthouse for a spin. If you can't, don't.

Oh Wow, Becky! I would never have thought "Lighthouse" would show up in this thread! It is one of my Favorites, right up there with "Shivers" and "Tex" Of course, I even played "KQ8" all the way through, twice...while hating to hear "`Tis beyond my reach" :-) Glynn

Becky: It still stuns me that The Crystal Key has been AC/DC's #1 seller. I can only assume that Syberia will soon surpass it. Syberia may not have been my favorite game, but it is light-years better than CK.

New Adeventures of the Time Machine - The constant change in perspective is extremly annoying. Also I didn't know when I bought it that it would have action sequences. I'm not good at them. I can't get pass the jail section. On my screen the game is so dark that if I turn Wells invisible he actually is invisible so I can't see him to move him pas the guards. I can't fight my way out so I gave up.

Riven and Lighthouse - I like character intereaction not an endless stream of puzzles with no logic too them. I've never played Myst or it would probably be on my list.

<img border="0" alt="" title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" />

I come to think of two games that I definitely don't want to recommend

The Ward & Nightlong

This thread is still going?
Rusty

that would be yuppers, Rusty!

I'll put my two cents in here as well:

• Versailles II ........... sorry, Rusty.
• Killing Time..............this one really makes me hate shooters
• Adventures at Chateau D'or ................bored me silly <img border="0" alt="" title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" />

Inferno

I never said that I do not love Kofun, I love it so much that I am still playing it on and off after almost a year. Time stands still when I play it and I hardly get anywhere.

I feel the same about Blue Ice too. LOL

I would un-recommend

"Myst"
"Time Machine"
"Historion"

Don't be sorry, Inferno! I never said I liked it and I would certainly not recommend it. Very poor game all-around.
Rusty

Rusty, Maybe you should put together an untwisted list - or the straight story

We could all say the 10 games we would not recommend and take it from there.

You'd probably get a lot of anti votes for Myst then - not because it's the worst game, but because so many people have played it and a certain percentage of gamers don't like first person games or "lonely" games. That's the trouble with an "anti" sort of list.

Crystal Key was the game I played after finishing Myst III Exile. Unlike the Myst series, where you were given clues as to what needed done when you encounter something, Crystal Key had almost none of that. Aside from the clue to the first key, in a book in the basement of the house, you received no other clues as to what needed done beyond that point. And if that weren't bad enough, in my mind, some of the things you needed to use were not placed in a position of clear viewing, as in being almost off the screen. Being able to see only a hint of something lying there is not the proper way to display something. Riddle of the Sphinx was a snap compared to Crystal Key.

Howdy

Maybe you could have an ~anti~twisty list IF you specified reasons for putting a title there besides "I dont this genre" (ie first person/ puzzle games). I would like to know which ones people found the most buggy, illogical, endless etc. I generally dont like horror for ex, so my opinions on those games arent worth much to an afficionado.

I thought Crystal Key was okay (accept for the action bits on the spaceship). Pretty in places. Pixel hunting required etc

Anyone else on here getting that "near miss" feeling from some of these entries? I barely passed on "Mystery of the Druids" & "Final Cut" (nearly bought that yesterday!)

I have yet to play Bureau 13 or Time Machine but they are currently peering at me nervously from my stack. I will probably still try them but I sure am glad I didnt pay much!

I know there are games I dropped with a resounding thud liking nothing about them (I liked Labyrinth of Time until it became frustrating) but they are hiding their titles in the frightened corners of my conciousness whispering "Dont make me come out! PLEASE dont make me come out"



Susan

PS I find it incredible anyone could *not* love Myst & Riven! AARRRGGHH matey! Belay that heretical talk, I have a plank, a sword, and a 3-headed monkey to make ya walk it!AAAARRRGGHHH

PPS What is Kofun about?
edited: nevermind found the review for "Sacred Mirror of Kofun" on here (plus others on google, where it was dubbed Kofun the Nofun.)

I think there's been something worthwhile in most of the games I've played but one that really aggravated and would URGE everyone NOT to play is The Forgotten. It was too short and there was no ending. It was like a game demo. I was really enjoying despite the bugginess (especially with Quicktime) but when I got to the end it was like a rude slap in the face: to be continued. Well, it wasn't continued and it left me feeling very angry. I wouldn't want to see anyone go through that. The worst part is that it had such potential.

Robot World, very tedious, never really felt like I was getting anywhere

Shivers II, probably because I was expecting something better from the makers of Shivers I

Schizm, didn't like anything about this game.

Myst, although I did enjoy the following two

Schizm - the most buggy pain in the neck game. When you do get the dang thing working the puzzles make no sense (and that's before my copy keeps defaulting into the Polish language). Haven't finished it. Probably never will.

Another game that hasn't raised a vote yet, but definitely should is Chaos. I played it so long ago I can't actually remember the storyline, but it gave no clue as to what the puzzles were, or how to solve them.

Hey! We loved Chaos! Errr.... assuming you mean Chaos: A Fantasy Adventure Game. It was offbeat, funny, and a good mix of puzzle difficulty.

Forget "The Forgotten"

I will be sure to remember that

Susan