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A stupid guy is making money out of free games #123847
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A stupid guy is making money out of free games




Can somebody who is good at hacking just mess his '^&"*&^^& computer up please?

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Re: A stupid guy is making money out of free games #123848
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I ran a search at Alltheweb.com about the first game that I didn't know about and it seems that he/she is selling more than just free adventures...

here

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I know these games are all available for download, but if you look at the bottom there is a faint copyright credit to Islona Entertainment.

I looked up the company on the web and it appears that they are the copyright holders for 6th Sense Investigations and put together the original compilation CD that is now for sale at EBay. Islona Ent Adventure CD

Originally it retailed at 29.00. I don't think this is a ripped version, but a re-seller of the original CD. The disc label is the same. I'll keep checking though. smile

OK I finally found a link to the company itself and it appears they are no longer around. They were retailing classic Amiga and other games on CD's.

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Laura, do you know where we can download the 6th Sense Investigations? It looks sooo nice...

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Aparently as you can read in this thread in the Tierra forums they definitely didn't have the rights to include KQ1 remake, not the other ones either and not only that but they endagered the future of Tierra by this stupid action...


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Re: A stupid guy is making money out of free games #123852
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Bastet,

I finally found a mention of this game at Adventure Archive. Both CineTech and EpicMarketing the original developers/publishers are non-locatable on the web. Although all the other games on the CD for sale can be found online for free download - not so with Sixth Sense. frown

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Dimidimidimi,

We almost posted at the same time - so I didn;t see your post right away. I had that exact feeling. The Sixth Sense game is older and was released on a CD. But the others all have active sites and developers. This seemed so wrong to me, so I sent a link to the EBay site to all 4 of them and asked whether it was an authorized version. From reading the Tierra forum link - I know the answer to that question now. frown

Seems to me - they should go after this guy/store. I was happy to see that they are considering a united approach against this rip off. GRRRRRR

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For those of you who want to download Ignac, a cute lucasartsy kind of adventure, but extremely short (will take you about 10 minutes to finish) here is the download page:

http://www.downloadfreegames.co.uk/games/details.asp?id=55

I can't wait for ignac 2 that is supposed to be a normal game and with a better interface/less pixel-hunting.

As for those of you who haven't tried KQ2 remake yet, then stop what you're doing and head directly to

www.tierraentertainment.com

to download one of the best adventures ever. Laura I share your anger and I hope that they will stop these stupid persons.

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Dimi:

Take a look at some of this guy's Ebay negative feedback. One buyer says the Tetris disk he got had a message on it to scan for viruses. Another says that the FM Sim disk consisted of a bunch of demos and another buyer said he had been sent a pirated disk. Seems to be a pattern here; you gotta admit he's resourceful.

Let's see, I can burn a CD with Zork 1,2,3. Burn another CD with the Post Mortem demo. Finish it up with a CD of Dimi's Inventory 1-3 and sell the whole thing on Ebay as a 3-Disk Adventure Gamer's bundle for hmmmmmm $19.99!

Thanks for exposing this dude- I hope the companies with the original copyrights will put a stop to it (especially Tierra- here they make these great games (KQ1&2 remakes) for free and some twerps try to make money off it!).

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I do not download much from the internet because I find so much of it is, frankly, confusing to me in the way it is presented. The links above to KQ1 and KQ2 for downloading are fine but at these download locations are also music downloads, etc. It doesn't say.....at least I didn't see that it did, but are these downloads necessary for playing the game? I understand the "patches" but not the others.

Sign me...... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" /> and <img border="0" alt="woozy" title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" /> but laugh


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Re: A stupid guy is making money out of free games #123857
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That is a shame....... frown

Does anyone know where to get "Monster Manor" online? I haven't seen that one anywhere.....

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Hi Snowmoon,
You can find it here, along with alot of other games:
http://www.ambrosine.com/


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Just heard from Tierra (developers of the two KQ remakes)

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Yes, a number of people have brought this to our attention. This guy is selling these CDs illegally and without our permission. We've contacted him and asked him to remove them. We are currently awaiting his reply.

Tierra's games will never be sold for money. They'll always be free
downloads. If you see someone charging money for them, it's someone who's
taken the game without our permission and is doing it for their own selfish
benefit.

Thanks for the concern.
Thank you Dimidimidimi for posting about this. Obviously, there are always those who will prey on others creative efforts to line their own pockets. frown

Laura





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Thanks, Brave Lady Laura and Sir Dimidimidimi! wave

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You are wonderful yourself, Bastet <img border="0" alt="[kiss]" title="" src="graemlins/kiss.gif" />

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Hi.

Have to hope this silly behaviour gets nipped in the bud mad

These Tierra "game remakes" are just marvellous and give us another taste of what true adventuring was once really like happydance

Cheers.

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BillyBob, on the King's Quest Tierra games you can download the basic game and will be able to play just fine. If you download the speech packs, there will be voices in the game as well as text to read; the music download will add a nice soundtrack. Not necessary for the games, but the speech and music do enhance them. smile

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Quote:
Originally posted by friedmonky:
Hi Snowmoon,
You can find it here, along with alot of other games:
http://www.ambrosine.com/
Thanks! wave

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Okay - some will understand, and others will not... Dimitri - Look I got it right!

Yeah, it's a shame. I surely hope it doesn't cause any problems for Tierra.

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Hi Inland - congrats laugh (yep, I knew what you were referring to) and nope, I'm not "the spy" wink


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This guy was left feedback on 12/7/02 from someone warning that the CD might not be original, so the seller claims he has a copyright on the CD.
This is another one like the one demidemidemi found. So he has already sold at least one if not more.


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Quote:
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BillyBob, on the King's Quest Tierra games you can download the basic game and will be able to play just fine. If you download the speech packs, there will be voices in the game as well as text to read; the music download will add a nice soundtrack. Not necessary for the games, but the speech and music do enhance them. smile
Marian, I found the music download, but where is the one for speech... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="confused.gif" />


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Jenny, only KQ1 has a speech version. KQ2 remake only has a music pack, which you do not need to run KQ2, but it is highly recommended to install it also, since then the music quality will be much superior to the MIDI version.


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Thanks, Dimi, I'll download it then. I wonder why they did speech in #1 but not in #2? But it's no big deal, I've played other very good games (like Passage) that didn't have speech...


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I looked at this guys EBAY site, and he sells all kind of compelations of games and other software. He puts a fancy label on the CD's so they 'look' authentic!

I noticed he has over 60 negative feedbacks, but more than 2000 possitives. I guess with sites like the now defunct Napster and others like it, most people just don't see this for what it is... stealing! (or they just don't care!)

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I Do remember the agapito and other games being made available on Ebay UK, I steered clear as I didn't recognise the games and thought that if we needed an emulator to play, it wasn't 100% Kosher. ie a rip of an older game. This was about 6 months ago....

I think we are back into the freeware/abandonware saga with this.. Someone bothered to create the game, oh for a scenario where we could just send a royalty to the creator and be allowed to play!!

The other thing these guys do is create a fake id for Ebay, use it for a while, then start pushing bogus stuff. Not sure if this guy comes into this category, but it Does happen.

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Hi tigger,

read your mail. Sorry about my 'hacker' comments in the beginning of this thread, but I was really angry with the guy. It really annoys me when someone tries to get money out of something that those who worked for it, give it out for free.


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I wonder why they did speech in #1 but not in #2? But it's no big deal, I've played other very good games (like Passage) that didn't have speech...
it's because KQ2VGA is a *much* bigger game than their first remake (with a lot more dialogue). the KQ2 download was already 40+ MB and they didn't want their downloads to be prohibitive since online distribution is their only distribution.

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No need to apologise Dimi, I'm sure quite a lot of us feel the same way smile

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The item has been closed down by Ebay. I want to thank everybody who helped in this.

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Congrats, Dimi... and all who helped! wave

... but he still has lots of stuff to sell at e-bay, some are obvious freewares on CDR's.

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i followed the link to this guy's website and saw that one of the other CDs he sells contains children's software, including some disney stuff. my impression is that disney is very protective of their copyright (they challenged the copyright law to the supreme court recently because they don't want mickey mouse to become public domain...) anyway, i have a friend who works at Disney home video, i'm hoping she can send me an email address for someone in the legal department so this will be looked into.

-emily

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What do you mean, closed down? What happend to all the bids I placed for these CDs??? Boooo Hooooo!

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Hmmm, I hope ebay's legal team goes after this guy for including those freeware games on the cd without proper authorization. I did notice on the website link on the first page of this thread, the site kinda implied that the user wasn't paying for the freeware games. It acted like the user was paying to receive Sixth Sense Investigations and the other games were thrown in for free. Of course, it doesn't mention anywhere that they were free to begin with! So, wrong wrong wrong not to give any credit for developers. Very shady.


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I read this thread yesterday, and as I do a lot of buying, along with a little selling, on Ebay, it really burned me that these people are out there still trying to scam anyone they can. I sent an email to the Ebay investigations team regarding this guy, along with the link to this thread for a little background. I just received an email that they would definately investigate further, but that their policy prohibits them from giving me any details of their progress.

After reading the last few replies, guess I don't need a progress report afterall!! laugh laugh laugh

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I too sent it to a contact at eBay UK.. the manager of the sports division. He sent it on to the gaming chap, so I can always ask if other action is being taken smile

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Well done! I love it when folks get together and take action. Take that evildoers, GBers are on your tail. Booya!

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I have to admit that the folks from Gameboomers along with the folks from the Tierra forums were the ones that took action more than anyone else. Congratulations boomers! You are one hell of a group of adventurers (in the good meaning - just writing this because another term I used before, bomb, got misunderstood smile )

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