Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124389
12/10/02 12:33 PM
12/10/02 12:33 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 352 Michigan
taf4
Settled Boomer
|
Settled Boomer
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 352
Michigan
|
Interesting topic I have to say that I think a few of those things have been seen... #1: I believe the main character in Faust is black. you just don't see him much cause it's a 1st person game. #2: In city of lost children you play as a child #3: The space bar takes place largely in a nightclub i think, although I haven't played that one :0 However, I couldn't agree with you more on #8! I would LOVE to see a good drama as an adventure game, rather than pure fantasy. I'll take a dramatic movie over a fantasy one any day.. I like adventure games because of the thinking involved, not because of the setting usually. I am curious to see how many agree
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124391
12/10/02 12:46 PM
12/10/02 12:46 PM
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 334 the Netherlands
Betje
Settled Boomer
|
Settled Boomer
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 334
the Netherlands
|
Originally posted by dimidimidimi:
1) Black people... Have you played any adventure where the main hero was black? I don't remember any (btw I'm not black but I just thought it was strange)
6) An FMV comedy
In Obsidian one of the two main characters is Max. He's black. You, the player, are his white girlfriend and colleague. And I'd LOVE to see an FMV comedy! Fat chance... Betje
The beaded curtain slams shut behind you. There's no turning back now...
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124392
12/10/02 01:29 PM
12/10/02 01:29 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,159 Arlington, WA, US
Cynch
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 1,159
Arlington, WA, US
|
I agree with all of your post... in particular, I am also very sick of going to Egypt. I was very disappointed when the sequel to the Cameron Files turned to that tired location. I'd actually like to see more games like FAUST where the focus is on individual characters and their motives. But what I would like to see most of all is the adaption of great books/movies into adventure games. The Maltese Falcon comes to mind, as I love private eye stories. I suppose the copyright laws would be prohibitive in this regard, but wouldn't it be fun to have your favorite book/movie turned into an adventure game? Cynch
"Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take but by the moments that take our breath away."
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124393
12/10/02 01:57 PM
12/10/02 01:57 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644 southeast USA
Jenny100
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
|
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Sonic Boomer
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
|
1) Black people... In Maniac Mansion you can choose a black character at the start of the game. And in 1st person games where you never see your character in a cut scene, how do you know that you're not black? Are you a black person in Shivers or Myst or Byzantine or Amber or ? 2) Children Sanitarium had one level where you play as a little girl - and another level where you can turn into a little girl. In Maniac Mansion and Day of the Tentacle you play children. And then there are children's games, like Carmen Sandiego, Ally's Adventures, etc. I don't know if the Famous Five games are strictly for children, but you play children in those. 6) An FMV comedy Toonstruck ...but I'm getting tired of travelling to Egypt One problem is that they never find anything new or original there. It's always the same old stuff.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124394
12/10/02 02:02 PM
12/10/02 02:02 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,064 Northern California
AngieB
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: Oct 2001
Posts: 1,064
Northern California
|
Personally I am happy NOT to have to control any children in games--it's an escape for me! <img border="0" alt=" " title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" />
Angie
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124395
12/10/02 02:07 PM
12/10/02 02:07 PM
|
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,805 Kentucky, USA
acornia
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 3,805
Kentucky, USA
|
Not much into adaptations but wouldn't mind seeing Ellery Queen type mysteries or games based on th show Relic Hunter. Also wouldn't mind going back into the past like they did in The Messenger and seeing how a place changes over time or have always wanted to see the Babylonian Gardens. Also think that Journey to the Center of the Game ought to have a kid brother/sister along. Andre Norton's Time Traders or Solarian books would let them have free rein on creating worlds. Wonder if fairy tales would translate well like The Firebird or some of the greek myths. Though mostly would like to see a space series started. One where you got a trading/exploring/ranger ship that ends up having to solve a mystery at each port or finds some derelicts in space. One in which you could see all different types of cultures. Piers Anthony's Steppe gives a fascinating glimpse into a well-known historical character and those times.
Never resist a generous impulse.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124396
12/10/02 02:25 PM
12/10/02 02:25 PM
|
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 4,553 Los Angeles
ray
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 4,553
Los Angeles
|
What a great topic!
I AGREE that we need rest from
Atlantean Maya Egyptian Timewarp!
Adventures.
I'd love to see an FMV adventure that takes place in an office. A murder mystery.
Procrastinate NOW!! Don't put it off!!
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124397
12/10/02 04:06 PM
12/10/02 04:06 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,565 Pennsylvania, USA (left my bel...
mszv
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,565
Pennsylvania, USA (left my bel...
|
Originally posted by acornia: ..Though mostly would like to see a space series started. One where you got a trading/exploring/ranger ship that ends up having to solve a mystery at each port or finds some derelicts in space. One in which you could see all different types of cultures... Yes, oh yes! I'd also like to see fantantic new planets, lots of varied topology and flora and fauna. Not to mention fantastic space scenes! Acornia, you'll just have to pull together a development team!
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124398
12/10/02 04:19 PM
12/10/02 04:19 PM
|
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,424 WA. USA
lasanidine
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: May 2001
Posts: 3,424
WA. USA
|
I am not much into adaptations either they usually do not turn out well. I prefer original stories. Some of the most successful games were based on original stories, like Amber, Amerson, Faust, Syberia. They all had to do with human emotions and drama. I would like to see some stories with interaction with different life forms. Schizm scratched the surface of this with the symbiotic interaction of living spaces and locomotion. I do not desire to replay something I have seen on TV and was not enchanted with the first place. I do not mind going to Egypt if it is well done since we hardly scratched the surface of all the possibilities and I do not mind seeing its treasures but surly there are other stories possible that do not include Mummies chasing you hither and yon. I agree with Ray, we had enough Mummies already!
"I am not young enough to know everything."
Oscar Wilde
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124399
12/10/02 04:33 PM
12/10/02 04:33 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 318 Tennessee, USA
DanF
Settled Boomer
|
Settled Boomer
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 318
Tennessee, USA
|
Originally posted by ray: I'd love to see an FMV adventure that takes place in an office. A murder mystery. We have that already. Well, maybe only kinda sorta. It's called Phantasmagoria 2.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124400
12/10/02 04:45 PM
12/10/02 04:45 PM
|
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 5,107 New Orleans, LA. USA
nolalou
BAAG Specialist
|
BAAG Specialist
Joined: Feb 2000
Posts: 5,107
New Orleans, LA. USA
|
You play a black woman in "Lost in Time" from Cocktel Vision. ( I did a google search on this, and found a "Lost in Time 2", was there a sequel to this that I missed!!)
For FMV comedy, the only one I can think of is "Fork in the Tale" , which was a strange but fun game. (but it got panned by reviewers, and didn't sell well. In fact, the production company never produced any other games and went out of buisness after the game was released).
As for a war game, there are many stratagy games like "Age of Empires", but I'm not sure how this would work as an adventure.
There have been several games featureing lawyers. In addition to "Law and Order", there was "In the 1st Degree" where you have to successfuly prosecute a murderer. This one is FMV too! And lets not forget "Syberia", Kate is a lawyer too!
Louis
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124401
12/10/02 06:26 PM
12/10/02 06:26 PM
|
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 4,553 Los Angeles
ray
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 4,553
Los Angeles
|
mszv, I've got a game for you, if you haven't played it: Anachronox. Talk about fantantic new planets, lots of varied topology and flora and fauna. Not to mention fantastic space scenes.
But maybe you've played it; I can't remember.
Procrastinate NOW!! Don't put it off!!
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124403
12/10/02 07:27 PM
12/10/02 07:27 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,565 Pennsylvania, USA (left my bel...
mszv
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,565
Pennsylvania, USA (left my bel...
|
Originally posted by ray: mszv, I've got a game for you, if you haven't played it: Anachronox. Talk about fantantic new planets, lots of varied topology and flora and fauna. Not to mention fantastic space scenes.
But maybe you've played it; I can't remember. Thanks Ray. It is a gorgeous looking game. I haven't played it, but then I haven't played any RPGs. Oh, I'm still trying to get Morrowind to run on my desktop, don't think that exactly counts. I was hoping that an adventure game would have those characteristics, but I'll give anachronox a try.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124404
12/10/02 07:39 PM
12/10/02 07:39 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644 southeast USA
Jenny100
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
|
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Sonic Boomer
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
|
Originally posted by nolalou: You play a black woman in "Lost in Time" from Cocktel Vision. ( I did a google search on this, and found a "Lost in Time 2", was there a sequel to this that I missed!!)
I asked about this once. Apparently Lost in Time was originally published in 2 parts in Europe. But in the USA it was published as one game.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124405
12/10/02 07:44 PM
12/10/02 07:44 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644 southeast USA
Jenny100
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
|
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Sonic Boomer
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
|
Originally posted by acornia: Wonder if fairy tales would translate well like The Firebird or some of the greek myths. Wasn't there a game being developed that was Based on a Russian fairy tale? I remember downloading a little trailer for it a few months ago.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124406
12/10/02 08:11 PM
12/10/02 08:11 PM
|
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 22,381 Seattle Washington USA
Witchen
True Blue Boomer
|
True Blue Boomer
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 22,381
Seattle Washington USA
|
Hi there, Jenny1....Here is a demo/download of the game Fairy Tale . It has been out there since last January and I haven't heard anymore about the game since. I'll see what I can find out.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124407
12/10/02 09:46 PM
12/10/02 09:46 PM
|
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 9,329 ex-new yorker
Zanthia
BAAG Specialist
|
BAAG Specialist
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 9,329
ex-new yorker
|
Originally posted by mszv: It is a gorgeous looking game. I haven't played it, but then I haven't played any RPGs. Oh, I'm still trying to get Morrowind to run on my desktop, don't think that exactly counts.
I was hoping that an adventure game would have those characteristics, but I'll give anachronox a try. Mszv, If you haven't played any RPG's Morrowind is the not best one to start wtih. But Annachronox is a good one. It really is more of a hybrid adventure/RPG. Play it on easy and combat is quite simple plus there isn't a whole of combat in the game to begin with. There are parts of the game where you can easily play for a couple of hours without having a fight and those parts will feel more like an adventure game. The game is in the bargain bin now so you really should check it out.
Zanthia
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124408
12/10/02 09:54 PM
12/10/02 09:54 PM
|
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644 southeast USA
Jenny100
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
|
GB Reviewer Glitches Moderator
Sonic Boomer
Joined: Oct 2000
Posts: 40,644
southeast USA
|
Originally posted by Witchen: Hi there, Jenny1....Here is a demo/download of the game [b]Fairy Tale . [/b] Now how do you suppose they came up with a name like that? I followed a link from that site and found out that the Czech version is already out. I couldn't see anything about the English version though - or whether it will be published in the USA or not.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124409
12/10/02 10:55 PM
12/10/02 10:55 PM
|
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 22,381 Seattle Washington USA
Witchen
True Blue Boomer
|
True Blue Boomer
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 22,381
Seattle Washington USA
|
Yeah, isn't that a clever title though! I did ask them about an English full game version. We'll see if they respond. Stacey and Ray: I just bought Anachronox.......we shall see about this little bit of combat business..... bwhahahahaha. Love, Witchen =O)
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124411
12/11/02 03:46 AM
12/11/02 03:46 AM
|
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 2,027 USA
Advpuzlov
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: Jun 1999
Posts: 2,027
USA
|
I thought BYZANTINE was an interesting "Crime Drama". It had a slight "science fiction" element, but it was entirely appropriate to the story. Would that there were more like it.
It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -- Aristotle
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124412
12/11/02 10:09 AM
12/11/02 10:09 AM
|
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,171 an Illinois cornfield
Jen in Chgo
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: Jun 2000
Posts: 3,171
an Illinois cornfield
|
I don't care what color, size, race, species, or gender my character is. I'm going to become that person/alien/species when I play. Variety is the spice of life. When else would I get to be anything but what I am? (ok besides Halloween) As for locations, I'm a huge fan of the spooky amusement park setting & I know it's been done, but I think there's a few more games in there before it's Egypt. (and the fact that I can't get Panic in the Park to run). I'd also like to see a setting like in the Stephen King mini-series "Rose Red" where the building is continually changing & growing. Toss your maps out the window! There are several movies that would make great games. Unfortunatly the gaming companies realize this & produce ACTION games accordingly. I'd like to play "Resident Evil" only with no zombie or guard dog combat. But puzzles where you can die against that computer would suffice I'd think. Even more so than movies, which are generally made into action or shooters, books are good sources. I think that Stephen King's novel, "The Stand" would make an excellent game. Yes I like Stephen King but there's many many others that would make good adventure stories with less used settings. As for careers, I'd like to see a special effects artist or something...imagine what fun you could have! Here's an idea....What about being Ace Ventura Pet Detective? Love, Jen
It's a hard-knock life. Wear wooden underwear.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124413
12/11/02 11:25 AM
12/11/02 11:25 AM
|
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 22,381 Seattle Washington USA
Witchen
True Blue Boomer
|
True Blue Boomer
Joined: May 1999
Posts: 22,381
Seattle Washington USA
|
I fully agree about BYZANTINE, Advpuzlov!!! Its one unique and engaging game, that's for sure. I'd like to see a remake of this one. The technology has advanced significantly since '97, to put it mildly. A smoother running game engine would make this one superb play! Great game. One of my standout favorites! ------------------------------ Thanks for the encouragement on Anachronox, Reenie. I am really looking forward to trying it out. Will have to switch back over to my Sony 450 with Win98, but that'll be fun for a change. I'll probably play it before Pharaoah's Curse and Ghost Dogs. Love, Witchen =O)
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124415
12/11/02 01:30 PM
12/11/02 01:30 PM
|
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 9,329 ex-new yorker
Zanthia
BAAG Specialist
|
BAAG Specialist
Joined: Nov 1999
Posts: 9,329
ex-new yorker
|
Originally posted by Witchen:
Stacey and Ray: I just bought Anachronox.......we shall see about this little bit of combat business.....) Well it may seem like a lot to you but relatively compared to other RPG's it is not a lot.
Zanthia
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124416
12/11/02 03:08 PM
12/11/02 03:08 PM
|
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,565 Pennsylvania, USA (left my bel...
mszv
Addicted Boomer
|
Addicted Boomer
Joined: Mar 2002
Posts: 1,565
Pennsylvania, USA (left my bel...
|
OK Zanthia, Ray, Reenie, and everyone, I'll give Anacronox a try. I'll look for in at my local Fry's Electronics.
As for Morrowind, I'm not giving up yet. Yeah, I know Zanthia, it's not the RPG to start with, but it truely is the only RPG I ever wanted to play.
On, things we haven't seen in adventures - how about a massively multiplayer online adventure? Myst Online will be out in 2003 (probably late). I know most of us adventure gamers aren't interested in multiplayer online games, but I'm going to give this one a try. I'll let you know when it's out. Maybe I can meet some gameboomers in the world.
All for now.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124419
12/13/02 11:57 PM
12/13/02 11:57 PM
|
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 903 Sweden
Gog
Settled Boomer
|
Settled Boomer
Joined: Aug 1999
Posts: 903
Sweden
|
Hey Dimi. Check out "Blackout". Pure adventure, very dark (quite alot of it takes place in a night club)and it differs from anything I´ve played. In a good way that is. Sorta reminiscent of Sanatarium. Since it´s a Swedish game - it shouldn´t be so hard to find. Come to think of it..it might be from Denmark. Whatever, it´s a very disturbing and good game
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124420
12/14/02 12:10 AM
12/14/02 12:10 AM
|
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,663 Massachusetts
friedmonky
Adept Boomer
|
Adept Boomer
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,663
Massachusetts
|
I checked quite a few different sites and searches for "Blackout" and came up with nothing. Could you provide some sort of a link? Thanks!
Even monkeys fall from trees sometimes.
|
|
|
Re: Things we haven't seen in adventures
#124422
12/14/02 12:04 PM
12/14/02 12:04 PM
|
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 77 NJ
IBlade_IRunner
Shy Boomer
|
Shy Boomer
Joined: Jul 2002
Posts: 77
NJ
|
Well, most of the things that you wrote about DimiX3 are in Blade Runner. Let me elaborate: 1) Black People Sadik is black, though mot the main character but hes one of the important characters in the game. 2) Children Lucy shes a child, you can`t play with her but you can control how she reacts later on, based on the path you take in the game. 3) Nightclub During your investigation, you will have to go to 2 Nightclubs to investigate. 4) War Well, technically there isn`t a war one earth but there is conflict between humans and replicants. 5) Drama Theres some drama in the game. Like when Steele died in last part of the game. Or life on earth where replicants aren`t allowed, and you have to retire them, well you can choose not too. 6) Theres comedy in the game also but not in FMV. 7) Fan Well none that i can think of that are in the game. 8) Lawyers Don`t need em. Basically you just shoot replicants . Lol, i feel like i`m promoting the game. I guess Blade Runner is one of those adventures it`s hard to come by.
|
|
|
|
|