#126736 - 03/25/04 04:29 PM
Beyond Good and Evil
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I just finished my first mission and am going into the the underground headquarters to get a pearl back. I've made it this far without cheats but only because they didn't work with my version of the game Anyway, I need to rebind some of my keys if I'm going to get into harder and harder fighting and I can't seem to figure out where I can do that. Any hints or outright explanations? AND...if anyone wants to share some working cheats "just in case" (like the final boss fight)...I'd be eternally grateful.
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#126738 - 03/25/04 09:49 PM
Re: Beyond Good and Evil
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Registered: 11/01/99
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burpee,
i see you found out that htere is a separate config program. i never lile that when you have to go outside the gmae to change keys.
i played wihtout the patch and there are no wroking cheats. i don't know if there are any trainers that work with thepatched version. no cheat codes though.
i purposely did not install the patch as i read that there is a dead end bug in it.
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#126740 - 03/26/04 07:15 AM
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Registered: 03/07/02
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Loc: Kentucky
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Hi Burpee, I made it to the final boss and then gave up. I managed to get all the pearls and pictures of the animals, with the help of my Granddaughter a couple of times. I couldn't beat the final boss. I would have loved the game, if they had put in a easy mode for some of us who are not very good with the keyboard. The game disc you get for getting all the pearls sure isn't worth all the trouble you have trying to get some of them. You don't need all the pearls to finish the game. Good Luck! Kay 
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#126741 - 03/26/04 10:37 AM
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Registered: 11/07/03
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Loc: Beaverton,OR
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Zanthia, I thought I knew what trainers were (as in the beginning of Hobbit). I think I have seen you mention them before and now I'm confused? Please explain. Lorlor
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#126742 - 03/26/04 04:12 PM
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a trainer is a 3rd party program. you run it in the background while the game is on. because it is based on a game's exe file, it will only work if your version of the game is the same as the one the trainer is made on. this includes patches and even what country the game is from, so a trainer made on say a UK version for the gmae may not work with the US version. cheat codes are always preferable to me as they are not version specific.
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#126743 - 03/27/04 03:48 AM
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Burpee, you asked about what the patch fixes-- BG&E what\'s new in patch
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#126744 - 03/27/04 05:33 AM
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Thank you Zanthia, I WILL be back with future questions. If you have any kids you know what you're in for!! (No I will not be asking why the sky is blue. I couldn't care less. . .unless it's part of a game.  ) Lorlor
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#126745 - 03/27/04 09:34 AM
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Registered: 06/16/00
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Loc: London, UK
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burpee, I just finished the game yesterday, and I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it to anyone who asks. I'm glad you're giving it a go.
I'm useless when it comes to combat and driving, yet managed to explore most of the areas in the game. I gave up on the races, but enjoyed the paddle game with Francis. I found a combat power up in Ming Tzu's shop to be invaluable, especially towards the end. You'll need to learn how to use it effectively, though. In the aerial phase of your standard power up attack, tapping the left mouse button will send out homing projectiles. Very handy for taking out flying enemies, or lots of nasties at one go.
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#126746 - 03/27/04 09:52 AM
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Registered: 12/14/00
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Loc: North aurora IL
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Thank you Zanthia...looks like I don't need it since I'm happy with the way it plays and looks. I also have not had any crashes (fingers crossed  ) Hi Feardust, I will go back and get the combat power up. I didn't bother buying Ming's pearls either as they are very expensive and I'm not that keen to get whatever prize I win at the end. I loved the races and beat 1 and 2 easily. I couldn't win at the pallet/paddle game if you paid me though, haha. Funny how we each are good at something different. For the races I used the arrows to guide the boat and held the power down the whole time. For the pallet/paddle game..well, I just can't aim or do it fast enough 
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#126747 - 03/27/04 11:29 AM
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Loc: London, UK
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Hi burpee. If you're enjoying the races and winning most of them, you don't need to buy pearls. There are more than enough in the game world for you to complete your missions, if you don't feel the need to unlock the mini game. If you want to take advantage of Ubisoft's internet code to unlock yet another game, however, a large number of pearls could work in your favour. The paddle game is frustrating at times, but I've noticed that Francis doesn't seem to be any more difficult to beat regardless of if you decide to play a training session or for the pearl. I was so bad on the races that during one course I was completely disorientated after a collision and ended up going the wrong way around the track. I kept wondering why I didn't see the other racers! <img border="0" alt="  " title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" />
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#126750 - 03/27/04 05:19 PM
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Kay,
did you have your granddaughter try the final battle. if she could get help you get all the pearls i would think she could do the battle.
i had to have my husband do many part so the gmae including lots stealth parts and the some of the boss battles as well as the races. i was only able to win the first race and do a couple of bosses on my own. he still couldn't win hovercraft race 4 or do the last 2 slaughterhouse races. yet once he got down the strategy for beating the final boss he said it wasn't hard at all. after doing hte first paddle game, he never even tried the second. there was no point as i wasn't going ot get all the pearls anyway and i was going to have more than enough to get everything. I was able to win a couple of times in practice( first paddle game) but couldn't do it when it counted even though it wasn't any tougher
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#126752 - 03/28/04 05:50 AM
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Loc: London, UK
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Kayc, with regards to the section of the final battle when the boss is above you: you shouldn't try to dodge it. You need to activate your range attack and quickly fire a disc at him. It will then repeat its pattern of attack.
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#126753 - 03/28/04 12:06 PM
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Registered: 03/07/02
Posts: 654
Loc: Kentucky
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Hi Feardust, Thanks! I went back and tried that today, but by the time I activate it and fire the disc, he has already knocked me down. I guess I'm just not fast enough. I will keep trying for awhile. I have enjoyed the game even if I can't finish the final battle. Thanks Kay
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#126754 - 03/28/04 04:47 PM
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kay,
this is what my husband said to do:
To beat this boss you need to hit when he appears on the Left, Right, Left and Right. He will then hover above you. When he is above you, you need to dodge him (right mouse button). After you dodge him he will then appear on either the right or left side - hit it. The pattern will then repeat itself. Important note: If you don't dodge him when he's above and then hit him on the side, you will not beat him no matter how many other times you hit him.
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#126755 - 03/28/04 05:18 PM
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You're welcome, Kayc. I didn't realise that there was an alternative solution until I read Zanthia's post. Her method sounds a lot easier and far more elegant. I must go back and play through the final boss fight again; I rather enjoyed it.
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#126759 - 03/29/04 07:30 PM
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Registered: 03/05/00
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Loc: Chalk River, Ontario, Canada
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Hey Zanthia,
I never even thought of dodging when I was playing (I wish I had, I might have beaten it faster). I just timed (though it had to be perfect and released just right and I got it wrong more than a few times) a charged attack and was able to hit him when he was above me.
Congrats, Kay.
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#126760 - 03/30/04 03:57 PM
Re: Beyond Good and Evil
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Vik,
i didn't think of it. WHen my husband was doing that battle and the boss never seemed to die, we realized something must be wrong with the way we were doing ht ehitting when he was above. so i went to the official forums and that is where i learned of the dodging is the easiest way to do it. other methids were mentioned including i thihk what you described as it did involve perfect timing.
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#126761 - 04/04/04 09:58 AM
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Registered: 12/14/00
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Loc: North aurora IL
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I tried (and died) to play through the final boss fight yesterday. No matter how many times I hit him, he didn't die. I come here and read the above. Now that I know I'm doing it wrong (haha) and want to beat him, I have a couple of questions. #1) I have gotten through the game fights by just wildly hitting buttons. How do I attack to the left or right? What buttons exactly do I hit to make her do certain moves? Let's say she facing the the big boss, straight front and the 3 eyed thing appears on her left. What do I do? #2) The super attack never worked for me during the game because I was always hit while powering up and that negates the powering sequence. I would hold the left mouse button until I saw a purple power glow, then release then tap wildly. If I held it any less nothing ever happened. Is something suppose to happen? I never beat the pallet game and this doesn't look any better, not when precision is needed 
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#126765 - 04/04/04 08:22 PM
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Well, I think the game took pity on me and let me finish, haha. Don't know how I managed the last two hits needed as that thing would follow me around the platform as I dodged it. I went around 5 times once before it struck me dead. I watched all the way to the very end of the credits. What's with that thing on Pey'j's hand? A sequel perhaps? How can one post a finishing score if it didn't let you save after the end fight? I'm off to Ubisoft to see if I can make sense of that 
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#126766 - 04/04/04 08:38 PM
Re: Beyond Good and Evil
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Registered: 03/07/02
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Congrats, Glad you made it. The code you have on your last save before your final battle is the one everyone has used, since you don't get to save after the battle. I couldn't tell what was on Pey'j's hand. They just showed it for a second. Let us know how you rank on the board. Kay
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#126768 - 04/05/04 03:54 PM
Re: Beyond Good and Evil
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i am going to load up my game and get my internet code.
burpee, i also constantly went back to save spots. i think the time issue only applies to getting a good score. it doesn't affect the ending.
i still find it hard to believe that a person can complete the game the first time through in under ten hours even without getting all pearls and photos.
and the devoted fans who replay and replay so they know the game inside out to be able to finish the game in less than 3 hours doing everything doesn't seem physically possible. i know they say they reload a lot and avoid battle as much as possible to keep the time down but to finish in such a short time-- wow!
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#126769 - 04/05/04 04:50 PM
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Maybe it's just my eyes but I thought that the person with the lowest score took only 9 minutes to finish the game. I also saw mention of FAST PLAY. I don't know what that is but I assumed it was a patch or something. My feeling about the game is that I enjoyed it, it was beautiful, tough in spots, innovative, I did not find it short, some of the camera view controls stunk but I'm glad I played it and I'm keeping it. I haven't taken it off my computer yet just in case someone tells me what Yo Yo pearl competition is and I need the game to play. If I don't it's coming off and another game goes on. I'm looking at Black Mirror...hmmmm 
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#126770 - 04/05/04 06:19 PM
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Loc: Kentucky
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Burpee, When you get all the pearls, the game gives you a game disc, called the pearl game. It was like your save game disc. I didn't get anywhere with it. Maybe that's what the Yo Yo Pearl competition is. I enjoyed the game and sure was not in a hurry to finish it fast. I'm like you, I didn't know there was a time issue on the game. If I had, I still wouldn't have gone any faster. I know, I raced that 4th race over 100 times. I'm going to forget about the Pearl game and play Syberia 2, if it ever gets here. Kay 
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#126771 - 04/05/04 07:07 PM
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Registered: 06/16/02
Posts: 1957
Loc: Kansas City, Missouri, USA
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I have this game for GameCube...and I just can't seem to get into it much. Do I need cheat codes or something to make it more fun, or am I just being too impatient??
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#126772 - 04/05/04 10:12 PM
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Kay, If I had Syberia 2, I'd be loading that one up too. Have a good time with it Geekgirl, Do you like these types of action games? Can you tell me what aspect of the game is stopping you from enjoying it. Maybe I can let you know if there is more or less of it later on in the game. Part of the reason that I liked it was that game made me care about my character. I liked the story development too and thought the puzzles (rather missions) fit into the storyline flawlessly. I really like 3rd person so that helped too. The fighting style is not much to my liking but that's because I haven't done much of it. I could find no cheats for the game and the trainer that I found didn't work with my game version. I think it is worth persevering a little more with the game. Photographing the animals is mostly in the beginning of the game to garner you some money to spend on goodies. Don't know if this helps since it's only my opinion but I'd like to see you give a little more. 
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#126773 - 04/06/04 08:28 AM
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Mostly for now, I'm just stuck and cant' figure out what to do next. That short guy is trying to fix something in the cave...I've snapped a few photos....got some money....gave it to him, I think....but now I can't do anything...have some sort of tool thing, but can't give it to anyone. I don't know...the graphics are lovely....can't figure out what to do next though.
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#126775 - 04/07/04 03:19 AM
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i checked out my code and it took a while to do this as i kept getting invalid code. My final save had a score of 6126.
kay, i think you are correct about the Yo Yo pearl being the game you get when you get all the pearls.
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#126776 - 04/07/04 05:38 AM
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Zanthia: That's a very respectable score. Well done.
I'm quite certain that the Yo Yo pearl mini game is the prize for collecting all 88 pearls in the game.
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