Finished Redemption and have started a replay of Planescape Torment. Torment was my first RPG and I couldn't finish it. Loved the game and now feel experienced enough to know not to get caught without healing!

Enjoyed Redemption very much but it was exceedingly hard on my eyes. ('Course Torment is pretty dark, too). I have Bloodlines installed and may jump over and give it a try.

Good for you Lucca! It sure does sound alot easier then what I went through. Not sure if I had that option or maybe your playing your character smarter then I am. What's next on your agenda? I recently killed the gargoyl in the chinese theatre. That was really tough. I am still in the sewers. HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I will get though it. LOL.
Pat

Peggy! Did you like the ending in Redemption? C'mon over to Bloodlines!

I'm really liking my torrie. She is really good with melee weapons. I haven't found a Utica Bay yet. I finished the warehouse & I even got the Traffik quest this time! I bought an axe from Fat Larry & he gave me the quest. I'm using "hack'n slash" because I get lost in the air ducts!

Way to go on the gargoyle, Pat. What did you use on him? I used the sledgehammer.

Barb

i am not using ranged weapons, since my melee skill is higher. don't you just love the way she fights with the knives? i heard we can get a sword next

I think that's what's supposed to happen with Nines. I didn't see any way out of it. It's very hard to not kill anyone in the museum. The ship was easier.

I haven't tried knives for my Torry. The fire axe seems to be her best weapon so far.I'm still working on the parking garage. You're right, Pat, it's tough.

Barb

you're right barb, the museum has turned into the biggest massacre in the game so far. i could've probably done it sneaky, i mean i got real far without killing anyone, but then i got greedy and decided to swipe the security manual, got seen, and murdered a bunch of cops in the process.
the garage is real tough if you don't use vents , barb. i'd advise the vents.

by the way, a crazy woman called samantha got me a masquerade violation!!!!! can i avoid that????

You CAN avoid the violation, but it takes high Intimidation or Persuasion. I couldn't do it, & got the violation. It shouldn't matter, you should get more redemptions later in the game.

I finished the garage & didn't use the vents. That was a massacre, too!

Barb

Barb, I didn't use any of the patches. I just think if it's not broke don't fix it. Besides, I think I read some where that the patch made things worse.
Lucca, when you bought the armor did you buy the axe? Is your armor red? I tried to sneak through the vents but coudln't get in any of them. So I did the 'hack n slash' approach. It was tough. But it seems I am not using my Torry to her fullest potential.
Pat

well, i scared the life out of samantha with my green conversation she left me alone.
yea, pat i have red armor, it's not very good, is it? i got the axe, but i hardly use it. you need to crouch to get into the vents. i don't know how i would've gotten this far without them.
am i supposed to have a haven in hollywood? LaCroix did not give me one, is it because of the massacre in the museum???

you know when this thread is finished we could turn it into one kick-ass walkthrough

I don't know of a haven in Hollywood. There should be one in Los Angeles if Lacroix gave it to you. I didn't get one the first time I played it, probably because I massacred the guys on the ship and the museum! It's not really necessary to have one. You can get your e-mail at your place in Santa Monica.

I finished the garage! Whew! Now I'm going to work on some of the side quests in LA. Did you find Redemption, Pat? If you're ready to play it, Lucca, I'll play with you.

Barb

well, i have the haven in downtown. i was just checking, i don't like to miss out on havens. this game is really time consuming, i haven't touched any other games in weeks.


i'm stuck in the junkyard, i keep getting hit by huge scraps of junk, moslty cars, and suffering final deaths. not cool! how did you guys get through?

In the junk yard I stuck close to the fence. I saw the guy going over a heap of cars. I followed him and he turned into a something else. We had conversation and then I killed him. I want to say he was from another clan, but I honestly can't remember exactly. But if you stick close to the fence you won't get hit. It was over very quickly when I played.
Oh, I killed the Gargoyle with the axe. I have the sledghammer now and it seems to work better.
Help! I'm in the sewers that are numbered. I get to a place when I need a card. There are some nasty monsters down here. Three different types and two of the types are huge and hard to kill. I finally resorted to a walkthrough and it said I should have picked up a card key from a corpse. Well, I can't find him and I'm running out of strenth. Blood is fine though.
Oh about the armor, it IS excellent. You can fight and not loose any or hardly any blood. I were it always when I know I'll be fighting.

Did you find the card, Pat? I can't remember just where you are.

Did you get the killer, Lucca? If you think Bloodlines is time consuming, wait til you play Redemption! I even forget to eat when I'm playing that one!

I'm going to be out of town for about a week starting Sunday. We're getting out of the cold & going to Alabama. You guys will probably be finished by the time I get back. If we stay somewhere that I can get an internet connection, I'll check in & see how everyone is doing.

Barb

barb you can't leave town! not with all the crazy stuff going on!

i didn't kill the gargoyle at all pat, i convinced him to join forces with isaac. he seemed too tough to beat. stone skin and all.
you can find more armor at the red spot, i think it adds three to defense and looks quite classy too. it's called light leather armor.

Well, I did finally find the card. I had to go back in with those mean freaks. The card was laying next to a skeleton. I used the knife for the first time and it seemed to be the only way to bring down those 2/3 headed beasts.
That gargoyle didn't seem to want to talk to me at all. I didn't think I was ever going to kill. I think I used the sledge hammer on him.
Barb, have a great time in Alabama. When I get a chance I'll go shopping to look for Redemption.
Pat