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#129027 - 08/20/03 05:39 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Well I went in a took a peek see.
I chose to create my own character, I need to read more, but I just wanted to try a few things out.
There is a variety of choosing and it explains what the point system is and how it works. Which I liked. I thought it explained things well.
Of course, I didn't play but a little bit, again need to read to see what's what, but I loved the voices and sound, not sure I like being at such a distance, but that reminds me of DD, whih I loved, and I've been playing Morrowind-so major difference.
I have a long sword, which I like and can use magic which I love. Looks like most games, you have to get use to the skills and level up.
Going back to Morrowind, but still excited about Lionheart.
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#129028 - 08/20/03 07:10 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Actually, respecting the need for tank skils, my thief does have 50 in one-handed melee weapons, and every now and then I put more points into this. So she can give a good whack when it's needed. At the moment I am stocking up on sneaking points so that I can acquire that all important Backstab, which gives 50% increased damage.

I'm about to tackle the Fire Trolls - I ran into them a while back, took a couple of good looks and left. I've done quite a few of the Barcelona quests so at level 7 (or maybe 8 by the time I get to them) I feel ready for the trolls. I suspect that an ice-based spell would work best.

However, I must be completely stoopid, because I can't find the Beggars to complete the Thieves quest...I've killed one Beggar, but that's it - I was expecting the rest to just attack, but nobody did.
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#129029 - 08/20/03 08:00 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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I'm finding the Lava Trolls pretty easy. I've developed a technique that works well. Because the spells have to recharge between uses, the way to handle combat as a caster is cast spell, melee hit, cast spell, melee hit, and so on. Once I have the Backstab skill, the first hit will obviously be melee, then spell. With the protection spell that comes with the Thought Magic skill, that was enough to take care of the Trolls (at least so far unless I run into a grandaddy Troll).
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#129030 - 08/20/03 09:23 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Nickie, I'm pretty sure I did all the quests I could except for the ones for opposing factions, of course. I don't feel like my character is under-experienced, it's just that where I'm at in the game is just fight after fight after fight and the quests are just not there anymore, nor is there any character interaction or roleplaying after the first parts of the game.

Rick, I would imagine it takes a lot of time, effort, and resources to create RPG's on the level of BG, and with companies in the financial state they're in, they find it more lucrative to create Diablo-esque games.
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#129031 - 08/21/03 03:38 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Darn it, Schwab, I was hoping you would say you hadn't. Hope the game gets better for you.
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#129032 - 08/21/03 06:19 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Well, to be fair, I just hit the port town of Montaillou tonight and there is some more questing and interesting roleplaying decisions, and that was pretty fun. I finished all that and am back on the non-stop combat track, I presume to the end of the game.
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#129033 - 08/21/03 07:36 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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I restarted the game for the third time taking a Feralkin character using the aggressive spirit
and 2 handed melee. Combat is decidely easier
and I added studious thinker and skilled to my
skills when I created him. I call him The Bull laugh
Here I go again!
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#129034 - 08/21/03 12:14 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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I just received my copy of Lionheart along with the Bonus Level and Cards. Won't be starting it for another week, gotta finish TRII and its expansion.

I did take a look ... kinda nice. Will be watching for your experiences and choices ... might give me a push in the right direction. I always favor a fighter, but maybe not this time ... we'll see.

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#129035 - 08/21/03 05:34 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Hi Soozie! If you like to hear sarcastic wit, you may want to pick the demonic spirit to aid your character. The other two are just as helpful, but apparently not funny.
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#129036 - 08/22/03 07:03 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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I haven't heard much at all from my bestial spirit, but the games going much better with The Bull now. He can clear a room out! I also took
Smite Mastery.
Hagatha, many thanks for the tip on the search
skill for money as that's been a big help, too.
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#129037 - 08/22/03 06:45 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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And with that search skill, as you allocate points to it, you keep on finding more and more stuff, even in areas you've been in before.

I seem to have annoyed one of the guards in the Gate area - every time I talk to him he attacks. Hmmm...wonder why? It may be because I inadvertently released that Demon thingy in the Inquisition cellars. I think I'm going to go back there and take care of the Grand Inqusitor as that faction is just plain evil - this would be in character as I have joined the Wielders for moral reasons. My character may be a thieving, unfaithful (Will and Juanita) sneak, but she's a morally upstanding thieving sneak.
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#129038 - 08/22/03 06:55 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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My fighter is at level 24 now in a huge crypt outside of Montaillou. He longs for the halcyon days in Barcelona when he could just walk around looking for treasure on the ground...
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#129039 - 08/23/03 12:34 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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I wonder if my thief will make it that far? Mind you, she is hardly truly thiefy with 80 in one-handed so far, and more points going in there all the time. I'm just doing the outside of Barcelona quests and still not finding it too hard - doing a bit more sneaking than before.
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#129040 - 08/23/03 08:08 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Help! I stole the chalice and got caught (Inquisition area chest) and now all the guards
are attacking me and my mana is drained totally
away in areas here. Is there a way to stop mana
drain? I have gone so far and done so much I don't want to go back to a previous save.
Also, what's the best plan for killing the Lava
Troll Master? He's eating my lunch, too. mad <img border="0" alt="cry" title="" src="graemlins/cry.gif" /> eek
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#129041 - 08/23/03 10:24 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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I'm not sure what the Chalice is for - I have it too, - must be a quest for somebody else. Are the guards upstairs attacking you as well? Once I freed Faust and the other prisoner the guards on the lower levels of the Inquisition were hostile but the ones upstairs were oblivious. So I just did away with the guards I had to kill, and I think I would still have been able to join the Inquisition had I wanted to.

I managed to kill the Lava Troll Master with a combination of Ice Magic (Ice Bolt) and one-handed sword. I ran into him unexpectedly and was quite happy to have 6-7 health points left at the end of the fight.
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