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#129012 - 08/19/03 12:41 AM Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Well, what started out as an interesting and varied game has degenerated into a Diablo clone.

I can't tell how far I am in the game but it is now non-stop combat. I have been made a Knight Templar and travelled to Montserrat, but the whole way is littered with poison spewing demons, so many that I have to go slow and lure them away in manageable numbers, all the while losing hitpoints due to being constantly poisoned, which makes my fighter feel like a scaredy-cat. frown

Actually it's been non-stop combat since I first left Barcelona, I can't even imagine how a magic caster or archer would handle the way the enemies pounce on you at the speed of light. Hopefully there won't be too much more of this, or the game will end soon, but I'm a little disappointed all the same.
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#129013 - 08/19/03 12:52 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Oh, and here's the first review from Gamespot:

Lionheart review

Their score: 6.5/10
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#129014 - 08/19/03 03:46 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Sorry to hear that it is disappointing, Schwab, especially since I enjoyed my brief look at Barcelona. I wonder if this occurs no matter what faction you join.
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#129015 - 08/19/03 03:54 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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thats a shame that the game turns into what sounds like good old hack n slash. i wonder if it will be like that for the rest of the game or will it ease up after a while.
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#129016 - 08/20/03 01:32 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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I'm still in Barcelona, but I'm not having a huge amount of trouble combat wise, with my thiefy/mage type. I just batted down all of the Huge Skellies without having to use too many healing potions.

My only question is, at what level do I start getting more spells? I have the basic four Thought Magic spells, but I wouldn't mind having a couple of area spells.

Anyway so far I'm enjoying the game. I've read a few posts on the Black Isle Board that make me think a lot of people were expecting this to be another Baldur's Gate. Well, it ain't. But it is fun.
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#129017 - 08/20/03 02:22 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Where and what is Black Isle-I know I know, shouldn't ask; but when in the dark..
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#129018 - 08/20/03 03:57 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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ingie, of course you should ask.

black isle is the RPG division of interplay. interplay is kind of like the rpg version of dreamcatcher( the adventure company). interplay over the past few years has put out more rpg's than any other company.
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#129019 - 08/20/03 04:16 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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However, Lionheart was designed by Reflexive under the aegis of Black Isle, so that would explain why the game becomes wall to wall combat, I guess since they've never made an RPG before.


Hagatha, can't help you with the magic since my fighter only uses one kind of healing spell. I have gotten to the point where another spell in that same realm shows up at levelling up time, but it's grayed out and I can't put points in it.
The manual does nothing to explain this, either.

If you're still in and around Barcelona you haven't started the main quest yet, and that is when the game suddenly shifts to non-stop combat.
I wasn't really expecting Baldur's Gate, but the game is not nearly as complex as they said it would be.
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#129020 - 08/20/03 06:41 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Thanks Zanthia wave :kiss:
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#129021 - 08/20/03 06:51 AM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Hagatha, I'm playing my usual battlemage/thief
character and I think Schwab is right you need
to be more of a tank. Combat is pretty hard here.
I'm in with the lava troll section now and I'm dying left and right. I even took fire evasion
as a perk to help, but I'm not a great fighter
so there's the rub.
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#129022 - 08/20/03 01:01 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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This news does not a happy camper make. I included Lionheart and Timeline to my Runaway order so that I could get 2 day shipping for the same price thinking that Lionheart would be a good RPG to alternate with. Now these comments are bringing me down.

Hmmmmm by the time I get to it maybe a cheat??????????? After all I am somewhat combat challenged.

The good news is that I did make it through Diablo without a cheat so maybe........
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#129023 - 08/20/03 01:41 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Schwab, did you do a lot of the side quests available in Barcelona before you left?
Oldman, don't be discouraged yet. Although the reviewer gave it a low score, the people playing it gave it a 7.5. I'm not far enough into the game to know how difficult it will be for my character, but there are so many choices to make, both with character creation and in regard to which path you take, that I wouldn't be surprised if there are differing opinions on the game. But then again, maybe not lol
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#129024 - 08/20/03 02:46 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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it does sound like a combat oriented character is the way to go in lionheart.
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#129025 - 08/20/03 03:31 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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Mine came; happydance I'm loaded and now drawn
take a peek at Lionheart or finish my Main Quest?
Decisions, decisons <img border="0" alt="woozy" title="" src="graemlins/woozy.gif" />
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#129026 - 08/20/03 04:25 PM Re: Lionheart Update (aargh)
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I could tell from the demo that the combat in Lionheart was Diablo-esque. What a disappointment.
Why doesn't anyone make any RPG's like Baldur's Gate anymore? It was so popular one would think they made a lot of money on those games and would want to continue. I don't understand it.
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