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#130462 - 01/04/06 05:52 PM Gothic II Gold
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Hi all,

Just got this thing in a trade and am a little confused. The manuals leave a lot to be desired in explaining what is what. think

There are 4 disks. The first three install Gothic II then it tells you to hit finish and Gothic II is installed. When I insert disk 4 it then installs Night of the Raven which I assume replaces some of the original Gothic II files and the game now becomes Gothic II with addon.

If I only install Gothic II without Disk 4 then I play off of Disk 1. If I install with Disk 4 then Disk 1 doesn't work and I am playing off Disk 4.

I installed all 4 disks, played a while, had a crash and then the game wouldn't start. When I'd click on the startup icon I'd see the hourglass, then the spinning disk icon and then...........nothing. I have now uninstalled the whole thing, reinstalled Gothic II (1st three disks) and have been playing for a while. I am now hesitant to install Disk 4 again in case I run into the same problem.

(sigh) rolleyes guess I'll pull a Scarlet Ohara and worry about it tomorrow.

Will probably put disk 4 in again and hope it works with a new install. slapforehead
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#130463 - 01/04/06 09:09 PM Re: Gothic II Gold
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wave Hi John

I'm playing this game right now and I was just as confused as you. The first 3 disks installs Gothic II, but when you install the fourth disk (NOTR) Then try to play disk one Gothic II isn't even installed mad Play disk 4 then it plays Gothic II and NOTR. This is what I did. I just installed disk 4 and forget about the first three. The game runs perfect. I think that the 1-3 disks are for people who just want to play Gothic II.The fourth disk is for us who want to play Gothic II and the addon. The manual is NO HELP. The fourth disk isn't even labeled NOTR, which really threw me off.

I hope this helps. I'm just about to enter the addon world happydance Oh, one other thing that I don't understand is why 3 disk for one game and only one for two games.

Linda

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#130464 - 01/04/06 09:11 PM Re: Gothic II Gold
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John, I forgot to say that you play disk 4 for the game.

Linda wave

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#130465 - 01/05/06 12:12 AM Re: Gothic II Gold
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Thanks for the clarification Linda. If I feel real ambitious I'll uninstall it again and start from sctratch with disk 4 and see what happens. Nice of Jo Wood to explain all this to us.........NOT!
rolleyes mad slapforehead
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#130466 - 01/05/06 04:49 AM Re: Gothic II Gold
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You cant install NOTR (disc 4) without installing the first 3 first.


But you can use a fix for NOTR to play it without the cd being inside the drive.

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#130467 - 01/05/06 08:05 AM Re: Gothic II Gold
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John, wave and lindy wave

I went to gamespot to see if I could find any mention of a problem, instead I got lots of glowing reports about this version of the game.
I would think(which is dangerous I know) that you can add disc 4 at any time you want..without uninstall and reinstall..but not sure about that.
You may want to check some of reports out..I only read 2 of them.

Ingie laugh
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#130468 - 01/05/06 11:23 AM Re: Gothic II Gold
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Quote:
Originally posted by DABhand:
You cant install NOTR (disc 4) without installing the first 3 first.


But you can use a fix for NOTR to play it without the cd being inside the drive.
And that fix is...................? think

I got it working but had to install all four disks. When I tried just disk 4 I got an error message that a dll file was missing.

Trying to find help on the Jo Wood site is difficult to say the least. I could find no mention of NOTR. (maybe I wasn't looking in the right places.)
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#130469 - 01/05/06 12:39 PM Re: Gothic II Gold
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I'm playing the game by just installing the fourth disk. I had installed all four disk's, but then uninstalled everything and just install the fourth. It worked. I'm in the addon world now. I don't know maybe everything didn't uninstalled for me. I'm playing and having fun.

Linda

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#130470 - 01/05/06 02:52 PM Re: Gothic II Gold
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Quote:
Originally posted by popcorneater:
John, wave and lindy wave

I went to gamespot to see if I could find any mention of a problem, instead I got lots of glowing reports about this version of the game.
I would think(which is dangerous I know) that you can add disc 4 at any time you want..without uninstall and reinstall..but not sure about that.
You may want to check some of reports out..I only read 2 of them.

Ingie laugh
Gothic 2 Gold is a bundle of the normal Gothic 2 Atari sold the last 2-3 years and the add-on.
The first 3 discs install Gothic 2. You can play it with or without installing Night of the Raven, which is on the 4th CD.
Savegames are not compatible between both versions.
Experienced Gothic players should just install everything and enjoy a hard but rewarding game. Newbies should start with Gothic 2 and install the add-on when they´ve finished it once. Gothic 2 has enough replay value.

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#130471 - 01/05/06 02:55 PM Re: Gothic II Gold
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Quote:
Originally posted by lindy236:
I'm playing the game by just installing the fourth disk. I had installed all four disk's, but then uninstalled everything and just install the fourth. It worked. I'm in the addon world now. I don't know maybe everything didn't uninstalled for me. I'm playing and having fun.

Linda
I bet the uninstall didn´t work. The add-on integrates itself into Gothic 2. It can´t run without the main game.

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#130472 - 01/06/06 06:25 AM Re: Gothic II Gold
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Hi all,

Well I got this game for Christmas and am enjoying it so far. I wondered about the 4th disk and what to do with it but after just reading this thread I will wait until I finish the game to install and see the rest.

I have not gotten that far in it yet but working on it to be an apprentice.

I have been playing this back and forth with Might and Magic 9 so will take a while to get through it.

As I said....so far...so good.
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#130473 - 01/06/06 08:15 AM Re: Gothic II Gold
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Yep the reviews I read were very glowing.


Have a grand time!!

Ingie laugh
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#130474 - 01/06/06 02:38 PM Re: Gothic II Gold
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I, too, was confused by the lack of anything regarding disk 4 in the supplied documentation.

I had previously started Gothic II last year and eventually got side-tracked at a decision point and when I was about to get back to it, I heard about this expansion and that it was going to be available in a month or two.* And, that I'd have to start the game again to play the expansion.

So, after getting Gothic II Gold for Christmas and uninstalling my old Gothic II, I installed the new one starting with disk 1. "Hmmm, it didn't need disk 4" I said to myself.

I then put in disk 4 and see that it wants to install the Night of the Raven part. "Oh! I get it" I tell myself and install that disk. But now my just-installed Gothic II is gone and only the NotR part is left. That didn't seem right. So, I uninstall NotR and reinstall the first three disks, and now I've got Gothic II back.

I figure that the NotR part is to be installed *after* finishing the original Gothic II. Something like what VHLM just wrote (I believe)...

Quote:
Originally posted by VHLMagic:
Hi all,

Well I got this game for Christmas and am enjoying it so far. I wondered about the 4th disk and what to do with it but after just reading this thread I will wait until I finish the game to install and see the rest.

I have not gotten that far in it yet but working on it to be an apprentice.

I have been playing this back and forth with Might and Magic 9 so will take a while to get through it.

As I said....so far...so good.
I'd worked through to a ways into chapter 2 (again) with my newly installed Gothic II by the time I noticed this thread. And, as expected, I didn't see anything that differed from what I recalled from my first time playing the game.

But, this thread made it clear to me that the NotR part is *supposed* to be installed over the original Gothic II, modifying those things it wants, and you then are supposed to play from the start.

So, I installed disk 4, and started up NotR. It saw my old saved Gothic II games. On a whim, I tried loading one of them. The restore stalled about half way, and I needed to use CTRL+ALT+DEL to kill the non-responsive program.

Thus, I now tossed all my old saved games and started NotR again.

It is a new version of the original Gothic II story line. With the start of the game fairly fresh in mind, I've been able to compare the two and, in general, I've liked what they've done so far in altering the story line and the game world.

I also believe that if you listen closely enough you can often tell the newly inserted dialog from the original as the voices sound a little different.

But, my point here, VHLM, is that unless you're happy with playing all the way through to the end of the original Gothic II and then doing it all again with NotR, you're better off tossing your saved games, installing disk 4 now, and starting over as soon as possible, as otherwise, the time you spend with just the 3 disk install is, well maybe not entirely "wasted", but close to that.

* The "month or two" naturally became more like 6.
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#130475 - 01/06/06 07:01 PM Re: Gothic II Gold
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Quote:
Originally posted by croaker:

But, my point here, VHLM, is that unless you're happy with playing all the way through to the end of the original Gothic II and then doing it all again with NotR, you're better off tossing your saved games, installing disk 4 now, and starting over as soon as possible, as otherwise, the time you spend with just the 3 disk install is, well maybe not entirely "wasted", but close to that.
Don

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#130476 - 01/07/06 07:45 AM Re: Gothic II Gold
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Hi all,

Well I am confused as to leaving it alone and continue the 1st 3 disks or uninstall and just use the 4th disk. I am guessing that I should just leave it alone and just install the 4th disk when I am done with the first 3.

Is this what you are telling me FeathersMcGraw?

If so....then sounds like a plan.
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