You have to join, remember you're working as a "spy" of sorts and this is part of the main quest, it's the only way to obtain an item.
this is why you need pickpocket skill..

Ingie

Ok, thanks guys! Unfortunately I didn't choose the pickpocket skill yet, but I was saving one for an emergency and I'll use it now.

Thanks!

You may be able to do it with one skill..the guy is drunk and you're told to take his keys or something..

Ingie

If you steal the keys from the Commander Town Watch for Finnegan and give them to him you can buy them back from him and they're magical so you'll never need any other lockpicks. It cost me 34 pieces of gold. I have 2 lev of lockpick and couldn't get very far in the basement.
I am trrying to get the Holy Grail now and I keep getting killed. I can't seem to be able to run out fast enough. I guess I have to stay and fight. Any suggestions?
Kim

Do you have a black potion to take, so you can become invisible? It's a lot easier to run out that way!

Thanks Nickie I'll try it

Alright, I got the keys. Thanks!

Does anybody remember where the jeweler Dwarf is? I need to get the brooch from him.

He's a long way from where you are...he's in the Dwarf Mountain, you'll find him a little later in the game.

Ingie

Thanks Ingie!

Well, this is one BIG game, isn't it?

Thanks Nickie, got the grail by using the potion. Those shadow potions are great. I Used them to get away from Elona's pet and the orcs in the treasure roomm of the castle. Even tho I'm a lev 36 for some reason I couldn't kill either of them. So I ran (cowardly but I live to fight another day )
I think I'm on my to the council quests now. Hopefully, not too hard.

That's great! And running away is a tried and true battle tactic - something magical about "living to fight another day". And no, the council quests aren't too hard at all, and then you're rewarded with a magnificent cut scene (where I think the game should have ended actually, but that's another story )

How appalling. Yesterday, for the first time in the game, I noticed that when trading, there are these little balances beside your picture and the shopkeeper. All this time, I've been doing the final balancing of the trade the hard way! One little button and gold to match the other side is just there.

Luckily I found that out early on but quite by accident. It helps a lot. But I have a question. I'm in the warrior's guild and I'm supposed to go in the catacombs to find the dragon armor. I went down the stairway but i can't go any but around in a little square. Are these the right catacombs?

for Pib..

To Kim, huh?? I don't know..I played a warrior once and I honestly cannot get a memory cell to cough up this memory..
Hope someone comes along that can..sorry Kim

Ingie