#137186 - 03/09/03 07:22 PM
Re: Jack the Ripper Exception Error
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I have ths game. Haven't played it yet but it sounds like maybe you need to increase memory for a workaround...just a thought Ifnerno
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#137187 - 03/09/03 07:36 PM
Re: Jack the Ripper Exception Error
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Hi Mike Just loaded it on both my W98 and W95 machines - no joy for me either - drops me back to desktop with both systems. And I can't even get the ding dang sound to work on my W95 with the ISA SB16 card (have no idea why - system works lovely with Flight of the Amazon Queen). Didn't get any of the errors you got - and it also rebooted my W95 when I tried in DOS - hmmmmmmmmm Looks like the mystery is afoot Watson 
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#137188 - 03/09/03 08:20 PM
Re: Jack the Ripper Exception Error
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Registered: 11/17/01
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I wondered the same thing, Inferno, and I found a memory.txt in the install folder that says to erase the NOEMS in the EMM386 line if you have problems, which I did. This tells me this game wants Expanded memory and not Extended memory. I had 624K free in conventional with the NOEMS and the game ran fine except for the wierd bug. I erased the NOEMS in my EMM386 line and got, I forget, but around 592K free conventional memory. The game runs fine either way actually, and I can play and play until I hit that one button then blooey, reboot city...
Syd, the game runs the sound from the cd-rom like an audio cd. I had one set up on one of my systems where it wouldn't play sound either. I think it was on my Win 95 box with an f8 boot to DOS. (I have an ISA SB16 card with installed drivers.) I suspect there is a driver or setting I don't have set right in that mode for reading sound off the cd-rom. I do get sound in the "restart in Dos mode" on Win95 so it's using a Windows driver to read the cd-rom. In Win98se f8 boot I get sound but I have an emulation program on that system that always comes through. It's interesting, though, that you get similar problems at the same place. But you get thrown to desktop? I either freeze or reboot.
What is really odd is I can't find this documented anywhere. You'd think there would be a patch to address what appears to be a very nasty programming bug. I know people have played this game.
Mike
Oh yeah, I also tried to install it in DOS 6.22 but something won't let me install the files. I get an "invalid /y switch" which is a DOS 6.22 command to force copying over existing files or something like that. I can do a regular copy command and copy all the files into a folder in DOS 6.22 and can even run the opening animaation with sound!!! but then it goes to black with only a mouse cursor. I have 616K free memory in this setup. Will keep at it and see if I can find a solve.
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#137189 - 03/09/03 08:34 PM
Re: Jack the Ripper Exception Error
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Looks like I'm going to have to play around some more with the game and see if I can get it to work with sound. I had the game as a floater a while ago and swear I got the sound working, then but I got bogged down with other things so just sent it to the next person on the list without playing it. I later found the game in some bargin bin clearance sale somewhere and bought it.
The only time it rebooted was when I restarted in DOS mode - otherwise I just got dropped back to desktop. And I did the same thing you did with the NOEMS. Edited it out but it made no difference other than dropping the memory.
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#137191 - 03/10/03 08:50 AM
Re: Jack the Ripper Exception Error
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Ah that explains why I could hear music when I loaded it in before - my other computer has an AWE sound card and I had the connection wire from the card to the rom drive connected - whew - for a minute there I thought I was losing it. The sound card I have now isn't connected - hence no music. I'll try plugging the earphones into the front jack and check it out - plus changing the memory line.
Thanks
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#137195 - 03/10/03 03:46 PM
Re: Jack the Ripper Exception Error
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Wow, I never thought that I would see the day when a game would cause more problems than Synnergist!!! I'm not saying Jack the Ripper is there quite yet, but it sounds like a contender. I think in order to get the sound running in pure DOS mode, you need to download SB16 drivers that are just for this type of thing. They'll let you listend to music from your cd-rom in DOS. These came with the normal SB16 drivers download. I remember the readme that came with the DOS drivers had instructions for how to do this, but I didn't bother because I thought it wouldn't be needed. I guess I better think again! Maybe specifying an exact memory range when you run emm386.exe would do the trick? I remember Synnergist making me do this.
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#137199 - 03/10/03 08:43 PM
Re: Jack the Ripper Exception Error
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Originally posted by lakerz:
I think in order to get the sound running in pure DOS mode, you need to download SB16 drivers that are just for this type of thing. They'll let you listend to music from your cd-rom in DOS. These came with the normal SB16 drivers download. I remember the readme that came with the DOS drivers had instructions for how to do this, but I didn't bother because I thought it wouldn't be needed. Are you sure you aren't confusing the CD player for DOS with the drivers? There's a separate CD player for playing music CD's which is similar in function to the Windows CD Player in Start\Programs\Accessories\Entertainment. Originally posted by Scout:
For some reason on my WIN98 system I can launch the game from Windows by clicking on Jack.bat or straight from DOS. Doesn't work on the Optiplex w/WIN 95 though. I have to launch from DOS.
That's interesting. I wonder if it's a Win 95 vs 98 thing or an Optiplex thing. I didn't try Jack the Ripper on any other computer besides the Optiplex.
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