#171548 - 07/07/07 02:33 AM
2007 The Dark Side List
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Hi all, As promised,here is the thread for this years top 13 Dark Side recommendations. The object for any boomers in the dark is to recommend to other boomers non-adventure games that you believe worthy of playing in this day and age. Plenty of people venture over here and don't know what to play, me included. The games may be your all time favourites, but they need not be. I loved Quake at the time and I still think of it highly but I wouldn't recommend it today. We then compile a final list as a resource for other players. The rules are fairly simple. 1. You can recommend a maximum of 13 games, but you can recommend less. 2. You can't list a series, unless you use single votes for each game. 3. Expansion packs will be considered seperate games, on the basis that the original might be ordinary but an expansion pack superb. 4. Any game that is not pure adventure can be listed, irrespective of genre. 5. You don't have to indicate the type or genre, and you are not limited to any specific number of games in any genre. Go ahead and list 13 rpg's if you choose. 6. It is essentially a pc list, but given that many players have consoles as well, if you want to list games for the console go right ahead. Please use full titles where possible as I am not as familiar with titles and series over here as I am with the light side games. Add ons and expansions might confuse me but I will shout if clarification is needed. We will keep the list open for about 2 weeks and with help from a mucky the list will also be categorised for genre, at least down to those with multiple recommendations. I will post later - Oblivion is still a work in progress! Lets go 
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#171552 - 07/07/07 02:43 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007
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Thanks again for volunteering your time - it's a wonderful list to have! HERE is a link to last year's choices (go to the thread's last page for the winners).
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#171768 - 07/07/07 01:24 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007
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Anachronox Beyond Divinity Beyond Good and Evil Divine Divinity Dragonriders of Pern Ghost Master Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition (aka Kult) Indigo Prophecy (aka Fahrenheit) Might and Magic VI Quest for Glory 4 Sacred Plus Zanzarah
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#171770 - 07/07/07 01:27 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007
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Mine is easy- I have only played 2 Dark side games so far-- and loved them both
Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit
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#171954 - 07/07/07 07:45 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007
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Let's see... PainKiller The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape From Butcher Bay Mafia Oblivion Tomb Raider: Legend Half-Life 2 Silent Hill 2 Max Payne 2 Test Drive Unlimited Beyond Good & Evil Cold Fear Medal of Honor Doom 3 Thanks again flotsam for doing this for us!  Rusty 
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#171958 - 07/07/07 07:49 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Well I'm not usually one of the first to do anything but I have a list of sorts so will submit it. Probably pretty much the same as last year with maybe one or two exceptions. Blood Rayne KOTOR KOTOR 2 Morrowind  Oblivion Dungeon Lords Gothic Divine Divinity Sacred Gold Tomb Raider 2 No One Lives Forever Betrayal In Antara (For those of you who are unfamiliar with this one it would be worth checking into. Many hours of enjoyment with turn based combat)Diablo Hellfire (My first action adventure game took me a while to learn) 
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#171998 - 07/07/07 11:00 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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My list, no particular order.
Morrowind Condemned:Crimial Orgins Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines Fable TLC Arcanum Unreal 2:The Awakening BloodRayne The Suffering Demon Stone Necromania Traps of Darkness F.E.A.R. Icewind Dale Neverwinter Nights
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#172021 - 07/08/07 02:05 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Hi  A "Darkside Wimp" I nevertheless have a list  .... Baldur’s Gate Betrayal in Antara Diablo Divine Divinity DragonRiders - Chronicles of Pern Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven Neverwinter Nights Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark Planescape Torment Quest for Glory 4 : Shadows of Darkness Quest for Glory V : Dragon Fire Return to Krondor Cheers. Mad
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#172058 - 07/08/07 05:27 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Ok, then  Here's my list. 1. Planescape Torment 2. Fallout 1 3. Baldur's Gate 1 4. Icewind Dale 1 5. Knights of the old Republic 1 (kotor 1) 6. Heretic Kingdoms: Inquistition(aka Kult) 7. Might and Magic 6 8. Baldur's Gate 2 9. Gothic 1 10.Neverwinter Nights 1 11. Morrowind 12. Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit (same game, though) /Karsten 9. Newerwinter Nights 1 10
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#172267 - 07/08/07 02:30 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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American McGees Alice Clive Barkers Undying Drakan Order of the Flame Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine Tomb Raider Legend Unreal Tournament 2003 Serious Sam Serious Sam The Second Encounter Rollercoaster Tycoon 3 The Sims 2 Max Payne Max Payne II Enclave
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#172278 - 07/08/07 02:51 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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flotsam, hi, For some reason, this seems easier than the Light Side list, even though you have less choices to proffer. Here goes: 1. Fallout 2. Fallout 2 3. Planescape: Torment 4. Realms of the Haunting 5. Deus Ex 6. Half-life 7. Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 8. Morrowind 9. Arcanum: Of Steamworks and Magick Obscura 10. Divine Divinity 11. Diablo II 12. Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn 13. Oblivion Cheers, MetzO'Magic P.S. Mine was the 13th reply. Lucky me
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#172349 - 07/08/07 04:49 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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I've never voted on any games before so here goes. I have only ten that seemed good enough to play more then once. All are PC RPG's in the order give (best to least).
1. Divine Divinity 2. Morrowind 3. Vampire The Masquerade: Bloodlines 4. Knights Of The Old Republic 5. Knights Of The Old Republic 2 6. The Bards Tale 7. Neverwinter Nights 8. Neverwinter Nights 2 9. Silent Hill 3 10. Heretic Kingdoms: Inquistition
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#172356 - 07/08/07 05:03 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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P.S. Mine was the 13th reply. Lucky me Hi Steve, I wish I'd thought of that. Was it on purpose or coincidental?
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#172359 - 07/08/07 05:22 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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1. Zanzarah 2. Might and Magic 6 3. Anvil of Dawn 4. Jurassic Park Operation Genesis 5. Darklands 6. Ultima Underworld 7. Baldur's Gate 2 8. Divine Divinity 9. Realms of the Haunting 10. Quest for Glory 4 11. Veil of Darkness 12. Fate 13. Ghost Master Whew! Once again, there were many more competing for my consideration. John, I haven't played Betrayal in Antara yet (I have it right here), but it would appear that getting it to behave in Windows XP is problematic. Have you run the game with Windows XP? 
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#172407 - 07/08/07 06:52 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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John, I haven't played Betrayal in Antara yet (I have it right here), but it would appear that getting it to behave in Windows XP is problematic. Have you run the game with Windows XP?  I have an older PC with win 98 loaded to play older games so I haven't tried Antara on XP. (In fact I haven't played it in years). However, the expert on XP compatibility (metzomagic) just posted above so maybe he'll see this post and give us a hint.
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#172482 - 07/08/07 09:55 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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oldman, hi, (just coincidental that I was the 13th poster, BTW) Hmm. Betrayal in Antara. Don't have it myself, so hard to tell. Released in 1997, that means Compatibility Mode for Win 95 ought to do it in XP, else you're outta luck... The hardest games to get running in XP are the ones made between 1996 and 2000. They were all striving to get the most performance they could out of Win 95/98, broke a lot of the unwritten Win 32 API rules, and so... luck of the dice roll with these ones, really. Edit: just checked on www.ntcompatible.com. Looks like it will run in XP but that you need to have your screen resolution set to 640 x 480 and also use a PC slowdown progam like Turbo or else the game crashes often in combat. Regards, MetzO'Magic
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#172522 - 07/09/07 01:31 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Way to go everyone - and well done on number 13 metzo!
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#172540 - 07/09/07 04:16 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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I just love all the Tomb Raider series so here is my list. 1. Tomb Raider II Gold 2. Tomb Raider III Lost Artifact 3. Tomb Raider 4 Last Revelation 4. Tomb Raider 5 Chronicles 5. Tomb Raider 6 Angel of Darkness 6. Tomb Raider 7 Legend 7. Tomb Raider 8 Anniversary Edition (playing now)! 8. Indigo Prophecy
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#172556 - 07/09/07 05:26 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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1.Morrowind 2.Oblivion 3.American McGee's Alice 4.Clive Barkers Undying 5.Cold Fear 6.Alone in the Dark 4 7.Call of Duty 8.Aikens Artifact 9.BloodRayne 10.No one Lives Forever 2 11.Knights of the Old Republic 1
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#172940 - 07/09/07 05:47 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Hi all - that time of the year again already - of the games I've played, I recommend the following: 1. Morrowind 2. Gothic 2 3. GTA - San Andreas 4. Gothic 5. Baldur's Gate 2 6. Baldur's Gate 7. Divine Divinity 8. NWN - not so much for the official campaign but for the engine that powers user made modules Morrowind with mods is far and away the best game I've played/still play. There are also lots of games I have yet to play which appear regularly on other lists and would probably also be on mine
Edited by pantheon (07/09/07 10:14 PM)
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#173036 - 07/09/07 09:22 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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OK, in no particular order:
Neverwinter Nights I Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark Expansion Neverwinter Nights II Baldur's Gate II Knights of the Old Republic I Knights of the Old Republic II Star Wars: Republic Commando Oblivion Morrowind Morrowind: Bloodmoon Expansion Fable: The lost Chapters Dungeon Siege II
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#173558 - 07/10/07 08:58 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Here are Drac's (in no particular order). Being relatively new to the darkside, my list is short! I've played several others, the these are the ones good enough for a replay.
1. Zanzarah 2. Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines 3. Vampire the Masquerade Redemption 4. Diablo II 5. Fable TLC
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#174453 - 07/12/07 05:59 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Hi all, had the week off for a youth soccer tournament but its finished now so I can turn my attention to my counting duties. Will post an update later today.
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#174508 - 07/12/07 07:17 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Man I need to log on more - almost missed this and would you believe it I've finally played enough Darkside games to have to leave some out - who da thunk it???  In no order other than alphabetical of course - 1. Anachronox 2. Divine Divinity 3. Gothic 1 4. Gothic 2 5. Knights of the Old Republic I 6. Might and Magic VI 7. Might and Magic VII 8. Morrowind 9. Oblivion 10. Outcast 11. Quest for Glory 1 12. Quest for Glory 5 13. Sacred
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#174510 - 07/12/07 07:31 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Here is my contribution... Thanks flotsam! Divine Divinity Beyond Divinity Fable Sacred Plus Zanzarah Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition Diablo II The Elder Scrolls: Oblivion Drakan: Order of the Flame American McGees Alice The Bards Tale Clive Barkers Undying Ana
Edited by BrownEyedTigre (07/13/07 04:59 PM) Edit Reason: Took out Sacred (Duplicate)
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#174642 - 07/13/07 06:42 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Why, I think BaldBob forgot to mention Half-Life 2 (and Episode 1)!
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#174939 - 07/13/07 05:00 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Thanks Nickie...I took out Sacred and left Sacred Plus. I had them both last year and copied the same list and added some. I have nothing left to add in its place.  need to game some more. Ana
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#174984 - 07/13/07 06:34 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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I've been trying to clone myself or buy time for years. So far no luck.  The good thing is, I always have games waiting in the wings. Ana
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#174988 - 07/13/07 06:39 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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ok Friday the 13th struck and I am only now back on line. Counting will start and I will talk to you soon. We are about half way through in terms of time, and way to go Syd. Madge has certainly had a workout. And did BaldBob fail to mention Half Life 2??
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#175000 - 07/13/07 07:57 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Thank you flotsam - Madge is very proud too  By the way, has anyone mentioned Half Life 2 (and episode 1)??
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#175079 - 07/14/07 02:50 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Grand wizard of high mucky muck
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I guess someone needs to remind BaldBob about Half Life 2 (and episode 1). I'm not sure if its been mentioned yet.
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#175967 - 07/15/07 09:59 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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In no particular order:
1.Company of Heroes 2.Falcon 4:Allied Force 3.Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory 4.Splinter Cell: Double Agent 5.Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow 6.Ghost Recon:Advanced Warfighter 7.Football Manager 2007 8.Battlefield 2 9.Hidden and Dangerous 2 10.Commandos 2: Men Of Courage 11.Max Payne 2 12.Operation Flashpoint 13.Rainbow Six:Vegas
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#176456 - 07/16/07 09:45 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Better late than never! Morrowind leads the way narrowly from Divine Divinity. Games with 5 or more include Gothic 1 and 2, Baldurs Gate 2, KOTOR 1, Fable and Neverwinter Nights. About 110 games mentioned, including a whole heap I have never heard of. Suprises? Perhaps Outcast with only 2 votes so far. I am sure there are others. Kepp em coming 
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#176496 - 07/17/07 03:08 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Grand wizard of high mucky muck
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No one here played Titan Quest? I vote for Titan Quest Gold, which is a bundle of Titan Quest (patched) and the Expansion Pack "Immortal Throne".
This has been the main game that I have been playing this couple of months, so that says a lot. Sure, fun game. I loved my lich! Unfortunately, there are only 13 spots, so some good games just didn't quite make the list. Thanks for the update Flotsam! 
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#176974 - 07/18/07 12:01 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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It's hard to get it down to only 13. Alltho most of these were on last year's list too.
No particular order.
1) Outcast 2) Unreal 2: The Awakening 3) Prince of Persia: Warrior Within 4) The Chronicles of Riddick 5) Thief Gold 6) American McGees Alice 7) Max Payne 8) Nocturne 9) No One Lives Forever 10) Splinter Cell 11) Silent Hill 2 12) Drakan: Order of the Flame 13) Doom 3
Playing Zanzarah right now and actually liking it. It's probably the closest I'll ever get to playing a game with some RPG elements in it. I'm more of just a shooter fan.
Sassy
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#176990 - 07/18/07 03:26 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Time for my own RPG challenged offering:
Outcast Twinsuns Odyssey Realms of the Haunting Ico Max Payne American Magees Alice Deus Ex Half Life Call of Duty Divine Divinity Half Life 2 FEAR Indigo Prophecy
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#177476 - 07/18/07 11:23 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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My list never really seems to change, except for the order, which is meaningless.
RPG's I will never be able to part with.
Baldur's Gate Baldur's Gate2 Morrowind Gothic Gothic 2 Kotor KOTOR2 Deus Ex Thief Gold Thief 2 Splinter Cell (the very first one) NWN
I can't pick a thirteenth from all the other great games I have. Those 12 are my all time favourites.
Edited by hagatha (07/18/07 11:23 PM)
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#178427 - 07/20/07 11:06 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Hi, We seem to be drawing to a close so I will post final results Monday morning my time, which gives you about 36 hours if you still want to vote. I will categorise using last years list and my own humble knowledge and research. I will leave any I don't know and maybe a mucky can fill them in. I am seeking feedback on one thing. At this stage I intend to count Sacred and Sacred Plus as one game, and Sacred Gold as a seperate game, given it contains the expansion Underworld. However I could be convinced Sacred Plus is different enough to be a seperate game. I haven't played them, but research suggests that it had some quests added and a few more foes, plus all the patches. Not sure that patches add enough, but perhaps the extra bits make it different enough to be considered a game in its own right? Let me know what you think.
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#178474 - 07/21/07 03:25 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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That answers the question Nickie. Something I read said Plus added more quests, but I will count them as 1 game as originally intended.
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#178629 - 07/21/07 12:46 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Here's my two cents worth.  Half Life 2 Abe's Oddysee Abe's Exoddus Neverwinter Nights Fable TLC Psychonauts American McGee's Alice Candy 
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#178795 - 07/21/07 06:29 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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One game it is Nickie!! Numbers are down on last year so make that last 24 hours count.
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#179223 - 07/22/07 04:37 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Hi all, The results are in! This is the 4th list and the top two has remained constant. But this is the first time that the winning game has finished top in its own right. I guess I had better finally play it  What follows are two posts, one numerical and one alphabetical. I have identified the genre in the numerical list, using last year's chategorisations for consistency. All errors are mine. 
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#179224 - 07/22/07 04:38 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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13 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind (RPG) 12 Divine Divinity (RPG) 8 Neverwinter Nights (RPG) 8 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic (RPG) 7 American Magee’s Alice (Action) 7 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion (RPG) 7 Gothic (RPG) 6 Baldur’s Gate 2 (RPG) 6 Fable: The Lost Chapters (RPG) 6 Gothic 2 (RPG) 6 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven (RPG) 5 Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit (Action/Adventure) 5 Planescape Torment (RPG) 4 Anachronox (RPG) 4 Baldur’s Gate (RPG) 4 Clive Barker’s Undying (Action) 4 Deus Ex (Action/Stealth) 4 Half Life 2 (FPS/Action) 4 Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms (RPG) 4 Outcast (Action/Adventure) 4 Thief: The Dark Project/Thief Gold (Action/Stealth) 4 Tomb Raider 7: Legend (Action/Adventure) 4 Zanzarah (Action/Adventure/RPG) 3 Bloodrayne (Action) 3 Diablo 2 (RPG) 3 Drakan: Order of the Flame (Action/Adventure) 3 Fallout (RPG) 3 Max Payne (Action) 3 Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne (Action) 3 Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness (RPG) 3 Realms of the Haunting (Action/Adventure) 3 Sacred/Sacred Plus (RPG) 3 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 – Sith Lords (RPG) 3 Thief 2: The Metal Age (Action/Stealth) 3 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines (RPG)
2 Arcanum, Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn, The Bards Tale, Betrayal at Antara, Beyond Divinity, Beyond Good and Evil, Call of Duty, Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butchers Bay, Cold Fear, Doom 3, Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern, F.E.A.R., Ghost Master, Half Life, Icewind Dale, Ico, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine, Mafia, Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour, Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide, Neverwinter Nights 2, No One Lives Forever, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, Splinter Cell, Tomb Raider 3: The Lost Artifact, Unreal 2: The Awakening,
1 Abe’s Odyssey, Abe’s Exodus, Aikens Artifact, Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare, Anvil of Dawn, Baldurs Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast, Baldurs Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal, 1 Battlefield 2, Commandos 2: Men of Courage, Company of Heroes, Condemned, Darklands, Diablo, Diablo: Hellfire, Dungeon Lords, Dungeon Seige 2, Elder Scrolls 3: Blood Moon, Enclave, Falcon 4: Allied Force, Fallout 2, Fate, Football Manager 2007, Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone, Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter, Gothic 3, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Half Life 2: Episode 1, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Hidden and Dangerous 2, Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis, King Kong, Medal of Honour, Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer, Necromania: Traps of Darkness, Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark, No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.S Way, Nocturne, Operation Flashpoint, Painkiller, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Psychonauts, Quest for Glory 1: So You Want to Be a Hero, Quest for Glory 5: Dragon Fire, Rainbow Six: Vegas, Return to Krondor, Roller Coaster Tycoon 3, Serious Sam: The First Encounter, Serious Sam: The Second Encounter, Sacred Gold, Shadow of the Colossus, Silent Hill 3, Sims 2, Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow, Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory, Splinter Cell: Double Agent, Star Wars: Republic Commando, The Suffering, System Shock 2, Test Drive Unlimited, Tomb Raider 2 Gold, Tomb Raider 4: The Last Revelation, Tomb Raider 5: Chronicles, Tomb Raider 6: Angel of Darkness, Tomb Raider Anniversary Edition, Twinsuns Odyssey, Unreal Tournament, Ultima Underworld, Vampire Masquerade: Redemption, Veil of Darkness
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#179225 - 07/22/07 04:38 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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1 Abe’s Odyssey 1 Abe’s Exodus 1 Aikens Artifact 7 American Magee’s Alice 1 Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare 4 Anachronox 1 Anvil of Dawn 2 Arcanum 4 Baldur’s Gate 1 Baldurs Gate: Tales of the Sword Coast 6 Baldur’s Gate 2 1 Baldurs Gate 2: Throne of Bhaal 2 Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn 2 Bards Tale, The 1 Battlefield 2 2 Betrayal at Antara 2 Beyond Divinity 2 Beyond Good and Evil 3 Bloodrayne 2 Call of Duty 2 Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butchers Bay 4 Clive Barker’s Undying 2 Cold Fear 1 Commandos 2: Men of Courage 1 Company of Heroes 1 Condemned 1 Darklands 4 Deus Ex 1 Diablo 1 Diablo: Hellfire 3 Diablo 2 12 Divine Divinity 2 Doom 3 2 Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern 3 Drakan: Order of the Flame 1 Dungeon Lords 1 Dungeon Seige 2 1 Elder Scrolls 3: Blood Moon 13 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind 7 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion 1 Enclave 6 Fable: The Lost Chapters 1 Falcon 4: Allied Force 3 Fallout 1 Fallout 2 1 Fate 2 F.E.A.R. 1 Football Manager 2007 1 Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone 2 Ghost Master 1 Ghost Recon: Advanced Warfighter 7 Gothic 6 Gothic 2 1 Gothic 3 1 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas 2 Half Life 4 Half Life 2 1 Half Life 2: Episode 1 1 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban 4 Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms 1 Hidden and Dangerous 2 2 Icewind Dale 2 Ico 2 Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine 5 Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit 1 Jurassic Park: Operation Genesis 1 King Kong 2 Mafia 3 Max Payne 3 Max Payne 2: The Fall of Max Payne 1 Medal of Honour 6 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven 2 Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour 1 Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer 1 Necromania: Traps of Darkness 8 Neverwinter Nights 2 Neverwinter Nights: Shadows of Undrentide 1 Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark 2 Neverwinter Nights 2 2 No One Lives Forever 1 No One Lives Forever 2: A Spy in H.A.R.M.S Way 1 Nocturne 1 Operation Flashpoint 4 Outcast 1 Painkiller 5 Planescape Torment 1 Prince of Persia: Warrior Within 1 Psychonauts 1 Quest for Glory 1: So You Want to Be a Hero 3 Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness 1 Quest for Glory 5: Dragon Fire 1 Rainbow Six: Vegas 3 Realms of the Haunting 1 Return to Krondor 1 Roller Coaster Tycoon 3 1 Serious Sam: The First Encounter 1 Serious Sam: The Second Encounter 3 Sacred/Sacred Plus 1 Sacred Gold 1 Shadow of the Colossus 2 Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams 1 Silent Hill 3 1 Sims 2 2 Splinter Cell 1 Splinter Cell: Pandora Tomorrow 1 Splinter Cell: Chaos Theory 1 Splinter Cell: Double Agent 8 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 3 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2 – Sith Lords 1 Star Wars: Republic Commando 1 Suffering, The 1 System Shock 2 1 Test Drive Unlimited 4 Thief: The Dark Project/Thief Gold 3 Thief 2: The Metal Age 1 Tomb Raider 2 Gold 2 Tomb Raider 3: The Lost Artifact 1 Tomb Raider 4: The Last Revelation 1 Tomb Raider 5: Chronicles 1 Tomb Raider 6: Angel of Darkness 4 Tomb Raider 7: Legend 1 Tomb Raider Anniversary Edition 1 Twinsuns Odyssey 2 Unreal 2: The Awakening 1 Unreal Tournament 1 Ultima Underworld 1 Vampire Masquerade: Redemption 3 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines 1 Veil of Darkness 4 Zanzarah
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#179329 - 07/22/07 09:42 PM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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Thanks flotsam. Great job as usual. Curious, were the counts down from previous years? It seems there weren't as many people voting as in past years. 
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#179398 - 07/23/07 04:45 AM
Re: The Dark Side List 2007 (VOTE NOW!)
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My pleasure everyone.
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#179414 - 07/23/07 07:08 AM
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Thank you so much for this, flotsam  This must have been a lot of work, and I appreciate you doing this When I look at the list it is interesting that among the first 10 games is older games such as BG2, Gothic, Neverwinter Nights, Knights of the Old Republic. And of course, Morrowind as the best darkside game of (near) all times. Somehow three (3) Bioware games made it into the top ten.  How did that happen  ? They must be doing something properly, those Canadians... 
Edited by Karsten (07/23/07 07:10 AM) Edit Reason: added smileys
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