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Dead Reefs
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07/09/07 12:27 PM
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Hello Boomers.. I am 1 hour into game play...Not a bad game if you can get used to the interface..Graphics are superb..Game music is spooky.. So far no glitches..It loaded A-OK on my XP..with Radeon 9200 card. I am enjoying the story so far..I think most of you will like it..You just have to get used to using the keyboard.. There is no panning...So I am not getting sea-sickness  
Luv Dar
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/09/07 12:55 PM
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Save often, very often, there are some dead ends in the game and you CAN die.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/09/07 01:03 PM
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I did get very dizzy with it, but I found if I changed the default run to walk it made it ever so much better.
"How could drops of water know themselves to be a river? Yet the river flows on."
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Yeah, i also got dizzy when running, at times, i even got headaches.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/09/07 01:21 PM
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Hahaha
With alot of 1st person games I'd think...
Does anyone else need some dramamine to play these games?
Glad I'm not the only one getting sea sick playin those games!
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Re: Dead Reefs
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I don't know guys...But this game is alot better then awakened.. I am playing just fine without sea-sickness... I am also likeing it alot  You do have to get use to keyboard,but thats about it..
Luv Dar
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Jenny Hi With the awakened..There was much more panning all over the place.This game you walk ,and then you see your abject in view..without all that panning...Also the graphics are beautiful. I don't think its too dark...Its very spooky.. Everything about the game is good..I would give this game Two  If it was an point & click I would give it three thumpsup. I figured it out..Why I am not getting sea-sickness..Its because I can see the guy where he is walking..In awakened you couldn't see yourself..
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Just thought I would post this - so gammers are not totally scared away from getting this game. Many are having problems loading this game-- BUT--- I did NOT have any problems loading or- I and I have just started playing-- have had any problems playing. I loaded normal. 
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody
Gibran
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/11/07 10:33 AM
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A very strange thing happened to me when I was on my way to.....somewhere - I accidently hit a key on my keyboard, lower left corner I think - but I don't know which one, and 'panning' from somewhere above the scene was possible, not sure now how I got out of it either since I could not walk anywhere in this 'mode'.....anyone else have this experience? Also, a very weird scenario happened to me when I was in the grotto/catacombs....after you have played a bit and if you are curious enough you can read about it in HINTS under BJ's Dead Reefs - may contain spoilers! "shades of Conspiracies and my experiences there"!
Love, Betty Lou
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Re: Dead Reefs
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isit the one where you can look around .Sorry I am having to take it slow as I keep for getting what key is for what .Don t like the idea of not being able to go back wards and the s key the one that makes him spin around .Like the story up to yet .Doing a lot of spinning though .Boy I bet hes dizzy lol
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Re: Dead Reefs
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I can't remember who stated this- but someone at Hints.
They changed their settings--
on the number pad:
walk forward 8
left 4
right 6
Since mine show not only the numbers but also an arrow keyup-left-right-- this has helped me. now I really only have to remember the others
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/11/07 02:26 PM
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The keyboard is not bothering me at all now.
Maybe cause three years ago...I got use to playing Tomb Raider games...And that was all keyboard controlled
Luv Dar
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Betty Lou-- Could of this have happened to you--
this is taken out of Mag's walk thru-
....Tab key changes the camera angle in some areas....
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody
Gibran
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Betty Lou, the key you pressed is X(default), when you press that it goes to 1st person and you can look around but you cannot move. When you click X and an eye icon appears then that means that there is a place on the screen where an action can/must be performed.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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I loved everything about this game. It didn't take very long to get used to the keyboard. I didn't hit any dead ends and I had no problems with loading or playing. I really loved this game. I'm thinking of playing it again. I did need alot of help in the beginning and I got lots of it here. That was the other thing I loved so much. There were several others playing at the time and the help was just so overwhelmingly wonderful and a really good way. I love Gameboomers. Anyway that's my 2 cents.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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It is nice to see something positive. I haven't loaded it yet and have been scared to from all I've read. Ana
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/11/07 10:18 PM
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Oh Ana, it has a great story and graphics. I think the controls aren't difficult, just irritating. Mainly because he walks past doors and steps, and I have to turn him around and try and hit it just right. Come on in!
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/11/07 11:38 PM
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Is Daead Reef all KEYBOARD control , no mouse. I was really wanting to get the game, but, heard so many probs. with dead ends. Now, Darleen you say it is Keyboard. OH just great. I hate keyboard controlled games cause I'm just to busy fiddling with controls I can neve enjoy the game. So if this is so, I'll pass on it. Darn it.  EDIT: Now, I'm depressed. After reading all the notes here. it sounds totally keyboard control. BOO! HOO!
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Oh Ana, it has a great story and graphics. I think the controls aren't difficult, just irritating. Mainly because he walks past doors and steps, and I have to turn him around and try and hit it just right. Come on in! I am playing Drakan right now and I'm so accustomed to flying upside down and crashing into cliffs with Aroch that I am sure walking past steps won't phase me.  This game is next on my stack.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/12/07 08:21 AM
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The x key is sort of like a hint system...When you press it you can see all the points of interest..
Ana...I am almost done with the game...I am now giving this game three snaps..Also on a scale from 1 to 10 I have changed my mind it will get a Big 10
Luv Dar
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Mag does that mean there is a patch for the end?--
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Gibran
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Just for clarification - there are NO dead ends on this game.
Ok, tell it to all the people who encountered a the first time they entered the witch's hut. No witch, no memory potion... I can send you a saved game if you like, to see for yourself. Other people also state, that there is a bug on the clock at Hooke's house. Some other bugs I found: 1. If you use the electric eel on Patrick before you found out about the new body on the beach, 'shore area' opens and there is a murder scene there (continuity error - this area opens prematurely). Later, when you need the Shore area again, in order to find there the boy who gives you the new eel, there is no way to trigger it open again.
2. You talk to the gravedigger on the cemetery the first time and he gives you his keys. Take the keys, go out the door and re-enter his house. The keys are still there and you can take them again!
3. The document 'destroying the demon' appears at your notebook before you solve the pigeons puzzle at Hooke's house.You obtain it prematurely when you get the document 'controlling the demon' at the now unhidden cave where you confront Edward and Hooke
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Ahhhh, the "X" key!? Yes, that must be what I accidently hit, and in the manual it says it is used to "search" and I did not know what it/they meant by that. Thanks for this, now I know what happened...and can use it again if I need to. mmmmm, gives me a 'hint' when I use it, mmmmm, OK. Luv's ya
Love, Betty Lou
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Re: Dead Reefs
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07/12/07 10:17 AM
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Elven King,
Those are glitches not dead ends. Those are due to technical issues. I did not experience those as well as some other gamers.
Winfrey, I inquired from the developer about that. They did say that they have corrected the clues already.
Betty Lou, Yes - that X is helpful.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Well...Just for the record...I got my game from someone in the UK. I am now way pass the witch..Have not found any problems at all. I am taking my time & exploring everything..I am listening to what I have to do next...Not jumping ahead...I have not made him run..Cause sometimes that can cause a glitch where you might get stuck in a mountain & unable to move.
Last edited by Darleen2003; 07/12/07 11:14 AM.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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I have no option but to take it slow but I am enjoying it .Don t like not been able to go back wards but getting there .Like the story and in places it can be a little light hearted to .Like the Alcamist lol My faverite colour blue to
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Re: Dead Reefs
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I am playing Drakan right now and I'm so accustomed to flying upside down and crashing into cliffs with Aroch that I am sure walking past steps won't phase me. This game is next on my stack. Since you've played Drakan, I'd call you a PHD keyboard user.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Winfrey, I heard from the developers: About the patch: The fix patch should be released soon. About using other controllers in Dead Reefs: The current game doesn’t support game controller but there is one solution that some people may find useful. There is software call Pinnacle Game Profile http://www.pinnaclegameprofiler.com/ that allows you to connect just about any type of controller to any type of game. I would recommend use it for Dead Reefs also.
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Thanks MaG.. That is good news for others that is having a problem.. Its a wonderful game...well worth the money
Luv Dar
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Dar== I just got to use the map-- have you used the map yet.
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody
Gibran
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Winfrey...I didn't know about the map..Until I read MaGs walkthrough...Awwwwwwww I said to my self..I am supposed to go to the shore..BUT how?//
Thats how I learn about the map..& visiting the witch..
Luv Dar
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Re: Dead Reefs
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I just got to the pier-- have not visited the witch yet-- although I did meet her-- going to fix dinner now
Last edited by Winfrey; 07/12/07 06:54 PM. Reason: spelling
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Ok Boomers I have just finished Dead reefs...Who is still playing the ending is the Koolest.. What a Great game..It was pretty long to..I like that 
Luv Dar
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Didn't get to play much today-- I am looking for Edward- just did the stone column
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody
Gibran
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Finished and I enjoyed playing it .Must admit those pidgeons got on my nerves .Kept dying .I know you have the clues but every bodies mind works different .Mind you there was one that was a cert .The afended one lol
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Re: Dead Reefs
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I think I found an error in wording-- On the boat- he kept saying I need to make the table STRONGER I kept looking for a way to do this-- then I read Mags walkthru-- He should have been saying :/
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Winfrey....
There are several things you have to put on the table..
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Re: Dead Reefs
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Winfrey
BAAG Specialist
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BAAG Specialist
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 7,721
The Country
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Dar-- Yea-- I figured that out-- but he is saying stronger not heavier-as Mags walkthru does??
Would that I could be the peacemaker in your soul that I might turn the discord and the rivalry of your elements into oneness and melody
Gibran
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Re: Dead Reefs
[Re: Winfrey]
#178133
07/20/07 09:51 AM
07/20/07 09:51 AM
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MaG
Sonic Boomer
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Sonic Boomer
Joined: Dec 1999
Posts: 69,973
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Winfrey, That was my interpretation - that is why it is in apostrophe.  It is a misuse of a word.
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Re: Dead Reefs
[Re: MaG]
#179960
07/24/07 12:00 PM
07/24/07 12:00 PM
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Rockford, Illinois
sierramindy
Addicted Boomer
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Addicted Boomer
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,853
Rockford, Illinois
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All along I thought this was a first person game so I haven't been paying much attention to it, but just now I learn it is a third person game and I'm willing to take a chance on it. So over to Amazon I will go ...
To love is to be happy with!
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