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#204359 - 09/19/07 12:22 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Renee]
Preston C. Offline
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Registered: 07/07/07
Posts: 76
So far I like it. I am not saying that I love it, though. I don't know what to think right now. So I will save my comments for later.

Although, can anyone tell me what the eastern like code spells out? I can't figure that part out.

Thanks,
Preston

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#204360 - 09/19/07 12:27 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Preston C.]
MaG Offline
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Registered: 12/28/99
Posts: 65686
Preston,

If you need hint or help - best to post at Hints forum.

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#204389 - 09/19/07 05:17 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: MaG]
connie Offline
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Registered: 07/12/02
Posts: 7979
Loc: winter springs fl.
I just voted. It is a very nice game, but I also feel I missed alot while reading the words. There is too much dialog to have to read and not be able to look around. I had a little trouble with the panning ,but would get used to it in the full game.
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#204499 - 09/19/07 10:33 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: connie]
Carla Offline
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Registered: 03/20/01
Posts: 2853
Loc: United Kingdom
Downloaded it and played a bit:because I'm not english, I'm quite used to read subtitles, but these are really fast even for an expert like me! Maybe because the leading actor is a very fast speaker?All the Hungarians talk fast as him?
I found very useful the interface with all the dialogues, so I could read what I missed.
The story is intriguing, but I agree with the other members:I can't stand the 360 degree play,make me feel dizzy, I would have preferred arrows with fixed directions.
Thanks to Private Moon for the chance to tell you this!
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#204569 - 09/19/07 01:12 PM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Carla]
Preston C. Offline
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Registered: 07/07/07
Posts: 76
Well... I thought it was pretty good. I do like computer rendered environments because you can create things that do not exist! I do hope that computer graphics will achieve complete perfection of environments one day. Some already have I feel. I love the panning, being able to see things in a 360 degrees is great. I do not like the Nancy Drew games as much because you cannot see all around you. And in a game like Yoomurjack's Ring panning is probably essential. Things were kind of blurry. I had quite a good tour of Eger! Nice, historic place. I think that there needs to be a marker on the map telling you where you are at. It stinks not seeing things in real time. I would like to see people moving and trees being blown by the wind, cars moving etc. Primarily though I hope that the companies focus on creating imaginary environments because you can do so much more. Eventually all the aspects of creating computer rendered environments, people, water, fire, etc. will be perfect!, I think. You can do things that are not on earth, which I find to be amazing.

I know that the team at Private Moon has worked hard on this and I wish them the best.


Edited by Preston C. (09/19/07 01:16 PM)

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#204607 - 09/19/07 02:52 PM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Preston C.]
Mad Offline
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Registered: 11/21/00
Posts: 23202
Loc: United Kingdom
Hi smile

Have played a little of the demo now and had no problem with the panning. Just slowed it down via OPTIONS in the game menu.

I agree - the subtitles do tend to disappear rather quickly. But perhaps this is something that can be remedied think

Nice graphics and easy interface though thumbsup

Spent a short time investigating the hotel and my bedroom and am now exploring the town - but so far haven't encountered anything more exciting than ....

Click to reveal..
carved signs above doorways

So am hoping for something to happen soon lol

Cheers.

Mad wave
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#204701 - 09/19/07 05:47 PM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Mad]
Shany Offline
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Registered: 02/27/07
Posts: 472
What a long demo! I've been playing for an hour and I think I'm about 2/3 through it.
I would love it if you keep the original Hungarian and just make the subtitles last a little longer - it would look weird dubbed, and it'll lose it's charm. Plus, my mom's side of my family is from Hungary, and they'd love to see a game in Hungarian wink.

Here are my thoughts so far:
What I liked:
-Excellent quality - videos look wonderful, and the static pictures are lovely as well.
-The feature of having a printed letter version on the handwritten letters is one every game should have. Not all of us have perfect eyesight, and not all of us can read joined writing.
-The acting is pretty good. So far only one character seemed to over-act.
-The map is a must, and it works well. I would've liked written names on it as well, though, as the library and the hotel looked pretty similar (or maybe just have a picture of books to represent the library?).

What I didn't like:
-There's too much freedom. It happens alot in games like these that show a real location - you can see everything. Though it looks very nice I would've liked to be led by the hand at the start of the game. Take me to the tourism office at first, and only then let me roam around. I was walking around for a good ten minutes before I checked the map. Also, half the times I was walking I would end up in front of a doorway I couldn't go into, which was frustrating.
-Like other people said - too much panning. It's a weird sort of panning where you need to place your mouse as close to the middle of the screen as possible to be able to move comfortably. This game could benefit from free 360 panning with the cursor fixed in the middle of the screen like in the Kheops games. And then make the screen fixed when you enter a close-up, or need to solve a puzzle. It makes for much faster movement.
-Too much reading - this is just a demo and there are already five letters and one journal! It's tiring. The letters also seem overly long, but that may be just me.
-At the start of the game the main character will urge you a couple of times to get out of the room. It happened way too soon. I had just begun playing with a new interface to get used to, and two letters to read in the inventory. The last thing I want to do is get out of the room - I want to explore my options, read those letters, explore the room for anything of interest and only then get out.

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#204751 - 09/19/07 07:24 PM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Shany]
Betty Lou Offline
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Registered: 07/29/00
Posts: 11334
Loc: Sacramento, CA USA
I find the graphics just fine, the panning is OK and gives one the freedom to look around even if one cannot go everywhere one would like to. The 'open'/'closed' cursor is great. Am unsure yet how to look at the map or read the letters. The English dubbing below the scene moves too fast as others have said. And since one cannot read English coming from the lips of the speakers it doesn't matter if it is synced or not when they are speaking a different language (at least to me). I played about 15-20 minutes and answered their 3 questions. And it does not bother me that I was 'tossed' out of my room early on, I just ignored that urgent GET OUT until I felt I was ready to leave grin Nothing stopped me from moving around the room as long as I wished.
Looking forward to the full game, will buy it if the price fits my limited game-budget.
Love, Betty Lou
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#204833 - 09/20/07 03:13 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Darleen03]
Upsydaisy Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 07/23/05
Posts: 814
Loc: Sunny Devon, United Kingdom
Enjoyed it, shades of Carol Reed Mysteries. Actually liked the panning around, got to see more of the city. Very smooth controls and easy interface. Would like English dubbing because I like to look at someone's face when they are talking, and have to take my eyes off to read dialogue. Feel more involved in the game. I'm off to vote. wave

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#204984 - 09/20/07 12:26 PM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Darleen03]
paris Offline
Shy Boomer

Registered: 06/23/06
Posts: 16
Loc: Portland, OR
Not my kind of game either. Doubt that I'll buy it, and I do end up buying most of the new adventure games that come onto the market.

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#205244 - 09/21/07 06:29 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: paris]
barbarosso Offline
Shy Boomer

Registered: 10/18/05
Posts: 39
Loc: Narrandera, NSW
OK, I loved the demo but I have played AGON. I am impatiently awaiting the Sword of Toledo.

In reality, the 3D gives an illusion of freedom, but your path is very restricted. I liked the map movements. I didn't have a problem with the dialogue, but I agree it is a little on the fast side.

As Hungarian is not an Indo-European language, I can't even guess at the Hungarian words, except those that have been imported into Hungarian and I know 5 languages.

Now for some minor criticisms. There are some irritating typos. For example in the flat "Doumentum" which should read Document. In Hungarian it is Dokumentum.

The English translation of the Hungarian dialogue is I suspect, a little too literal. When Jonathan met Juli at the Tourist Bureau, the exchanging of phone numbers sounded too "European" and not as an American would say it (and I'm not American - obviously by my spelling).

The demo is very linear and (surprise, surprise) the simple substitution code left punctuation and word spacing to make it obvious. I would not care to decipher a more modern code with even letter spacing and no punctuation. As it is, it is a good simple puzzle.

A 5 or 6 GByte download is just too massive, even with very fast broadband. My ISP normally runs at about 150 KBytes/sec. The download only ran at 40, so there was some limitation at the demo server end.

I will happily buy the game. I love FMV and the sights of Eger were marvellous.

Becky, it would be nice if (constructive) comments could be passed on to the developers.

Sorry for the long post.

Cheers, barbarosso

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#205272 - 09/21/07 07:45 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: barbarosso]
Becky Offline
The Medieval Lady
Sonic Boomer

Registered: 02/16/00
Posts: 26893
Loc: Stony Brook, New York, USA
Hi barbarosso --

The information will definitely reach the developers.

No need to apologize for the long post. grin

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#205361 - 09/21/07 11:41 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Becky]
KateVa Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 12/30/00
Posts: 618
Loc: virginia
I give it a Thumbs Up thumbsup

Panning was ok for me.

I actually preferred hearing the Hungarian and had no problems with the subtitles AFTER the opening. There is too much to see to be able to read and look at the story at the same time. This is also a very stilted translation and not at all American English. I think the designers would benefit from having a voice actor step in here, after changing the translation. (and I agree, there are dialogs that dont ring true on the subtitles)

I really enjoyed the music. The ominous sounds as he entered the wine cellar, the music in the cathedral added to my enjoyment.

Thank you and I can't wait to continue.

Kate
Also enjoyed just being a tourist. smile

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#205545 - 09/21/07 07:49 PM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: KateVa]
HorseDancer Offline
Settled Boomer

Registered: 01/02/01
Posts: 490
Loc: Port Orchard, WA USA
I am downloading it now after reading your comments. I like the games where you can hit Enter to go to the next text. I read very fast, and get bored if it takes too long. I have never played a Hungarian game before, But I think I would like to watch the action and then be able to read the text.

Thanks for the Demo!!

HorseDancer
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#205655 - 09/22/07 05:12 AM Re: Yoomurjak's Ring Exclusive Demo -- OPINIONS NEEDED! [Re: Becky]
mikeplay Offline
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Registered: 07/17/04
Posts: 225
Loc: Georgia
I am downloading it as we speak will let you know what I think. Mike
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