reikidave, hi,



Now I'm certain you've got two German game developers mixed up! The game that needed the huge 241MB patch was *Secret Files: Tunguska*, by German developers Fusionsphere Systems/Animation Arts. The Moment of Silence, by German developers House of Tales, only had a *630KB* v1.01 patch.

I reviewed TMoS for Quandary, and IMO it was one of the better adventures of recent years. I've been reviewing adventure and role-playing games (and writing comprehensive guides) for over 10 years now, and don't think I'm that far off base:

http://www.quandaryland.com/jsp/dispArticle.jsp?index=675

Of course, one person's meat is another person's poison... but I'm convinced you have two games mixed up here :-\

Regards,
MetzO'Magic

I never finished "Time machine" and "Uru"
They are the only games i never finished.

In Time machine it started off nice, but later on i got killed all the time and did not see a way to finish..all shaky and sweaty hands.

Could not manage to perform the actions properly in Uru. Keyboard control in games is not my cup of tea.

Apart from the few really bad games which most will agree on I would think that it comes down to individual likes and dislikes; it’s a meat and poison issue.

For example Barrow Hill wasn’t a bad game as such but it just didn’t do any thing for me and saying that I bet that I am the only one here that didn’t care for it.

I am playing Runaway Two at the moment and really enjoying it but then I prefer the old cartoon graphics. Ok, being picky I don’t care for the dialogue trees that you have to exhaust to unlock inventory items, but what game was ever perfect?

I've got to agree with you there Carousel, there have been quite a few games that people have really raved about, they weren't bad games but they just didn't do it for me & I was left wondering what all the fuss was about or what I missed! Good topic for another thread?

I would have trouble saying what is a "worst game" but so many listed as bad I actually loved, like Frankenstein, Moment of Silence, Mystery of the Druids and even Paradise with all the bugs I was able to complete. If I can complete a game I consider it a good game.

With that in mind there are not many I haven't completed and TimeLapse and Broken Sword 3 are among them. Mystery of the Nautilus is just too much trouble to get it to play so I would put it in my worst game lump.

That is just MHO.

Linda

Hi, reikidave!

I can't decide which one was worse between "Conspiracies" and "Missing Since January", so I'll list them both.

TMoS is one of my favorite games, but I guess differing opinions is what makes life interesting <G>!

Susan

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For example Barrow Hill wasn’t a bad game as such but it just didn’t do any thing for me and saying that I bet that I am the only one here that didn’t care for it. ....

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Barrow Hill did nothing for me either - so you are not alone!

- you're correct, metzomagic - it was Tunguska. Mind you, my opinion still stands about TMoS. My UK copy also came with Starforce copy protection. Now that is a nasty bit of coding - whatever game I have played which had it has caused my computer to go Blue Screen of Death, even with updated Starforce drivers.

Your point about "meat and poison" is good - I have played Fahrenheit 4 or 5 times, yet I know people who loathe the "Simon Says" controls. At the end of of the day, there aren't really any "best" games, nor any "worst" (I offer as proof the man I spotted in our local gaming store buying Leisure Suit Larry 7 - indeed, it takes all sorts). This thread was really intended to get a discussion going about what people like or don't like in adventure games.

Plato summed it up well:

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That's not an exact quote, but close enough.

Happy gaming,

reikidave

The US version of Moment of Silence did not have any copy "protection."
That was one BIG advantage of the US version.

If only there was a PC version of Still Life that didn't have S***Force.
I was forced to play Still Life on XBox, which wasn't bad, but I'd have liked it on PC as well.

The worst adventure game I've played this decade has to be "Druuna Morbus Gravis" (horrible,horrible game)

Yes Haze I started this one and found moving stuff with the mouse off putting .As you said very dull and I found my self getting depressed lol .I think all in all the older games even though the grafics were nt as good the story lines were beter .New games some times have good story lines but it as all been done befor .Though I must admit Blackwell Legacy was differant but now we have ghost story games every where .Its like watching a soap some times .Some one comes out with an idea and every one else seems to follow lol

I've never met an adventure game that I could call "horrible." Thank goodness.

To tell the truth, I liked Larry until Larry 8, which isn't an adventure game at all. (It used to be witty and ironic and lewd. Larry 8 was JUST lewd.)

There's a best/worst of everything in every adventure game. After all, nobody's perfect (except perhaps April Ryan). For example:

Sherlock Holmes: Silver Earring. Came for the adventure and great story and left for the timed mazes in the forest.
7th Guest: Came for the puzzles and left for the maze.
ND ghost dog: came for the story and got lost in the forest
(ok I'm beginning to see a pattern here)

If it doesn't have a maze, I'll love it!

Seriously - it all comes down to likes and dislikes and personal weaknesses. If you're not a listener you'd be turned off by Culpa Innata, if you're half blind (I play hidden object games with photoshop on alt-tab) like me you wouldn't like Wintersonne, and if you get lost all the time like Ryoga in the Ranma 1/2 series then 1st person adventures without a map is not for you.

I find that adventure games are usually made by people who love the genre, wants to tell a good story, and they work hard at making something beautiful. I can't say the same for all FPS's or all RPGs but adventure games are always a labor of love, even if they're not perfect, and that's why I love them right back!

I couldn't get along with the Martin Mystere game. Looked so promising but I disliked the characters a lot and just sold the game after playing it through. I just couldn't click with it, much like my reaction to Barrow Hill, which I didn't even complete.

Moment of Silence was the worst game I played,I kept trying to play it why I don't know finally gave up on it!!

Very good begining, some interesting mini-puzzles, but for the most part Missing Since January was not worth anybody's money.