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#295112 - 03/16/08 01:35 PM The Perfect Game
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Is there any game out there that anyone would consider perfect? By that I mean that it doesn't include ANYTHING that annoys you like e.g character voices you don't like, puzzles you hate such as sliders, mazes etc, timed sequences, not enough save slots, repetitive dialogue trees (was inspired there by the Lost Crown 'nit-picking' thread!)or anything that mars your enjoyment. There must be no 'buts' to your nominations but like me may have forgotten the 'worst bits'! I've a feeling this could be a very short thread! lol

I'll start with some games I'd put in my perfect game category: Culpa Innata, the 1st 3 Carol Reed Games & both Siberia games. smile

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#295154 - 03/16/08 02:23 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: chrissie]
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Hi,

I think the one for me is Myst 3 Exile - it is hard but the best I've played and I played quite a lot... smile
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#295198 - 03/16/08 03:29 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: Iva]
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Good thread! I am a lot less picky than a lot of people so, just off the top of my head. I'm sure there's more on my "perfect" list. razz

- Day of the Tentacle
- Grim Fandango
- Gabriel Knight 1
- Broken Sword 1 and 2
- Myst 1, 2*, 3
- Obsidian*
- Lost Crown (so far so good)

Note how most of these are older games? smile

*Now, there was a fair amount of disk swapping involved in these 2 games but given the technology back then, it was totally unavoidable from a technical perspective, so I don't count that as a downside.


Edited by misa (03/16/08 03:29 PM)

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#295202 - 03/16/08 03:36 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: misa]
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I think that this was not the games i liked or enjoyd most becuase there are very many exelent ones but the absolute *perfect* game that has no faults at all and can serve as a modle for any other game.
I canot think of 1 singel fault in the classical Day Of The Tentacle.it is also number 1 on the list from above misa

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#295203 - 03/16/08 03:37 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: misa]
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None at all.
Not if perfect means perfect.

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#295207 - 03/16/08 03:43 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: chrissie]
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waveHard to say what "perfect" means because what is perfect for one person might not be perfect for someone else-anyway, my idea of close to perfect would be:
No problems installing and it runs perfectly on my system,
An interesting, intellegent storyline
Believable characters with meaningful dialogue
Some humor, along with social commentary
Beautiful,immersive, eye catching settings
Saves when I want, not preset by the developers

Some games I've played that have most of these qualities are:
Syberia 1&2, TLJ and Dreamfall,Uru Complete chronicles,
Riven, Thief 1,2&3 Morrowind, Anachronox, Outcast, KOTOR

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#295236 - 03/16/08 04:20 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: Jenny100]
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A game could have no annoying features whatsoever, and therefore be theoretically "perfect", but that still might not make it a great game.

I'm struggling to think of any game that might be classed as such. There always seems to be a puzzle, or a character, or something-or-other in an otherwise fantastic game that causes me to momentarily chew furniture and grump at my monitor.

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#295271 - 03/16/08 05:43 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: Rushes]
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Riven and Myst Exile.

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#295286 - 03/16/08 05:59 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: colpet]
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Perfect....???

AHHH Yes... A game that makes you happy..Where you have no complaints....

For me it is the game ...Last Half Of Darkness <Spirits EyE> monky
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#295437 - 03/16/08 11:56 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: Darleen03]
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Hi smile

I doubt I could truthfully call any game "perfect" but a lot I have played have been close grin

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#295488 - 03/17/08 06:31 AM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: Rushes]
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Originally Posted By: Rushes
A game could have no annoying features whatsoever, and therefore be theoretically "perfect", but that still might not make it a great game....


Theoretically 'perfect' was what I had in mind Rushes but as to whether this makes for a great game I thought you made a good point here LindaMarion, as your 'perfect' game was not your favourite & intriguingly described other games as excellent.
Is this because the subject matter/story etc was more appealing or is perfection bland & the inclusion of 'annoyances' make for a more interesting experience?

misa, you included GK1 on your list which has an infuriating 'mummy' sequence but take your point that you are a lot less picky than a lot of people, & bigmamma you included Dreamfall which has timed sequences & combat but see also that you included some Darkside games. So does this mean that either, you enjoy the challenging parts or, that they are not significantly annoying to detract from the 'perfection'?

iva, colpet & misa, you have all included Myst Exile - the style of game is not my 1st choice but from the 1/4 of the game I've played through I can see where you're coming from!

I agree, bigmamma that the idea of perfection can vary from person to person. I also appreciate Rushes, Jenny & Mad that for many people there is no such thing as the 'perfect' game - so if the annoying features in you favourite games were taken out would this make them perfect? If so would the game still retain it's overall appeal & remain a favourite or would it lose some character?

And Darleen, I loved your reply 'A game that makes you happy..Where you have no complaints....'! (I agree with your choice BTW - I'd forgotten about that one)

Most games make me happy despite 'the hair pulling parts' in many! & would describe most of them as incidental frustrations that don't really detract from my overall enjoyment of the games - many of which I favour over some I would consider as nearer 'perfect' e.g Evil Under The Sun. So how far should developers go to cater for gamer's dislikes or do we get more interesting games where they go along with their 'creative flow'? smile



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#295563 - 03/17/08 09:19 AM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: chrissie]
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Originally Posted By: chrissie
misa, you included GK1 on your list which has an infuriating 'mummy' sequence but take your point that you are a lot less picky than a lot of people, & bigmamma you included Dreamfall which has timed sequences & combat but see also that you included some Darkside games. So does this mean that either, you enjoy the challenging parts or, that they are not significantly annoying to detract from the 'perfection'?


For GK1, I thought the mummy sequence was well integrated into the story and it didn't detract from my gaming experience. GK2 on the other hand was a completely different story with that end game maze! smile

For Myst, I included 1-3 because I had no complaints about them. As for Myst 4, there were at least 2 hair-pulling sequences in them. Anyone who's played that one knows which ones I mean. razz

I agree with others that one person's perfect is different than another person's. For example, I love slider puzzles so I never get annoyed with doing them. smile


Edited by misa (03/17/08 09:59 AM)

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#295565 - 03/17/08 09:21 AM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: misa]
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Can I just say I am loving Lost Crown. Its about as perfect as possible.
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#295655 - 03/17/08 11:29 AM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: Darleen03]
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Originally Posted By: Darleen2003

For me it is the game ...Last Half Of Darkness <Spirits EyE> monky



Originally Posted By: chrissie

(I agree with your choice BTW - I'd forgotten about that one)


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#295732 - 03/17/08 01:16 PM Re: The Perfect Game [Re: chrissie]
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Originally Posted By: chrissie
...so if the annoying features in you favourite games were taken out would this make them perfect?


Yes, it would. Black Mirror would be perfect if the "timewasting" sequences were removed. Still Life would be perfect if the lockpicking and laser puzzles were removed/made easier. Perfect for me, that is. I'm sure there are many folk who love lockpicking, dodging lasers, and wandering aimlessly from screen to screen with nothing to do for half an hour! grin
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