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#524962 - 07/18/09 05:37 PM Dark Side list 2009
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Hi all,
Here tis. 13 days to list 13 Dark Side games that other people should play. Your paler siblings have just identified the adventure games - over here, its all about those games that you think newbies should play if they were minded to take a stroll in the dark.
You all know the drill but here are the rules:

1. You can recommend a maximum of 13 games, but you can recommend less.
2. You can't list a series, unless you use single votes for each game.
3. Expansion packs will be considered seperate games, on the basis that the original might be ordinary but an expansion pack superb.
4. Consistent with (3), packaging a game with seperate expansion packs (eg Morrowind Game of the Year edition) does not count as a single game - the original and its two expansion packs will still need to be listed seperately.
5. Witcher and Witcher Enhanced will be considered one game (the extra bits were not seperate expansion packs).
6. Any "dark" game (ie not pure adventure or casual) can be listed, irrespective of genre.
7. You don't have to indicate the type or genre, and you are not limited to any specific number of games in any genre. Go ahead and list 13 rpg's if you choose.
8. It is essentially a pc list, but given that many players have consoles as well, if you want to list games for the console go right ahead.

If you can list alphabetically it helps me count, and please use full names, as I am not as familiar with titles over here. If I get confused, I will holler.
Lets go devil


Edited by flotsam (07/27/09 05:56 PM)
Edit Reason: clrified some game listings
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#524976 - 07/18/09 06:08 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Thanks, flotsam.

Have fun everyone!

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#525008 - 07/18/09 07:29 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: MaG]
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I will start things:

Bioshock
Crysis
Divine Divinity
Elder Scrolls: Oblivion
Fallout 3
FEAR
Half Life 2
Ico
Indigo Prophecy
Outcast
Realms of the Haunting
Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines
Witcher




Edited by flotsam (07/19/09 05:25 PM)
Edit Reason: got the wrong title!
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#525051 - 07/18/09 09:02 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Thanks Flotsam!!!! wave

Here we go. Thought I'd mix it up a bit this year. wink

Advent Rising
Baldur's Gate 2
Gears of War 2
Halo
Lost Odyssey (Xbox360)
Mass Effect
Medal of Honor: Airborne
Morrowind: Tribunal
Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer
Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
Pool of Radiance (DOS)
Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
Star Wars: Republic Commando
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#525093 - 07/18/09 11:05 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Thanks Flotsam! I look forward to this list, it helps me figure out just what I need next! And I need help because I'm stuck on just these:

Fable - The Lost Chapters
Oblivion
The Witcher
Titan Quest
Titan Quest -The Immortal Throne
Zanzarah

I'd like to make my list 'The Witcher' for the rest of the 7 slots but Is that allowed? rotfl
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#525096 - 07/18/09 11:31 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: looney]
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Hi Flotsam- Here is my list, hope I am doing this right. grin

Beyond Atlantis 2 (Also known as Atlantis 3: The New World)
Dungeon Siege
Dungeon Siege 2
Loki
Sacred 2
Space Quest
The Chosen: Well of Souls
The Witcher Enhanced
Titan Quest
Titan Quest - The Immortal Throne

I would also like to add The Witcher for my last three, but I think that would be wrong.

maggie wave


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/18/09 11:59 PM)
Edit Reason: Placed in alphabetic order, corrected numerics

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#525101 - 07/19/09 12:03 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: looney]
Trail_Mystic Offline
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Originally Posted By: looney
I'd like to make my list 'The Witcher' for the rest of the 7 slots but Is that allowed? rotfl


Originally Posted By: maggie57
I would also like to add The Witcher for my last three, but I think that would be wrong.
maggie wave


shame

lol
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#525102 - 07/19/09 12:09 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: maggie57]
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Hi flotsam - And thanks

If oldies are no longer allowed, please delete them ....

Baldur’s Gate
Betrayal in Antara
Divine Divinity
Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old republic II
Might & Magic VI
Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights
Planescape Torment
Quest for Glory V
Return to Krondor
Witcher


Cheers.

Mad grin


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/27/09 08:21 AM)
Edit Reason: Removed "Elder Scrolls" preface re-alphabetized
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#525103 - 07/19/09 12:12 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Mad]
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Oldies are fine Mad.
And the only game you are allowed to vote for multiple times is Fallout 3 devilchili
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#525106 - 07/19/09 12:16 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Originally Posted By: flotsam
....And the only game you are allowed to vote for multiple times is Fallout 3 devilchili


Return of shame

lol
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#525120 - 07/19/09 02:49 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Well, since I've only just recently started playing RPG's or other Dark Side games, my list will be very short.
So here goes smile

Fable - The Lost Chapters
Fallout 3
Sniper Elite
Morrowind
Oblivion


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/27/09 08:05 AM)
Edit Reason: Removed "Elder Scrolls" preface
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#525128 - 07/19/09 04:14 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: misslilo]
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13 slots are not enough for me... pacify

But, ok.. let's just put the first 13 that come to mind...

Age of Mythology
Gothic
Gothic 2: NOTR
Heroes of Might and Magic 3
Heroes of Might and Magic 5
Jade Empire
Morrowind
Morrowind : Bloodmoon
Morrowind : Tribunal
Oblivion
Planescape Torment
Rise of Nations 2: Rise of Legends
Witcher EE

I hope I won't regret not taking a bit longer to ponder over my list... Oh, well, as long as Morrowind and the Witcher are in... oh, and Gothic and ROL, and HoMM.. lol

EDIT: Edited to seperate Bloodmoon and Tribunal, which are both included in the Morrowind GOTY edition.


Edited by Moondancer (07/28/09 03:30 AM)
Edit Reason: Seperated Morrowind expansions
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#525227 - 07/19/09 12:15 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Moondancer]
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And the only game you are allowed to vote for multiple times is Fallout 3

Hehehe !! You wish !! shame
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#525261 - 07/19/09 01:09 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Mad]
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This is not my usual area of gaming but i have played a few. Here is my list and i will tell you why i chose these games. Bad hands(arthritis)..so i was able to find cheat codes or 'trainer' for them in order that i Could play! Some of us need more help than a Hint!

Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare
American McGee's Alice
Clive Barker's Undying
Draken
The Curse of Isis
The Wheel of Time
Vampire Masquerade-(the first one)




Edited by gamenut (07/19/09 01:23 PM)

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#525301 - 07/19/09 03:10 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: gamenut]
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My list would constitute the following:

Betrayal at Krondor
Civilization IV
Halo
Heroes of Might & Magic II
MechWarrior 3
Morrowind
The Witcher: Enhanced Edition
Wing Commander: Privateer
X-Wing (also for Windows)
Consoles:
Grandia (Saturn, PlayStation)
Metroid Prime (GameCube)
Perfect Dark (Nintendo 64)
Suikoden II (PlayStation)


Edited by J. King (07/19/09 03:32 PM)
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#525325 - 07/19/09 04:10 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: J. King]
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This is the first year that I've really had more than the allotted games to list and had to narrow mine down. None the less, my top 5 for the Dark Side remain pretty much the same as last year with Witcher easing out Morrowind for 1st followed closely by KOTOR 1 & 2 and then the TR series. Unfortunately Betrayal at Antara (my first RPG) got squeezed out of my list this year because it is difficult to play on the newer machines.

Blood Rayne
Deus Ex
Divine Divinity
Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old Republic 2
Morrowind GOTY
No One Lives Forever
Sacred Gold
Tomb Raider 2
Tomb Raider Underworld
Two Worlds
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
Witcher enhanced


I still believe that Witcher will rule the roost lol yay


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/27/09 08:10 AM)
Edit Reason: removed Elder Scrolls preface re-alphabetized
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#525352 - 07/19/09 04:56 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: J. King]
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Hi ya J and welcome to GameBoomers wave

Is there an absolute favorite?
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#525390 - 07/19/09 06:45 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: looney4labs]
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Morrowind is far and away the greatest game I have ever played/continue to play smile

I have included NWN not for the main game (which is average), but for some great downloadable user made campaigns.

Arx Fatalis
Baldur's Gate 2
Deus Ex
Divine Divinity
Drakensang
Gothic 1
Gothic 2
Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights
Planescape Torment
S.T.A.L.K.E.R Shadow of Chernobyl
Vampire the Masquerade Bloodlines
Witcher


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/27/09 08:11 AM)
Edit Reason: Removed "Elder Scrolls preface re-alphabetized
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#525484 - 07/19/09 11:39 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: pantheon]
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Gun
Half Life 2
Knights of the Old Republic
Left4Dead
Marvel Ultimate Alliance
Mass Effect
Neverwinter Nights
Oblivion
Ratatouille
Resident Evil 4
Team Fortress 2
The Witcher Enhanced
Vampire: The Masquerade Bloodlines


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/27/09 08:12 AM)
Edit Reason: removed "Elder Scrolls" preface re-alphabetized

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#525654 - 07/20/09 10:20 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Templeton Peck]
croaker Offline
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Bioshock
Gothic II
Knights of the Old Republic
Mass Effect
No One Lives Forever
Okami [Wii]
Planescape: Torment
Psychonauts
Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
Oblivion
Witcher
Thief: Deadly Shadows (Thief III)
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines


I limited myself to choose only one from each the series above, with Thief III likely being the most controversial -- I just feel that the Shalebridge Cradle area tips it over Thief I.

EDIT -- I'd probably have switched one of these for Fallout 3, but I'm waiting for the GotY edition to come out as it includes all the add-on content.


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/27/09 08:14 AM)
Edit Reason: removed "Elder Scrolls" preaface re-alphabetized
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#525688 - 07/20/09 11:50 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Trail_Mystic]
Karsten Offline
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Thank you, flotsam smile

Here is my list:


Baldur's Gate
Baldur's Gate 2
Bioshock
Morrowind
Oblivion
F.E.A.R.
Fallout 1
Fallout 3
Halo
Portal
Planescape Torment
STALKER
The Witcher

Greeting from

Karsten

laugh



Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/27/09 08:15 AM)
Edit Reason: Removed "Elder Scrolls" preface re-alphabetized
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#525784 - 07/20/09 03:51 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Templeton Peck]
hugh Offline
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It's more than 13 but here goes

Assassin's Creed
God of War 2
God of War: Chains of Olympus
Jade Empire
Plants vs Zombies
Silent Hill: Origins
Splinter Cell: Essentials
Swat 4
The Godfather 2
Tomb Raider: Underworld
Uncharted : Drake's fortune
Velvet Assassin
X-men Origins Wolverine

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unfortunately I couldn't add sims 2 pets, seasons and indigo prophecy but I just wanted to add the new ones that I had played. smile

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#525994 - 07/21/09 03:39 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: hugh]
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Nice start people thumbsup
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#526000 - 07/21/09 04:15 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
Carolin Offline
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Loc: Oslo, Norway
Aiken's Artifact
Alone in the Dark - The New Nightmare
American Mcgee's Alice
Blood Rayne
Cold Fear
Da Vinci Code
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
Max Payne
Morrowind
No one lives forever 2
Oblivion
Vampire the masquerade - Bloodlines

Caroline.
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#526198 - 07/21/09 11:26 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Carolin]
Debra Offline
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Loc: Central Texas
Here's mine:
Baldur's Gate SOA
Diablo 2
Dungeon Seige
Dungeon Siege 2
Fallout 2 (haven't got 3 yet faux pas I know)
Icewind Dale
Might and Magic 6
Morrowind
Neverwinter Nights
Oblivion
Planescape Torment
Realms of the Haunting
The Witcher
World of Warcraft (alternative Divine Divinity if no MMORPG's)


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/21/09 06:05 PM)
Edit Reason: Edited to place in alphabetic order
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#526930 - 07/22/09 09:21 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Trail_Mystic]
Barb Offline
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Loc: Leavenworth, KS
Bioshock
Clive Barker's Undying
Dark Messiah Might & Magic
Gothic 1
Gothic 2
Might and Magic 6
Might and Magic 7
Oblivion
Quest for Glory 4
Silent Hill 2
Silent Hill 3
Vampire the Masquerade -Bloodlines
Vampire the Masquerade-Redemption



Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/22/09 11:21 PM)
Edit Reason: Removed numbering and placed in alphabetic order
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#526955 - 07/22/09 11:11 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Barb]
SharonB Offline
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Registered: 01/23/09
Posts: 934
Loc: Delaware, USA
Here's my list:

Anachronox
Lands of Lore 3
Morrowind
The Witcher


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/22/09 11:24 PM)
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#526958 - 07/22/09 11:34 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: SharonB]
drachehexe Offline
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Registered: 07/20/09
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Loc: Florida
Alone in the Dark 2
American McGee's Alice
Bioshock
Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver
Portal
Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time
Rainbow Six: Vegas
Resident Evil 4
Shadowman
Silent Hill 2
Tie-Fighter
The Witcher
Vampire the Masquerade: Bloodlines
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#527423 - 07/24/09 02:51 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: drachehexe]
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Well, not as many Fallout 3s as I would have thought so far.
Keep them coming - we are half way through
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#527472 - 07/24/09 06:59 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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What's the cut-off date flotsam?
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#527909 - 07/25/09 04:14 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Trail_Mystic]
anne2 Offline
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Well, as I haven't been playing RPGs for very long my list is short, but oooh they are such fun and these are favourites.

Gothic
Gothic 2 NOTR
Gothic 3
Harry Potter & the Order of the Phoenix
Oblivion
The Witcher
The Witcher Enhanced


Thanks for doing the lists again flotsam

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#528275 - 07/26/09 01:36 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: anne2]
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Here's my list

Bloodrayne
Dungeon Keeper
F.E.A.R
Heroes of Might and Magic III
Hexen II
Knights of the Old Republic
Knights of the Old Republic II
Marathon II: Durandal
Might & Magic 7
Might & Magic 8
Might & Magic 9
Morrowind
Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/26/09 10:37 PM)
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#528356 - 07/26/09 09:44 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Smiley456]
mcc Offline
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My list includes 2 PS3 only games (#6 and #8)

Dead Space
Fallout 3
F.E.A.R.
Mass Effect
Resident Evil
Resistance 2 (PS3)
Uncharted (PS3)
Witcher


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/27/09 08:24 AM)
Edit Reason: re-alphabetized
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#528431 - 07/26/09 02:27 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: mcc]
nickie Offline
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Posts: 13453
Loc: Texas
Beyond Divinity
Divine Divinity
Dragonriders of Pern
Dungeon Siege 2
Ghost Master
Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition (aka Kult)
Indigo Prophecy (aka Fahrenheit)
Might and Magic VI
Morrowind
Quest for Glory 4
Sacred Plus
Witcher
Zanzarah


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/26/09 04:11 PM)
Edit Reason: alpha flip to ascending order
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#528460 - 07/26/09 04:10 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: nickie]
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American McGees Alice
Beyond Divinity
Bioshock
Clive Barkers Undying
Diablo II
Divine Divinity
Drakan: Order of the Flame
Fable
FEAR Perseus Mandate
Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition
Prey
Sacred Plus
Zanzarah

Ana wave
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#528463 - 07/26/09 04:15 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
Pokey Offline
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Registered: 06/01/99
Posts: 5498
Loc: California
Anachronox
Bioshock
Deus Ex
Fallout
Gothic 2
Half Life 2
ICO
Mafia
Planescape Torment
Portal
System Shock 2
The Witcher
Thief


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/26/09 04:35 PM)
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#528465 - 07/26/09 04:25 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: BrownEyedTigre]
Shadow Offline
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Assassins Creed
Battlefield 2
Battlefield Bad Company
Conkers Live and Reloaded
Diablo II
Far Cry 2
Forza 2
Grand THeft Auto : San Andreas
Halo 2
Halo 3
Oblivion
Rock Band 2
Saints Row 2

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#528472 - 07/26/09 04:42 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Shadow]
katharine Offline
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Posts: 25
I haven't played a whole lot of Darkside games but these are the ones I would recommend to others. Kay

Deus Ex
Fallout 1
Fallout 2
Fallout 3
Mafia
Morrowind
No One Lives Forever
System Shock 2
Thief 1
Thief 2: The Mechanical Age
Thief 3: Deadly Shadows


Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/26/09 10:38 PM)
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#528552 - 07/26/09 09:18 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: katharine]
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Posts: 30026
Loc: Mead, Oklahoma
Hey everyubody. wave

I don't do RPGs, but here is my shooter list. thumbsup

American McGee's Alice
Bioshock
Brothers In Arms Earned In Blood
Brothers In Arms Road to Hill 30
Call of Duty 4
Crysis
FEAR
DOOM 3
FEAR 2 Project Origin
FEAR Perseus Mandate
Half Life 2
Medal of Honor Allied Assault
Prey


joe



Edited by Trail_Mystic (07/26/09 10:40 PM)
Edit Reason: Placed in alphabetic order
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#528582 - 07/26/09 10:52 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: gymcandy1]
looney Offline
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Hey Flotsam, can I give up one of those seven slots for the Witcher and add

Beyond Good And Evil

??
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#528598 - 07/27/09 02:28 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: looney]
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American McGee's Alice
Darkened Skye
Divine Divinity
Drakan
Heretic II
Might and Magic VI
Might and Magic VII
Oblivion
Outcast
Tomb Raider I
Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation
Witcher
Zanzarah


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#528671 - 07/27/09 07:15 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Jenny100]
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Baldur's Gate 1
Baldur's Gate 2
Divine Divinity
Fallout 3
Gothic 1
Gothic 2
Gothic 3
Morrowind
Morrowind: Bloodmoon
Morrowind: Tribunal
Oblivion
Sacred 2
Two Worlds


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#528913 - 07/27/09 05:52 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Rowan]
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Hi all and thanks trailmystic for the assistance.
Only a few days to go - cutoff is this weekend, so get listing.
Some clarification.
Having consulted those far more erudite than me on matters dark, Witcher and Witcher Enhanced will be treated as one game, and votes for Morrowind GOTY will have to be redone. As we count expansion packs as seperate games, and this is really a packaging of the original plus two expansions, for the purpose of our list it is technically 3 games.
I will amend the first post and contact the couple of people who voted for GOTY.
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#528923 - 07/27/09 06:16 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Well here I go again. I strongly disagree even though I'm outnumbered. hardwall Morrowind GOTY has the complete Morrowind with the added chapters but it's still Morrowind. If you buy the expansions separately you still have Morrowind. You can't have the expansions without Morrowind so it is just an extension of the same game. In fact when you start the game with either Tribunal or Bloodmooned installed you are taken to the Morrowind launcher and you cannot go directly to either expansion you are started in Morrowind and you have to work to get to either expansion, so I still contest that they are all part of one game.

If that's the case then Sacred Gold should be treated the same way since it includes Underworld, which is an expansion. Witcher enhanced also includes two new adventures and with the latest patch includes 6 new adventures.

My point is that if you need the basic game to play anything then they should all be included in the basic game.

But what do I know I'm just old and had a bad day. devil You make the rules and I'll follow. praise
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#528938 - 07/27/09 06:43 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: oldman]
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Originally Posted By: oldman


My point is that if you need the basic game to play anything then they should all be included in the basic game.


I totally agree.
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#528969 - 07/27/09 08:47 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Your point about Sacred Gold is right-on oldman and Sacred and Sacred Underworld should be listed individually, which is what we have done in past lists. The same goes for Morrowind, and similar games with formal, separately marketed expansions. Everyone has an opinion and while we can respect all, we can not necessarily please everyone so, as in the past the rules stand.
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#528975 - 07/27/09 09:00 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: drachehexe]
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Here's my list. Some old ones and a few turn-based strategy games..

Divine Divinity
Diablo 1
Disciples 2 Gold
Heroes of Might & Magic 4
Heroes of Might & Magic 5
Neverwinter Nights 1
Neverwinter Nights 1: Hordes of the Underdark
Tomb Raider 1
Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation

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#529006 - 07/27/09 11:14 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: EdA]
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Bloodrayne
Condemned Criminal Origins
Drakensang The Dark Eye
Dark Messiah Might and Magic
Dungeon Seige II
Fable The Lost Chapters
Gothic
Gunman Chronicles
Hellgate London
Legendary
Morrowind
Sacred Underworld
Witcher
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#530559 - 07/31/09 03:35 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: kazzmo]
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The countdown begins.
I have started the compilation, made all the more interesting by games I have never heard of. Some I just had to check out - Plants v Zombies to start with.
I will post results tomorrow night - thats in about 36 hours from now.
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#530673 - 07/31/09 09:31 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Thank you flotsam !!!! praise
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#530743 - 08/01/09 02:14 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Mad]
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Hope I'm not too late. blush Here's my list, tho having a 5 year old puter there is not many newer games on it.

Chronicles of Riddick
Doom 3
Draken
King Kong
Max Payne 1
No One Lives Forever
Outcast
Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
Silent Hill 2
Stalker: Shadow of Chernobyl
Thief 1
Wheel of Time

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#531103 - 08/02/09 03:30 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Sassy]
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Hi all,
Here it is. Some surprises perhaps, but not in the winner. Two for two now, and a clear first place.
Vampire Bloodlines was probably the biggest mover, and Morrowind came back to topple Oblivion.
Thansk to everyone that participated, and thanks too for accepting the rules. Happy to revisit for next year and tweak where required.
All errors are mine, for which I apologise in advance.
Two lists follow, one numeric, and one alphabetic.
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#531104 - 08/02/09 03:31 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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20 The Witcher
15 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
14 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
10 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines
9 Bioshock
9 Divine Divinity
7 Planescape Torment
6 American Magee’s Alice
6 Fallout 3
6 Gothic
6 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
5 F.E.A.R.
5 Gothic 2
5 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven
5 Neverwinter Nights
4 Baldur’s Gate 2
4 Bloodrayne
4 Deus Ex
4 Drakan: Order of the Flame
4 Dungeon Seige 2
4 Fable: The Lost Chapters
4 Mass Effect
4 No One Lives Forever
4 S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
4 Zanzarah
3 Baldur’s Gate
3 Clive Barker’s Undying
3 Diablo 2
3 Elder Scrolls 3: Tribunal
3 Fallout
3 Half Life 2
3 Halo: Combat Evolved
3 Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour
3 Outcast
3 Portal
3 Sacred/Sacred Plus
3 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: Sith Lords
3 Thief: The Dark Project/Thief Gold

2 Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare, Anachronox, Assassins Creed, Beyond Divinity, Crysis, Dark Eye: Drakensang, Dark Messiah of Might and Magic, Doom 3, Dungeon Siege, Elder Scrolls 3: Blood Moon, Fallout 2, F.E.A.R: Perseus Mandate, Gothic 2: Night of the Raven, Gothic 3, Heroes of Might and Magic 3, Heroes of Might and Magic 5, Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms, 2 Ico, Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit, Jade Empire, Mafia, Max Payne, Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark, Prey, Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness, Realms of the Haunting, Resident Evil 4, Sacred 2: Fallen Angel, Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams, System Shock 2, Thief 3: Deadly Shadows, Titan Quest, Titan Quest: Immortal Throne, Tomb Raider, Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation, Two Worlds, Uncharted: Drakes Fortune, Wheel of Time

1 Advent Rising, Age of Mythology, Aikens Artifact, Alone in the Dark 2, Atlantis 3, Arx Fatalis, Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn, Battlefield 2, Battlefield: Bad Company, Betrayal at Antara, Betrayal at Krondor, Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood, Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30, Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare, Chosen: Well of Souls, Chronicles of Riddick, Civilization IV, Cold Fear, Condemned: Criminal Origins, Conkers Live and Reloaded, Curse of Isis, Darkened Skye, Dead Space, Diablo, Disciples 2: Dark Prophecy, Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern, Dungeon Keeper, Far Cry 2, F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin, Forza Motorsport 2, Gears of War 2, Ghost Master, Godfather 2, God of War 2, God of War: Chains of Olympus, Grandia, Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas, Gun, Gunman Chronicles, Half Life, Halo 2, Halo 3, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix, Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban, Hellgate London, Heroes of Might and Magic 2, Heroes of Might and Magic 4, Heretic 2, Hexen 2, Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine, Icewind Dale, King Kong, Lands of Lore 3, Left for Dead, Legendary, Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver, Loki: Heroes of Mythology, Lost Odyssey, Marathon 2: Durandal, Marvel Ultimate Alliance, Mechwarrier 3, Medal of Honour: Allied Assault, Medal of Honour: Airborne, Metroid Prime, Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer, Might and Magic 9, Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer, No One Lives Forever 2, Okami, Perfect Dark, Plants vs Zombies, Pool of Radiance, Prince of Persia: Sands of Time, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Psychonauts, Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords, Quest for Glory 5: Dragon Fire, Rainbow 6: Vegas, Ratatouille, Resident Evil, Resistance 2, Return to Krondor, Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends, Rock Band 2, Sacred: Underworld, Saints Row 2, Shadowman, Silent Hill 3, Silent Hill: Origins, Sniper Elite, Space Quest, Splinter Cell: Essentials, Star Wars: Republic Commando, Suikoden, SWAT 4: The Stetchkov Syndicate, Team Fortress 2, Thief 2: The Metal Age, Tie Fighter, Tomb Raider 2, Tomb Raider: Underworld, Vampire Masquerade: Redemption, Velvet Assassin, Wing Commander: Privateer, World of Warcraft, X Men Origins: Wolverine, X Wing
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#531105 - 08/02/09 03:31 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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1 Advent Rising
1 Age of Mythology
1 Aikens Artifact
1 Alone in the Dark 2
2 Alone in the Dark 4: A New Nightmare
6 American Magee’s Alice
2 Anachronox
2 Assassins Creed
1 Atlantis 3
1 Arx Fatalis
3 Baldur’s Gate
4 Baldur’s Gate 2
1 Baldur’s Gate 2: Shadows of Amn
1 Battlefield 2
1 Battlefield: Bad Company
1 Betrayal at Antara
1 Betrayal at Krondor
2 Beyond Divinity
9 Bioshock
4 Bloodrayne
1 Brothers in Arms: Earned in Blood
1 Brothers in Arms: Road to Hill 30
1 Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare
1 Chosen: Well of Souls
1 Chronicles of Riddick
1 Civilization IV
3 Clive Barker’s Undying
1 Cold Fear
1 Condemned: Criminal Origins
1 Conkers Live and Reloaded
2 Crysis
1 Curse of Isis
2 Dark Eye: Drakensang
2 Dark Messiah of Might and Magic
1 Darkened Skye
1 Dead Space
4 Deus Ex
1 Diablo
3 Diablo 2
1 Disciples 2: Dark Prophecy
9 Divine Divinity
2 Doom 3
1 Dragon Riders: Chronicles of Pern
4 Drakan: Order of the Flame
1 Dungeon Keeper
2 Dungeon Siege
4 Dungeon Seige 2
2 Elder Scrolls 3: Blood Moon
15 Elder Scrolls 3: Morrowind
3 Elder Scrolls 3: Tribunal
14 Elder Scrolls 4: Oblivion
4 Fable: The Lost Chapters
3 Fallout
2 Fallout 2
6 Fallout 3
1 Far Cry 2
5 F.E.A.R.
2 F.E.A.R: Perseus Mandate
1 F.E.A.R. 2: Project Origin
1 Forza Motorsport 2
1 Gears of War 2
1 Ghost Master
1 Godfather 2
1 God of War 2
1 God of War: Chains of Olympus
6 Gothic
5 Gothic 2
2 Gothic 2: Night of the Raven
2 Gothic 3
1 Grandia
1 Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas
1 Gun
1 Gunman Chronicles
1 Half Life
3 Half Life 2
3 Halo: Combat Evolved
1 Halo 2
1 Halo 3
1 Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix
1 Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban
1 Hellgate London
1 Heroes of Might and Magic 2
2 Heroes of Might and Magic 3
1 Heroes of Might and Magic 4
2 Heroes of Might and Magic 5
2 Heretic Kingdoms: The Inquisition/Kult: Heretic Kingdoms
1 Heretic 2
1 Hexen 2
2 Ico
1 Indiana Jones and the Infernal Machine
2 Indigo Prophecy/Fahrenheit
1 Icewind Dale
2 Jade Empire
1 King Kong
1 Lands of Lore 3
1 Left for Dead
1 Legendary
1 Legend of Kain: Soul Reaver
1 Loki: Heroes of Mythology
1 Lost Odyssey
2 Mafia
1 Marathon 2: Durandal
1 Marvel Ultimate Alliance
4 Mass Effect
2 Max Payne
1 Mechwarrier 3
1 Medal of Honour: Allied Assault
1 Medal of Honour: Airborne
1 Metroid Prime
5 Might and Magic 6: The Mandate of Heaven
3 Might and Magic 7: For Blood and Honour
1 Might and Magic 8: Day of the Destroyer
1 Might and Magic 9
5 Neverwinter Nights
2 Neverwinter Nights: Hordes of the Underdark
1 Neverwinter Nights 2: Mask of the Betrayer
4 No One Lives Forever
1 No One Lives Forever 2
1 Okami
3 Outcast
1 Perfect Dark
7 Planescape Torment
1 Plants vs Zombies
1 Pool of Radiance
3 Portal
2 Prey
1 Prince of Persia: Sands of Time
1 Prince of Persia: Warrior Within
1 Psychonauts
1 Puzzle Quest: Challenge of the Warlords
Quest for Glory 1: So You Want to Be a Hero
2 Quest for Glory 4: Shadows of Darkness
1 Quest for Glory 5: Dragon Fire
1 Rainbow 6: Vegas
1 Ratatouille
2 Realms of the Haunting
1 Resident Evil
2 Resident Evil 4
1 Resistance 2
1 Return to Krondor
1 Rise of Nations: Rise of Legends
1 Rock Band 2
3 Sacred/Sacred Plus
1 Sacred: Underworld
2 Sacred 2: Fallen Angel
1 Saints Row 2
1 Shadowman
2 Silent Hill 2: Restless Dreams
1 Silent Hill 3
1 Silent Hill: Origins
1 Sniper Elite
1 Space Quest
1 Splinter Cell: Essentials
4 S.T.A.L.K.E.R: Shadow of Chernobyl
6 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic
3 Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic 2: Sith Lords
1 Star Wars: Republic Commando
1 Suikoden
1 SWAT 4: The Stetchkov Syndicate
2 System Shock 2
1 Team Fortress 2
3 Thief: The Dark Project/Thief Gold
1 Thief 2: The Metal Age
2 Thief 3: Deadly Shadows
1 Tie Fighter
2 Titan Quest
2 Titan Quest: Immortal Throne
2 Tomb Raider
1 Tomb Raider 2
2 Tomb Raider: The Last Revelation
1 Tomb Raider: Underworld
2 Two Worlds
2 Uncharted: Drakes Fortune
1 Vampire Masquerade: Redemption
10 Vampire Masquerade: Bloodlines
1 Velvet Assassin
2 Wheel of Time
1 Wing Commander: Privateer
1 World of Warcraft
20 Witcher, The
1 X Men Origins: Wolverine
1 X Wing
4 Zanzarah
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#531143 - 08/02/09 06:53 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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praise and thanks flotsam!

You are much appreciated.

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#531156 - 08/02/09 08:16 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: MaG]
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Thanks flotsam! Awesome job as always! bravo

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#531228 - 08/02/09 11:26 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Great job flotsam! Thanks again for all your work! bravo
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#531414 - 08/02/09 10:01 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Trail_Mystic]
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Wonderful as usual, flotsam !! bravo

Thanks very much grin
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#531433 - 08/03/09 01:03 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: Mad]
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Very excellent Flotsam ... thank you! bravo

This makes me want to go play The Witcher again! lol
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#531443 - 08/03/09 03:40 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: looney]
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Me too Looney thumbsup
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#531460 - 08/03/09 05:25 AM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Thanks for all the hard work flotsam.
Nice to see a recent game make the top.

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#531749 - 08/03/09 06:49 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: anne2]
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Thanks so much Flotsam! I'm not surprised about the number one, but am surprised that DD slipped so much.
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#531813 - 08/03/09 10:52 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: nickie]
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Oh, phooey, I missed the list this year. No matter, my picks would have been pretty much the same as they are every year. I don't get out much.

Great job. I'm glad to see Deus Ex still making the cut, even without me. Witcher sure cleaned up.
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#532007 - 08/04/09 01:43 PM Re: Dark Side list 2009 [Re: flotsam]
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Thank you, flotsam thumbsup for all your hard work bravo

I'm surprised that The Witcher made it to the first place this year. Yet, it is still a very good game.
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